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#83759 - 04/26/06 09:49 PM Academics Defend Pedophilia
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This is scary stuff especially when taken in conjunction with the NAMBLA posts on the main board. Could be triggering:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/9/23/94446.shtml


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#83760 - 04/27/06 12:59 AM Re: Academics Defend Pedophilia
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I would want to talk to these professors' children.

The article is actually quite good. It exposes these academics for what they are, i.e., frauds. Pedos use this pseudoscience to try to rationalise what they do, but as the article says, "real" scientists have thoroughly discredited these theories that rape doesn't harm children.

What really sickens me is when people make the argument that "Children are sexual beings, therefore, adults can have sex with them." Childrens' sexuality is for them and other children. Kids need to explore their sexuality on their own and with other kids, but any adult that entices or forces a child into sex is just exploiting and abusing that child's innocence. And that is horrifically damaging to the child.

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#83761 - 04/27/06 03:50 AM Re: Academics Defend Pedophilia
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I sometimes wonder how these people come to the conclusion that molestation is "not harmful". Who did they ask - the child-molesting "research volunteers" who claim to have been molested as children? Oh, sure, they're not screwed up at all.

You know, it's strange - if somebody had asked me at the time of the abuse, in confidence, whether I was hurt or "damaged" by it, I would've laughed the question off. But I'm not laughing now.

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#83762 - 04/27/06 02:15 PM Re: Academics Defend Pedophilia
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Being a professional academic myself, I must say that this kind of pseudo-scholarship doesn't surprise me. An immoral person doesn't morph into something else just because s/he completes a Ph.D. program and writes a thesis with lots of notes. There are also scholars out there who were idiots to begin with, or are gullible for any faddish idea that comes along, or anxious for controversy so as to become the center of attention.

The problem at this level is that genuine critical scholars will dismiss the nonsense of others in, for example, their own books or in book reviews published in professional journals. Those are read by a small academic audience, but they do serve to undermine the credibility of the nonsense at that level. But then if that same nonsense gets picked up by the press, it gains a huge publicity and what real scholarship has already said simply gets drowned in the uproar.

It really is a big problem in many fields and has been for years.

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#83763 - 04/27/06 03:04 PM Re: Academics Defend Pedophilia
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You mean there is no chaos theory? ;\)

You are right, junk science sells. I think academia has a real responsibility to be much more active in quashing pseudoscience. It doesn't advance the quest and it provides a good hiding place for charlatans and worse. Only thing pseudoscience is good for is getting movie roles for Jeff Goldblum.

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#83764 - 04/27/06 05:11 PM Re: Academics Defend Pedophilia
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Nobby,

Actually, chaos theory is very interesting and it's real science! But yes, junk science and scholarship are megabuck industries: like Dan Brown and the "Da Vinci code". Brown's ideas have been dismissed and refuted so many times by serious scholars, but so long as people keep lining up for copies the mill will keep grinding wheat into ashes.

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#83765 - 04/27/06 05:18 PM Re: Academics Defend Pedophilia
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Kirk posted another topic like this, and it is in archive on this same forum.
Go back and read it, from what I remember, he even got an scholarly award.

Digging around the sewers of life, really can dredge up some sh*t.
I would rather study the chaos theory anytime ;\)
At least it is a worthwhile academic study,

ste

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#83766 - 05/03/06 01:22 AM Re: Academics Defend Pedophilia
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NewsMax is notorious for its shoddy journalism and right wing perspective, so I'd take any "news" I found there with several grains of salt.

Frankly, I don't have enough unbiased information about UC-Santa Cruz professor Gayle Rubin to render an opinion, because right wing media outlets have a very nasty habit of quoting folk out of context in order to demonize them, especially if they have a pro-gay stance.

With that said, I also know that there are plenty of whackos in academia who are more concerned about garnering publicity than they are about the veracity of their work.


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