Newest Members
lilac, The Wife Of, smusab, whiteflag, North101
12287 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
adam319 (46), Bellemaman (36), Bob G. (58), S D Witwicky (38)
Who's Online
3 registered (bluesky, 2 invisible), 21 Guests and 5 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
12287 Members
73 Forums
63225 Topics
442123 Posts

Max Online: 418 @ 07/02/12 07:29 AM
Twitter
Topic Options
#84023 - 03/27/02 09:49 PM Read these sometime...
orodo Offline
Member
MaleSurvivor

Registered: 03/15/02
Posts: 735
Loc: Imladris, The Safe Haven of Ar...
http://www.portland.com/news/nemitz/020327nemitzcol.shtml
http://www.portland.com/news/local/020327gerry.shtml
http://www.portland.com/news/local/020327archive.shtml
http://www.portland.com/news/local/020327localplayers.shtml
http://www.portland.com/news/local/020327victims.shtml

This is really frustrating...some of these e ex-priest "alledged" perpertrators are still living in Maine, unsupervised. Everybody is more worried about the survival of the Church than what might happen to their children at the hands of these individuals. Happy Easter...


_________________________
It is better to be Dragon Master than Dragon Slayer. Some Dragons are meant to be mastered, others meant to be slain. Odin, Great Spirit, God, grant me the wisdom to know the difference. "May the Valar guide and bless you on your path under the sky"

Top
#84024 - 03/27/02 10:59 PM Re: Read these sometime...
Anonymous
Unregistered


Ya gotta understand where celibacy comes from. Go back a thousand years or so and the populace was ignorant. Education was reserved for the few. A Bic lighter,magnifying glass,etc back then would've gotten you worshipped as godhood. But the powers-that-be did'nt have Bic lighters. What to do to differentiate themselves from the street scum? Easiest route was to use sexuality. Egyptions,Hawaiians and others allowed incest amongst their hierarchy. Commoners got snuffed if they did the same. Thus set the precedent that to be sexually different indicated superiority. So was born the Catholic Church's "Hey,our guys go without sex unlike you unwashed dipshits. We're better than you. Worship us". The populace being several braincells short of a C-cell battery figured "Well golly gee. I think they've got something there. We'd better suck the Pope's ass". The rest is,as they say,history.


Top
#84025 - 03/28/02 12:07 AM Re: Read these sometime...
Jim C. Offline
Member

Registered: 03/23/02
Posts: 63
Loc: New Mexico
Tinfoil,

I like your explaination and thoughts, it is much more fun than the real reason. Unfortunately, it was much more mundane than that, although later to be justified by Paul's and Jesus's unwed status (the latter of which is questioned by historians since the absence of mention of something so unique seems strange-but the Church tells he was not married, so, therefore, he was single--I question everything sorry guys). The Catholic Curch used to allow priests to marry and even bishops were married. It really came down to a property issue. the children of bishops and priests were inheriting lands donated to the church. So the restricitions on marriage of bishops started and then for priests to preven the problem of distribution of church wealth. BTW, it is possible for a pope to be elected who is not even a priest. Go figure! The idea of papal infallibility did not arise until the end of the nineteenth century and retains an obscure caveat: if one true believer dissents than the papal edict is not infallible...(Roman Catholic seminary taught me something...even though I never went on to be a priest...I Thank God \:D --Literally! :cool \:\)

Jim C.

_________________________
In all of time and space, there is but one you and one me...

Top
#84026 - 03/28/02 09:53 PM Re: Read these sometime...
orodo Offline
Member
MaleSurvivor

Registered: 03/15/02
Posts: 735
Loc: Imladris, The Safe Haven of Ar...
all very good points. My points needs to be made outside of here, that is, that ex-priests with untreated, un-convicted, unaccountable, pedophilia are living and abusing more generations of children and the Church does nothing to stop it.

_________________________
It is better to be Dragon Master than Dragon Slayer. Some Dragons are meant to be mastered, others meant to be slain. Odin, Great Spirit, God, grant me the wisdom to know the difference. "May the Valar guide and bless you on your path under the sky"

Top
#84027 - 03/29/02 12:34 AM Re: Read these sometime...
Jim C. Offline
Member

Registered: 03/23/02
Posts: 63
Loc: New Mexico
Orodo,

I agree with you, the church needs to do something with the pedophilia and other sexual problems among the priesthood. They need to protect congregations from further abuse. Those 'priests' need to be registered under Megan's Law just like other sexual crime perpetrators! What started out as a property issue has made the priesthood the place for people with sexual problems (read sinful sexual natures) to seek an appropriate vocation and life. The church does not allow for sexual expresion except for between husband and wife, some men who are gay or even prone to pedophilia may honestly think that if they take vows ofchastity and celebacy they can control their sexual urges. Some may be able to do so, others as we have seen far too often now, have not and will not be able to control those urges and perpetrate on those available to them.

Something has to change.

Jim C.

_________________________
In all of time and space, there is but one you and one me...

Top


Moderator:  Chase Eric, ModTeam 

I agree that my access and use of the MaleSurvivor discussion forums and chat room is subject to the terms of this Agreement. AND the sole discretion of MaleSurvivor.
I agree that my use of MaleSurvivor resources are AT-WILL, and that my posting privileges may be terminated at any time, and for any reason by MaleSurvivor.