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#84061 - 07/17/06 07:20 PM Remember these!
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AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - A Dutch court said on Monday a political party formed by paedophiles could not be banned as it had the same right to exist as any other party and was protected by democratic freedoms.

The Brotherly Love, Freedom and Diversity party (PNVD) was launched in May and campaigns for a cut in the age of consent from 16 to 12 and the legalisation of child pornography and sex with animals, provoking widespread outrage in the Netherlands.

The Solace group that campaigns against paedophiles sought a ban as it said the party infringed the rights of children and its ideas were a threat to social norms and values in a democratic state. But a court in The Hague rejected the bid.


"The freedom of expression, the freedom of assembly and the freedom of association ... should be seen as the foundations of the democratic rule of law and the PNVD is also entitled to these freedoms," the court said in a statement.

The court said these freedoms were not unlimited, but limits to them could only apply to activities that undermined public order and judges could not take lightly a decision to ban a political party.

"It is up to the voter to give a judgement on the arguments of political parties," Judge H. Hofhuis told the court. It is not Dutch practice to publish the first names of judges.

No Kidding, a group campaigning for children's rights, said the right to freedom of expression was not absolute and called on the Dutch government to act against the PNVD.

"Dutch citizens must make their voices heard if we do not want to sacrifice our children to paedophile interests," it said in a statement, adding it planned to petition parliament.

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#84062 - 07/17/06 08:45 PM Re: Remember these!
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I agree with the court's decision. As distasteful as PNVD is, they do have the right to speak and assemble. Much the same way that their opponents have the right to say that PNVD is wrong and despicable.

"I have always been among those who believed that the greatest freedom of speech was the greatest safety, because if a man is a fool, the best thing to do is to encourage him to advertise the fact by speaking."

Woodrow Wilson

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#84063 - 07/17/06 09:17 PM Re: Remember these!
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Nobby, in a land a long time ago lived me and the little boy who is now me.
I think I was about 12yo at the time, and there was a group who encouraged sex with kids.

They called themselves the pedo information exchange where they encouraged pervs to advertise their kids for sex with adults.

I cannot think of the perps name, but he just full front on TV, told everyone about his desires.
Now he is on the run, but why? Was he not on the run from gangs of vigilantes back in the 70s!

There is a political hidden agenda which protects these pervs from in depth scrutiny of their lives.
My mind as a 12yo could not believe they wanted abuse made legal.

Put them all under surveillance, never, they are great figures in society.
If the age was lowered to 12yo, then you get the defence that a 10yo, looked older etc.

People just cannot understand the damage that inter generational relationships or other abuse does to a kid.

They do have those rights, but kids have rights too, and so many times their rights are ignored.
I got to know that when I was a little boy, that I had no rights against adults.

One thing that always troubled my mind was this.
Why? Are kids reaching puberty so young!
Is it the work of the devil, or is it mankind taking advantage of their coming of age.

I guess the latter is the only true explanation I can figure on,

ste

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#84064 - 07/18/06 01:46 AM Re: Remember these!
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If there is a hidden political agenda then the best thing is to have a pedophile party that makes that agenda public.

Personally I think the average person finds these people and their party abhorrent. I sure do. By playing their warped act on the 5 o'clock news I think the pedos are going to get more than they bargained for, because once they make their message public, it will be open to criticism and debate. And that is where the good guys will hold the pedos up to the light of public scrutiny.

Let them have their little party. It will be their undoing.

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#84065 - 07/18/06 10:49 AM Re: Remember these!
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Nobby,

they are already shouting from the rooftops, have a look at http://www.cerius.org.

The pedo party are going to the polls in November.

It will be interesting to see how many votes they get.
But if they are already outing themselves, then should the authorities be keeping a keen eye on each and every one of them,

ste

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#84066 - 07/18/06 02:52 PM Re: Remember these!
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Let them go to the polls. Personally I can't understand why these people felt the need to form a political party. Either they are extremely stupid or extremely arrogant. It will be interesting to see what happens to them when they are dissected, drawn and quartered by the other political parties and the media.

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