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#85779 - 06/08/04 12:12 PM Judge Charged in the U.K.
Mark S Offline
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The following was taken from British television.

"A recently retired circuit Judge, David Selwood has been charged with making and possessing child pornography.

Sellwood who retired from Portsmouth Crown Court last week is charged with 12 counts of making indecent images and 1 of possessing an indecent photo.

The 69 yeay old of Winchester who retired on health grounds was bailed to appear before Bow Street Magistrates Court London on June 16th"



I wonder if the health grounds mentioned refer to the fact that if guilty this is one sick individual?

What chance do we have of ever getting justice when the Judges are as sick as the defendants??!!!!!

Sorry for venting but this just makes me so mad!

Mark S


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#85780 - 06/18/04 08:35 PM Re: Judge Charged in the U.K.
Lloydy Offline
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The sad thing is, because he's a judge he knew how to work the system and what to plead.
I can't remember what the sentence was, but it was a joke !

Dave

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#85781 - 06/27/04 12:38 PM Re: Judge Charged in the U.K.
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Registered: 06/27/04
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Quote:
Originally posted by Lloydy:
The sad thing is, because he's a judge he knew how to work the system and what to plead.
I can't remember what the sentence was, but it was a joke !

Dave
With respect (to use a judicial expression!), the man has not been sentenced yet, but he is due to be next month.

I do not think there is any suggestion he has worked the system. On the contrary, the guidelines on the kinds of images he viewed say that he should have received a caution. But the Crown Prosecution Service took the view that it was in the public interest to prosecute him because he is the first Judge to have been so caught - and I can certainly see the logic of that.

I think it extremely likely that he will receive a short prison sentence for the same kind of reason.


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#85782 - 06/28/04 09:44 AM Re: Judge Charged in the U.K.
Mike Church Offline
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Sorry that is how I feel about this.

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#85783 - 06/28/04 09:53 AM Re: Judge Charged in the U.K.
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I agree with Mike. This f**ker shouldn't EVER breathe a shot of free air again.

Goddamn these stupid m***********s!

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Scot

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#85784 - 06/28/04 10:46 AM Re: Judge Charged in the U.K.
Archnut Offline
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Welcome to the wonderful world of UK crminal law.

It is archaic, outdated and slowly crumbling due to European precidence

Justice dont make me laugh and I have had two positive outcomes, well sort of.

I'm just hoping that one day I will get to tell my story in court. There are another three out there that I'm gunning for.

Archnut
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#85785 - 06/28/04 11:25 AM Re: Judge Charged in the U.K.
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I think this shows how widespread the problem is. It's not confined to a few bad scout leaders or some bad clergy. People will think this is an aberration, and it is, but not as they will think. I'm afraid that to a lot of people, the fact that it isn't a scout leader or priest will seem strange, as if they were the only ones who abuse. After all, "they spend more time with boys than most people."

It is an aberration because most judges aren't perps, not because perps are only from certain walks of life. Somehow it seems to me the real need is for education towards prevention, not flashy prosecutions seeking harsh sentences.

Thanks,

Joe

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#85786 - 06/28/04 07:13 PM Re: Judge Charged in the U.K.
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Quote:
Ex-Judge admits child porn charges Legal


Published: 16-Jun-2004
By: Channel 4 News


A judge who retired after his recent arrest has admitted making and possessing pornographic images of children.

David Selwood, aged 69, who stepped down as resident judge of Portsmouth Crown Court, pleaded guilty to 12 counts of making indecent photos of a child in March and April this year, and to one count of possessing indecent photographs of children.


At a hearing in London's Bow Street Magistrates Court, he also admitted one count of possessing indecent photographs of children in April.


The court heard that the case had a "devastating and humiliating" effect on the judge and his family.


Sentencing, which will take place in the same court, was adjourned for reports until July 13.


In total, Selwood admitted making or possessing 75 indecent images of children.


Standing in the small dock of Court No 2, the gray-haired former judge was asked whether he wanted to make a plea after the 13 counts were read out.


Wearing a black pin-stripe suit and glasses, Selwood said in a clear voice: "I intend to plead guilty to all of those charges."


Selwood, from Winchester, Hampshire, then sat down while the prosecution lawyer Amanda Sawertz gave details to the court of his crimes.


She said that on April 21 Selwood was in possession of 63 indecent photographs of children.


"All of the images were of boys between the ages of eight and 14," she said. "The images were obtained from various websites.


"Some of the images were thumbnail images but some had been enlarged."


The court heard that Selwood had issued a prepared statement to police, in which he maintained he had never had any sexual interest in young children.


"He gave as the reason for visiting such sites curiosity to see how easy or difficult it was for someone with limited computer skills such as himself to find such images on the internet," she said.


But, in the statement, Selwood admitted it would be difficult to describe his actions as "research".


He was quoted as saying: "I can see objectively now how foolish this may appear but there must be things going on in the subconscious mind which I need to look at."


He was not qualified to comment on such psychological issues, his statement said.


All the photographs were described as "level one" - which was understood to mean the least serious category of indecent images of children, containing nudity and semi-naked pictures rather than sexual activity.


Selwood was immediately placed on the sex offenders register and bailed to return to Bow Street Magistrates' Court for sentencing.


District Judge Timothy Workman told him: "I have no intention of committing this case to the Crown Court. In all other respects the options remain open."


Selwood, accompanied by his wife Barbara and his solicitor Richard Hallam, left the court without commenting to reporters.


Earlier this year, Selwood cleared a world authority on child abuse who pleaded guilty to downloading child pornography of having any illegal intent behind his actions.


The judge described Professor Christopher Bagley, who has written several respected pieces of research into child abuse, as "naive" for accessing the indecent images without seeking legal advice or consulting colleagues.


He ruled that Bagley had viewed the images for research purposes and not for his own sexual needs.


Because Bagley pleaded guilty to the 16 charges of making indecent images of children, but had put up a defence that he had a legitimate reason for looking at the images, as part of his work for the University of Southampton, a trial of issue was held at Portsmouth Crown Court.


The two-day hearing did not require a jury because guilt was not being determined and only a judge was required to rule on whether Bagley had any illegal intent behind his actions.


Sentencing Bagley to a three-year conditional discharge on April 2, Selwood said: "I cannot be, and I am not, satisfied that the motivation for viewing the images was self gratification and was not genuine research."


He added: "He had shown arrogance and a certain naivety which had proved fairly lethal in this case."


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#85787 - 06/29/04 09:40 AM Re: Judge Charged in the U.K.
Mike Church Offline
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I cant stop this feeling.

Thanks David.

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