Thanks for the response, Air. My husband is in recovery, 12 step programs for 5 years. Therapy all that time too. The only emotional involvement in his acting out is his hand and that is bad enough.

I have seen a lot of change in the past 5 years (mostly the last 3 of sex addiction 12 step) but it is VERY disappointing none the less that the shame and the addict is still so prevelant in his dealings of life.

I will send you a pm.