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#84951 - 01/13/07 03:30 AM Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Two Missing Boys Found Alive in Mo. Home
January 12, 2007 8:39 PM EST
BEAUFORT, Mo. - A 13-year-old boy who vanished from the gravel road near his home five days ago was found alive about 60 miles away in a suburban St. Louis home, along with a 15-year-old boy missing since 2002, authorities said Friday.

The boys were found in a Kirkwood home belonging to Michael Devlin, 41, who has been charged with one count of first-degree kidnapping, Sheriff Gary Toelke said.

The sheriff said both boys appeared unharmed. William Ownby, who goes by Ben, appeared somewhat dazed as he walked inside the sheriff's department, where he was reunited with his family Friday night.

The straight-A student and Boy Scout was last seen after he stepped off his school bus and ran toward his home down a gravel road on Monday.

A friend who left the bus with the boy told authorities that after the two parted, he saw a small white pickup with a camper shell speeding away from where Ben had been walking.

Searchers on foot, horseback and all-terrain vehicles looked for Ben in the hilly area about 60 miles southwest of St. Louis.

Toelke said the break in the case came Thursday night. Kirkwood city police officers were serving a warrant on an apartment complex when they noticed a white truck matching the de>
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#84952 - 01/13/07 03:44 AM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Simply stunning. A great outcome but there are so many questions.

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#84953 - 01/13/07 03:35 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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What a story, I am so glad for those parents who never gave up, and all those who helped.
God knows how many other kids go missing the same way, maybe never to be found,

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#84954 - 01/13/07 04:08 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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It is so amazing. I was glued to the TV during the news conference as Shawn Hornbeck (the one missing for years) and his mom and step-dad, who started a foundation in his name four years ago, just kept pinching themselves to make sure they weren't dreaming.

"He looks fine" seems to be the consensus but his step-dad knows enough not to assume anything. I hope, that with all the public awareness his kidnapping generated (rekindled last week when the other fellow went missing), that the best of follow-up treatment will be available to these boys.

May their recovery begin now.

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#84955 - 01/13/07 05:05 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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"Miracles DO Happen"

Missing boy's parents hail Missouri miracle

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ST. LOUIS, Missouri (CNN) -- "We're glad to have him home," said Pam Akers, choking back tears Saturday, one day after her 15-year-old son Shawn Hornbeck was found alive four years after he disappeared.

"This is one, of those rare rare things. To have one missing child found is just extraordinary," said the boy's stepfather, Craig Akers. "To have two found at the same time is one of those things -- you don't even read about things like that."

The two were speaking at a news conference Saturday after the discovery of Shawn and another missing boy, William Ben Ownby, 13, in a St. Louis, Missouri-area apartment -- a discovery that brought joy to families and police alike.

"It's been like a dream. We're so fortunate. This is a prime example of why I've told everyone in this situation not to give up hope," Craig Akers told reporters as he teared up. He spoke in a room decorated with balloons and posters that read "Miracles do Happen."

Shawn was last seen riding his bike to a friend's house in October 2002.

William had been missing since Monday, when he was last seen getting off his school bus in Franklin County, near St. Louis.

A suspect, 41-year-old Michael J. Devlin, was arrested and has been charged with one count of first-degree kidnapping, said Franklin County Prosecutor Robert Parks.

Devlin was being held on $1 million bail, and more charges are likely, Parks said.

Investigators were elated by the break in the case.

"We have some good news, and we have some probably unbelievable news," Franklin County Sheriff Gary Toelke began Friday in a news conference intended to update reporters on the search for William, AP reported.

The break came, thanks to a rusty white Nissan pickup truck that matched the de>
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#84956 - 01/13/07 06:02 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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My b/f and I were glued to CNN all morning with lots of tears being shed. I am so happy for those 2 boys and their families. Lord knows there is a long, long road ahead, but they're on it now. The boys are safe which today is the most important thing of all.

I'm sad for what they've been through and what they will have to go through but for today, I'll smile because they were found. Sometimes, life works out.

ROCK ON........Trish

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#84957 - 01/13/07 09:49 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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This story even made prime time news in the Uk.
I hope I am wrong, but the motive may have been sexual, the reason I state this, is because maybe the older guy was getting too old and he needed younger blood.

It gets me how neighbors never sensed something wrong!
Its also amazing how they can control kids this way without them fleeing home.

I too was overjoyed at the parents finding their son alive when they thought the state trooper was pulling them over to give them bad news.

I guess God really is there, and he made their dreams come true.
I was overwhelmed by it, just as they were, and just hope there is joy and happiness in this story.

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#84958 - 01/13/07 11:47 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Ste,

I'm afraid you're probably right; some of the news people are already speculating on it, but I wish they wouldn't. I would imagine that the families of the boys will do their best to keep them from the news, but it's only human nature to want to know what people are saying about you.

My b/f and I were discussing just a little while ago whether or not it was a good idea to have both boys present at the respective press conferences given by their families. He had one opinion and I had another. We talked and we can each see the pros and cons of the decision.

My opinion was that it was the right thing to do and I'll tell you why. This story is huge. Ste as you said it even made it across the pond. The media was thanked profusely for their aid in trying to find both boys, even though no one expected them to be found together. The media is always ravenous for information and, most times, will stop at nothing to get it. By bringing the boys out now, while they were still caught up in the whirlwind of being found, being reunited with their families, interviews with law enforcement, etc., I think that a press conference was just one more thing on the list of incredibly out of the ordinary things going on right now. It's out of the way. The media has been asked to now back off and leave the families alone. I believe that because they have seen the boys, talked to their parents and will continue to receive what law enforcement chooses to tell them, they will adhere to the families' request and leave them alone, until the trial, if there is one.

I'm curious to know what you guys think.

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#84959 - 01/14/07 01:41 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Trish, I for one think its wrong to put them before the cameras.
Those boys will have a hard time without the public glaring at them.

The older boy is going to go through the worst of it, as he is nearer adulthood.
I do hope adequate help is at hand and the families get enough compensation.

He will be over protected by his parents which is sad.
Normal teenagers are a pain without all this going on as well.

I am only seeing it from my own view, and I guess the nightmare is only just beginning.
I hope that I am totally wrong,

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#84960 - 01/14/07 08:51 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Ste,

I totally hear what you are saying and that was my initial reaction and certainly what my b/f felt. But at some point, the news people would have been all but beating down the doors and making life even more difficult for the boys and their families. It's wrong - I know everyone here feels that - but it's a fact of today's life that can't be escaped.

I really believe that it was better to do it immediately, while the boys were probably still in a bit of shock from all of the events surrounding their rescue.

From everything I'm hearing in the news, help certainly is at hand for the boys. The family of the older one is probably more aware of what needs to be done for their son because of the people and professional organizations that have helped and supported them for the 4 years that he was gone.

I'm not a prayer, but everything I've got is going to those kids.

ROCK ON......Trish

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#84961 - 01/14/07 09:10 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Trish, your bf would tell you the kids would be mortified if they are victims of abuse.
If that happened to me as a kid, I would be too ashamed to go out, never mind going to school.

I would put a time frame of months before interviewing them, and only with trained professionals linked to trauma.

I know only too well how hard it was for me to mask out what happened, but with full media coverage it will be impossible to rescue anything from their childhoods.

They will never be the same little boys their families knew, and I guess it will be hard for them to relate to adult males.

I just hope they werent abused, but maybe, they will just keep silent like most of us, and bottle it all up for later in life

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#84962 - 01/14/07 09:19 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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*****TRIGGERS MAYBE*******

Something else that you guys may not have seen. While we were watching MSNBC yesterday, the FBI pofiler they use all the time was on. His name is Clint Van Zandt. Clint looks to be in his 50s now; he told a story of being 7 years old. His parents sent him 1/2 a block every day to get the newspaper. He said the cardinal rule in his house was never talk to strangers, never go near them. Get the paper and come straight home.

One afternoon he was walking to get the paper and a man came from between two houses and asked him if he wanted to see a litter of new-born pups. As any 7 year old who hasn't been warned of such a ploy would do, he got excited and said yes. He walked with the man to a garage and the man closed the door, but there were no puppies. The young Clint said he realized his mistake immediately and was terrified. The man told told him he wanted the boy to "do something to him that I'd never even heard of" Clint faught and the man tried to take him down. Luckily for the Clint, the man was drunker than drunk and the boy was able to get away.

So, you'd think he'd run right home right? No. He continued to the store, got the paper and then went home. He never told his parents what happened because he "knew" he'd get in trouble for breaking the rule about talking to strangers.

I thought it was incredibly courageous of that man to tell his story on TV - at his place of employment no less! What I was disappointed with was that he went on to say that he'd felt guilty for all of these years for not telling and allowing the man to still be on the streets but he failed to follow it up with HE WAS 7! No 7 year old on the planet could or should have been expected to take the responsibility for that.

As an FBI profiler with professional and personal experience in sexual assaults of children, I felt he should have put in that last sentence. It makes me think that maybe Clint Van Zandt doesn't realize the effect it had on him.

ROCK ON........Trish

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#84963 - 01/15/07 12:46 AM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Trish,

I think you are 100% correct concerning Mr. Van Zandt. He's carrying unnecessary guilt, it would seem. I suppose that's his journey to take.

Lots of love,

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#84964 - 01/15/07 02:12 AM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Unfortunately, they are not likely now to admit to being abused if they were because it will be all over the media. Also in there minds is that he is being charged with kidnapping and will be going to jail anyway and therefore there is no need to talk about it.

This of course coupled with all of the normal reasons a survivor has to keep the secret inside.

For their sakes, I hope that they weren't molested but if they were I hope somehow they find the help they need and the strength to talk about it.

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#84965 - 01/15/07 04:09 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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More details are coming in according to the New York Times

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152007/new...andy_geller.htm

"Kiddie porn was found on the home computer of the hulking loner accused of kidnapping two St. Louis boys, law-enforcement sources said yesterday. "

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#84966 - 01/15/07 05:33 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Its still too early to speculate what happened to these boys, and he must have had an incredible hold on the older boy to have his name changed.

If he has had such a hold, the boy may not want him charged with CSA!
This may go on for months before any real information comes out \:\(

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#84967 - 01/18/07 02:48 AM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Well, the discussion coming from some people (like Bill O'Reilly, for instance) that Shawn ran away on purpose can be put to rest:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070117/ap_on_re_us/boys_found_investigation

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Washington County, Mo., prosecutor John Rupp said in a statement that Devlin, 41, was charged with kidnapping and armed criminal action. The statement does not name Shawn, but uses the initials SDH.

A probable cause statement released by Rupp said Devlin "abducted SDH utilizing force for the purpose of terrorizing the victim. After securing SDH, Michael Devlin flourished a handgun in order to gain compliance of the minor child. Michael Devlin then transported him out of the county and concealed his whereabouts for four years and three months."

Rupp and Sheriff Kevin Schroeder would not discuss evidence in the case beyond the probable cause statement, but Rupp said he wanted to shoot down speculation that Shawn ran away on his own.

"Shawn was abducted against his will," Rupp said. "Period. End of story."
So that's enough of that. Meanwhile, I wasn't convinced at any point that this is a true case of Stockholm Syndrome, and I'm not convinced now either. In Stockholm, a victim bonds with and comes to like and relate with a perpetrator. There's no indication anywhere that Shawn ever "liked" this Devlin character, except that he didn't escape all this time. However, being threatened with a gun is certainly a powerful and convincing argument for an 11-year-old that he should do what he is told - including "don't run away". Considering that this kid has been kept in a bubble - away from other adults, away from education of any kind - there's no compelling reason to believe that he would be any "smarter/cleverer/more thoughful" after four years, either.

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#84968 - 01/18/07 04:35 AM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Melliferal,

Thanks for posting that. I never believed that Shawn ran away or stayed away because of his parents, especially after reading about them. That family agonized and worked so hard for four years to find their son and they've done so much to help other families in similar positions. They even lost their jobs and their home because of exhausting all of their financials in their efforts. They were destroyed by his abduction and they're rejoicing now that he's home.

As for any "chances" Shawn had to escape, hey, he was a little kid when a 300 lb. man stole him. I've no doubt of the fear that child lived with day to day; survival in the only world he now knew was all he had.

Thanks again..........Trish

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#84969 - 01/19/07 08:27 AM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Hi,
Just jumping in the middle here...
I saw that the younger kid was on a morning news show with his family, and the older kid was on Oprah today. I'm sure the families were paid, but it seems so wrong, it's like they're going to be victimized all over again as the details come out. What's wrong with Oprah? Are ratings that important? I know it's valuable to put the spotlight on abuse and make people think about calling the cops when then see something questionable going on. But it's just too soon. These boys need a trauma psychologist and some time away from the media. If I was a billionare I'd offer to match any offer the media made to tell their story.

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#84970 - 01/19/07 02:05 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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I agree with you 100% about the appearances going on now. They should have left it at the initial press conference and then moved on with the business of what has to be done.

And what the hell is wrong with Oprah! Why, on national television, would she ask the parents if they believed Shawn was sexually abused; and why the hell would the parents answer!? I don't indict the parents as much as I do Oprah. She was a victim of sexual abuse and knows what that boy is going through. The parents may have been blind sided by her question and just answered it honestly, but still..... They are going to regret it, if they don't already.

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#84972 - 01/19/07 02:47 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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what the hell is wrong with his caring loving parents? i think there is more to this than we know ,the parents are letting the abuse continue ,that kid should be in therapy not on oprah. its getting eaiser to see why he didnt try to get back to them .

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#84973 - 01/19/07 02:55 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Adam,

My gut tells me that I have to disagree with you, but time will tell. At the moment, I think they are just two ordinary people who were and are caught up in an extraordinary situation that they don't know how to handle and are, unfortunately, handling it badly for Shawn. They may have thought that because of Oprah's history it was a "safe" interview - I don't know. I just cant wait for the day that it fades into just another news story in the public's eye so that these boys are out of the spotlight.

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#84974 - 01/19/07 02:56 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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well do you think there is money involved? the interviews are paid right?

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#84975 - 01/19/07 03:00 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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People will do anything for money, but what about the poor kid!
Giving interviews will corrupt any evidence given in Court.
If I was his parent, he would never have gone in front of cameras, he will never be a kid again, the least they could have given him is anonymity.
Let him get something of his childhood back, not parade him like a circus act,

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#84976 - 01/19/07 03:12 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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I do Adam and that's another dynamic. Shawn's parents lost everything, including their home, and went very heavily into debt in their efforts to find him. The thought of getting back on their feet so that they could actually pay for his therapy in the future was no doubt a consideration.

I know I'm defending them, but please don't think I agree with their decisions. I believe the decision to grant further interviews and to have Shawn involved are bad ones, probably being made with bad advice and alot of pressure. This is a family in crisis with hands pulling them in more directions than they can look at any one time.

They should disconnect the phone, stop the mail and only see the police and therapists. But they're not asking me what to do. They're totally out of their element with people around who are very savvy at convincing people to do things they wouldn't otherwise do with arguments that are not easily faught if you don't know any better.

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#84977 - 01/19/07 10:05 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Trish, I would lose everything just to get him back, but I would never use him to make money.
If they did that to me as a kid, I would never be able to recover.
Yeah, there is a load to be told in this unfolding story, but to do that to a kid will totally isolate him from his peers.
I ran the gauntlet when I was a kid, on perceived neighborly knowledge.
Its unthinkable to put the kid as a show personality.
No doubt he will never work, turn to drugs etc.
Life is worth more than money Trish, a lot more!

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#84978 - 01/19/07 10:31 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Money means nothing, unless you don't have it, then it's a problem. Again, I don't agree with their decisions, but I'm willing to cut them some slack because they've been through hell too.

This kid will have problems, of that I'm sure, but I'm not so sure about your statement that, "No doubt he will never work, turn to drugs etc." I hope things turn quickly and he gets the help he needs. He's still a young boy.

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#84979 - 01/19/07 10:42 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Trish, kids dont have to ever go through that in my country.
They have totally trashed his life, he will never recover from the media.
Believe me, he will always be the butt of all jokes and hide away from life.
I did it without publicity, believe me its horrendous for him,

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#84980 - 01/19/07 10:48 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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I do believe you Ste.

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#84981 - 01/19/07 11:12 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Trish, I did a whole load of thinking on this iessue, from how he went missing to when he was found.
It glares out that he was already primed for abuse from another.
Any normal child would bolt back home to their loving family.
Somehow he became under the spell of this man, probably telling him lies.
There is a whole load more to this story than meets the eye.
Even though he is 15yo he is a lot more immature than a kid his age.
We may even be looking at kids he killed when they got too old, or were about to tell, and this is what really frightens me.
They dont have any respect for life, no matter what they pretend to be, boy lovers etc.
I am not saying this is the case, but to cage a kid and snatch a younger one, is pretty dubious.

If he was my son, or I was his guardian, no way he would be on TV., I would rather starve than put a kid through a publicity stunt and lose his dignity,

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#84982 - 01/19/07 11:28 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Any normal child would bolt back home to their loving family.
Ste, how can you say that? You know what threats can do to a child. Shawn was kidnapped at gun point. Later he may not have had metal shackles on, but for all intents and purposes, he did. He was a county away from home, but to an 11 year old, he might as well have been in another country.

I could get real hot on this, as could you, but the bottom line is that all the conjecture in the world means nothing 'cause we just don't know. All we do know is that 2 boys were kidnapped by the same SOB, one was held for 4 years, the other for 4 days. Now they're home and they need help.

Trish

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#84983 - 01/19/07 11:37 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Been there Trish, not make it any easier for the kidas involved, beliebe me, there is a lot more to this than what we know!

ste

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#84984 - 01/21/07 10:07 AM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!!
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Has anyone posted here about the much bigger story of the Belgian girl who just escaped?

That looks to be a very complicated one. She won't even see her parents and a lot of money has changed hands.

I'd like to hear other people's opinions on that case, as the the first book just came out by a German investigative journalist.

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#141438 - 02/13/07 07:11 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!! [Re: AshSurvived]
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************TRIGGERS************

I don't know if any of you have been following this story since it first broke, but here's the update that was reported last week. Sadly, it confirms what was suspected.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/02/05/boys.found/index.html

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#141443 - 02/13/07 07:32 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!! [Re: Trish4850]
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Trish

I am deeply saddend and very, very angry. I dont know what else to say.

Duncan - so angry

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#141446 - 02/13/07 07:47 PM Re: Not one but TWO missing boys FOUND!! [Re: duncanUK]
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I agree Duncan.

Some of the news is making comparisons to the case of Steven Stayner. I read the book, I know my name is Steven many, many years ago, but forgot until this horror came up. Here's link to the MSNBC story. Again, there may be ***TRIGGERS*** here.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16724481/site/newsweek/

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