no hard feelings - and i appreciate your attempt to urge us to see things from another point of view. now you know what we are dealing with - another whole layer of distorted thinking and feelings with very strong guilt stresses - as if we didn't have enuf of that already!

Lee
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We are often troubled, but not crushed;
sometimes in doubt, but never in despair;
there are many enemies, but we are never without a friend;
and though badly hurt at times, we are not destroyed.
- Paul, II Cor 4:8-9