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#85717 - 03/01/04 09:47 AM Dutroux (sp?) trial - Belgium
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Registered: 09/24/03
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Is it so hard to believe that authorities can be inept and uncaring?

The Marc Dutroux child murder trial starting in Belgium today proves that it isn't, but BOY, people SO want it to be! So much so in fact that they're creating a conspiracy theory where one may NOT exist.

There are enough real-life conspiracies when it comes to SA, that one disingenous one created by a murderer to keep him out of jail for good isn't necessary. But it's getting airplay.

That isn't to say that I don't believe authorities cover this crap up when it comes to getting too close to those in power. I just don't believe it's true in this case.

I just believe that the police were HORRIBLY incompetant, and little children paid the price.

*Sigh* \:\(

Scot

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#85718 - 03/02/04 07:46 PM Re: Dutroux (sp?) trial - Belgium
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Sorry Scot - I don't know what this is about? :rolleyes: Can you share some about this?

Howard

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#85719 - 03/02/04 10:12 PM Re: Dutroux (sp?) trial - Belgium
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STRONG TRIGGERS! STRONG TRIGGERS! STRONG TRIGGERS!

This animal has been out abducting, imprisoning, and raping young women and girls for years, and has been released from jail for years only to keep on raping over and over again.

He was only stopped when it was discovered that he had kidnapped a 12 year old girl and was holding her prisoner in his home. Upon further investigation, it was found out that there were two 8 years olds buried in his yard. He had abducted them and kept them prisoner. They starved to death while he was in jail (AGAIN!) on an unrelated matter.

Now, people had been reporting children missing in his neighborhood while he was alive, and other gendemerie in Belgium were aware of him, but because of competition, they never shared information that would have put him back in jail for good, or saved the two little girls.

He THEN escaped from jail by stealing an officer's gun. Thankfully, he was recaptured a few hours later.

Now, upon a national investigation, the police was blamed for this scumbag getting out and raping and killing over and over again. At least the court case looks open-and-shut, but HE is using a pretty novel defence - he was allowed to go free because the police knew he knew about some pretty high ranking govt. officials engaged in pedophelia, and that his information led right up to the castle, to the house of Orange itself.

Considering the large amounts of pedophelia discovered during a recent kiddie porn investigation that went through Europe, it's easy to belive his claims. I however, find it's much easier to blame shoddy police work.

*sigh*

Depressing.

Scot

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#85720 - 03/03/04 02:39 PM Re: Dutroux (sp?) trial - Belgium
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Maybe we could write? At least then some people would know that we watch. Scot, do you have any sources for official information on the case?

The Embassy of Belgium in the United States is online at http://www.diplobel.us/

Mr. Frans van Daele
Ambassador
Tel: (202) 625-5801
Fax: (202) 625-7567

Embassy of Belgium
3330 Garfield Street NW
Washington, DC 20008


The Embassy of Belgium in Canada is online at
http://www.diplobel.org/canada/

Mr. Daniel Leroy
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Embassy of Belgium
360 Albert Street, 8th floor
Suite 820
Ottawa, Ontario K1R 7X7
Tel : (613) 236-7267
Fax : (613) 236-7882
E-mail: Ottawa@diplobel.org

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The Embassy of Belgium in the United Kingdom is online at
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Belgium Embassy
103 Eaton Square, London SW1W 9AB.
Tel: 020 74703700 Fax: 020 74703795
London@diplobel.org


Thanks,

Joe

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#85721 - 03/12/04 06:44 PM Re: Dutroux (sp?) trial - Belgium
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Being in France I have had the opportunity to follow this case.
I strongly believe that there were high ranking cover up in that matter ! It is not a new defense ! Policemen in Belgium at lowerlevel has testified about the cover up, some are scared to talk.
A few elements to this case:

- 3 different judges followed Dutroux.The one who discovered a pedophilia network got dismissed ! He was replaced by a young judge who was leading his FIRST case ! For such an important case, they got him ! And the very first thing he said was :"I believed Dutroux acted on his own ! "
- bits of hair of 20 different people were found in the prison Dutroux had built in his house (a basement room with no windows of 2meters x 2meters, blocked by a thick wall of concrete, were he kept the little girls as long as 6 months !)
The judge REFUSED to have then analysed !!!
- A pervert/pedophile acts usually alone, driven by a fantasy, a "pulsion" and does not keep his victims on a long period of time. In the Dutroux case, he was helped by his wife, a young guy and another more important "businessman" who is accused of being "the link" with the network.
- A criminal like Dutroux managed to escape from prison !!!! The most wanted man in Belgium escaped from prison ! I mean there is something very fishy here !!!
- When they searched the house for the first time, looking for the girls, the police had no instrument of search not even a dog ! In those cases this is the usual procedure ! In consequence, the police stood outside the door of the concrete cell and left. The two little girls inside died. They were starved and drugged and buried alive in the garden.
I just want to SCREAM !!!!!!

Most of the victims' parents do not want to participate in the trial because the KNOW the truth is being covered up !
A good friend of mine lives in Arlon (where the trial is being held). One of his friend, a "gendarme" told him :
"If only 10 % of the truth came out in the Dutroux case, it would mean a violent revolution in Belgium and complete chaos"

I know in France that pedophilia networks exist. Last year a judge was arrested (member of a justice commission against pedophiles !!!!). A major assistant to the mayor of Neuilly (rich town in the suburb of Paris) got arrested too. At the moment a mayor of another town and his assistant are being judged....
boy, I think you have NO idea of the scale of the problem over here !

On inceste.org, we have Belgium members who have been forwarded the message of the victims and their parents asking for support; They asked people to wear a white ruban (like the aid one) and to attach a white ruban on your car.
I think it is a very good idea to send messages to the consulate and embassies. They will forward them to Arlon.
My thoughts are with them. I hear about the trial every day in France !
I will keep you informed.

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