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#177738 - 09/01/07 11:13 PM Re: Question for Christian Survivors [Re: BJK]
MarkK Offline
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Registered: 04/02/07
Posts: 2502
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: BJK
What does faith do?


It saves me
It gives me strength for the day
It gives me hope
It can supply great joy
It means peace in a nonpeaceful world

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#177739 - 09/01/07 11:31 PM Re: Question for Christian Survivors [Re: BJK]
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Registered: 08/30/05
Posts: 16264
Awesome discussion guys. All of you involved in this. I've read through the recent discussion with interest. Every one of you brings valid points, questions, and heart pleas to the table. Thanks for your candor and honesty. It was a good read and I've learned from it.

John

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#355695 - 03/06/11 02:16 AM Re: Question for Christian Survivors [Re: Still]
looking2heal Offline
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Registered: 06/15/10
Posts: 100
Loc: pa
ive only read a few so not sure if anyone has said but....TRIGGER WARNING...
everyone says God didnt let it happen.....God let Jesus go to the cross....
God let satan test Job....
where is it that it says that everythings going to be all great?
when reading the bible every single person....went thru their own hell....
im not going to stand here and blame God...but also not going to agree with God didnt let it happened....the bible says that God will not put you thru more then you can handle...
...IMHO....
that being said....i long for that which ppl talk about....that everything just change...that peace came and they understood and excepted ....
i do that which i dont want....
and i dont do what i want
i dont blame God....just want him to help me....
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hope not off base , just how i see it



Edited by looking2heal (03/06/11 02:17 AM)
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#355760 - 03/07/11 12:21 AM Re: Question for Christian Survivors [Re: looking2heal]
pufferfish Offline
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Registered: 02/26/08
Posts: 6867
Loc: USA
This is not an easy question. I have about a dozen books on this written by some really good Christian writers. This just underscores that a lot of us human beings wonder about this and even feel it deeply. Sorry I'm behind in my reading but this topic does need attention.

Allen


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#430874 - 04/11/13 11:33 AM Re: Question for Christian Survivors [Re: Brokenhearted]
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Registered: 03/13/13
Posts: 22
Loc: Texas
God looks on the heart of a person first. I beleive that he knows us well and takes in to consideration, the things that we go though which reroute or affect his original design for our lives. God is not in a box and neither are we. In my particular situation, I suffered spiritual abuse in a dogmatic church environment after having been severely sexually abused. Through it all I held on to the fact that none of this was God's fault and never assigned that spiritual abuse to him. I recognized that this is a fallen world that we live in. Things will tend to go to the lowest form and denominator. It is God who pulls us up and out. Always remember that he looks at what is inside of us, not just outward appearance.

Please, never fail to pray and do not give up on what it can do. I have prayed for people for years and in almost every case have eventually seen them answered. There are also times when the answers come in ways that we just can't recognize because we are often looking for another answer from him.

In my situation holding to him has been crucial. Through All the abuse and 2 abductions, I have no personality disorders and live a well adjusted life, all things considered. I truly beleive that God can do this for anyone and is willing to as well. We have to partner with him. Part of being on this earth is that we have to take responsibility for ourselves, even after any kind of abuse.
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If someone throws trash on my lawn and drives away, it is mine to deal with. I make the decision whether to collect it or take responsibility for cleaning it up. We are the sum of our choices. For some, these were thrust upon us at an age when we were not qualified to take such resposibility. R.J.

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#432563 - 04/26/13 06:59 PM Re: Question for Christian Survivors [Re: Brokenhearted]
victor-victim Offline


Registered: 09/27/03
Posts: 3342
Loc: O Kanada
this may sound like preaching, but for me (decades of surviving SA) the only way i could put the "empty words" into practice, was through sincere daily PRAYER, BIBLE study, and deep HONEST conversations with GOD, myself, and people i considered to be true christians (NOT FAKE CHRISTIANS LIKE MY ABUSERS).

This was not easy and took many many years, but it works.

i have chosen to be blunt and up-front because i would rather be rejected for who i am, than accepted for what i am not.
this led me to the "REAL" christians. believe when I tell you... they are out there. KEEP SEARCHING, READING THE BIBLE, and PRAY EVERY DAY for wisdom and strength.

avoid drugs, porno, and sex with strangers. they only make the situation worse, in my personal experience. don't abandon hope if you fail or fall. repent and start over as many times as it takes. never quit, you are worth the effort.

hope this helps.
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