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#83431 - 01/29/06 01:20 PM My heads in bits over this
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HUGE BOOST FOR JONATHAN KING'S CLAIMS TO BE "TOTALLY INNOCENT". GOVERNMENT ORDERS URGENT REVIEW INTO THE SAFETY OF HIS CONVICTIONS.

Background
The Criminal Cases Review Commission, the body set up by the government to investigate miscarriages of justice, has decided to reopen its inquiry into the safety of the conviction of Jonathan King, 61, following the presentation of new evidence by King’s lawyers.

In September 2001, King was convicted on six counts of having indecently assaulted young men in the 1980s. He was sentenced to seven years’ imprisonment and was released in March 2005 having served half his sentence. He has always protested his innocence.

The new evidence consists of documents and statements showing, for example, that he was in New York in September 1985, when he was alleged to have committed an offence in London.

He was not able to bring this evidence forward at trial because the dates of the alleged offences on the indictment sheet were changed at the very end of the trial – after the defence case had been completed.

Statement
“I am delighted that the CCRC has now reopened my case. I hope, at last, to be able to prove my innocence.

“At my trial, I proved I could not have committed four of the alleged crimes on the dates claimed and I assumed I would be found not guilty.

“I was astounded when the prosecution was simply allowed to change the dates on the charges, and even more horrified when I was not given any opportunity to discover or present alternative alibis for these revised charges. I was not even allowed to say to the jury "I didn't do it then either".

“Since being released, I have been able, with great difficulty, to assemble evidence which proves that I was in New York on the very day that I was supposedly indecently assaulting a youth in my house in London.

“The jury did not hear this critical evidence. Nor did they hear my defence to the other charges for which the dates were changed.

“It is incredibly difficult for someone to find an alibi for events that are alleged to have taken place 20 years or so earlier, when it's simply one person's word against another's. But when the dates are changed – in one case to two and a half years later, and the man is someone I don’t believe I ever even met – it becomes totally absurd.

“I am aware that the wheels of British justice grind very slowly, but I sincerely hope that in my case they now begin to accelerate towards their final destination – the truth.”

The law
Among the several legal precedents on which King will rely are the cases of R v Bonner [1974] in which the Court of Appeal ruled that dates should be amended only after the defence had had “ample opportunity” to consider whether further evidence should be called.

In the landmark case of Mattoccia v Italy, before the European Court of Human Rights [2003], the ECHR found in favour of Mattoccia and declared that changes of dates in such circumstances were a fundamental breach of human rights.

ENDS

I am determined that this is not going to screw my head but its very hard not to take this seriously but my mind has gone into overdrive.

It will however, not take my focus off trying to get decent professional resources for survivors.

King is as guilty as hell and I know it.

Kirk
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#83432 - 01/29/06 01:53 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Kirk,

he is a filthy old pervert, and there is strong evidence of his guilt, I have read it all.
Do not explode with this just yet, put it into context.

" GOVERNMENT ORDERS URGENT REVIEW INTO THE SAFETY OF HIS CONVICTIONS".

Why? Would they want to do that, if they are not trying to cover up other perps.
I hope Shy is onto this, and get the facts straight.

The only thing we can think of is to keep strong in the knowledge of what we know.
His career is finished, but he is still a danger to boys.

Did he, or could he ever look into your eyes and say he did not do it, NO, he cannot and could not do it.

The best way of sorting out whether he did it or not, is not about dates but get a tribunal of experts, put him in front of a panel of boys he hurt and watch him closely.

A good psychologist and body language expert could make a report as to whether he was guilty or innocent.

This is the way laws worked in the past, but we have lost that right in favour of money,

ste

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#83433 - 01/29/06 01:57 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Ste

A tribuneral of experts, that sounds positive and will go with that but how does one go about that in a leagsl sense?

Any suggestions

Kirk
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#83434 - 01/29/06 02:29 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Kirk,

you are the expert, others have expertise.
Tribunals are of the past, but now they are coming back as community courts.

The ones who make laws to protect the innocent, sadly protect the not so innocent.
We can only hope that this blows the lid off him, because he would have abused loads of boys, not just the few who came forward.

They alone hold the key to the future of this perp.

Funnily, as I grew up and saw him on TV etc., my perp radar went wildly out of control.
Guess I am an expert too, get the message?

I hope the others will come forward and get him locked away for a decent stretch, he said he loved prison, let him return there for her majestys pleasure.

You can phone me if you want a good rant, but believe me, ppl like him make me seethe with rage, andhe never even touched me, so I cannot think how much it is doing to you,

keep your head, he will falter, and get caught, he has not been treated for his appetite for boys, so he will be found out,

I hope,

ste

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#83435 - 01/29/06 06:50 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Hang in there Kirk. You are safe and supported and you're not done yet. \:\)


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#83436 - 01/29/06 06:58 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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king, unfortunately, has a slight advantage.

The survivors are expected to put dates on events that happened 20 or more years ago, when they were kids and had no need to 'mark time' - There is no possible way I could put specific dates on my abuse because it happened frequently and over 4 years, and even if a survivor was abused for say, 2 months and maybe 4 or 5 times in that period, what chance have they got of getting the dates exactly right?

king on the other hand was an adult, and a very busy and famous one at that, so it's far easier for him to trace his whereabouts accurately. I bet his accountant would have records for a start that would prove where he was.

The law is both right and wrong here, if I was defending myself against wrongful charges then I would want to present evidence of my alibi.
But as a victim I also want to be believed.
Which leaves us in the hands of lawyers and their word games.

If king does prove he was in the US on those dates, then all it proves to me is that the poor guy got the dates wrong.
With any luck some of the other survivors will step forward because, like us, we're sick to fucking death of king and his pitiful ranting.

Dave

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#83437 - 01/29/06 07:32 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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I really hope that others do come forward as Dave says. He is a serial pedo, he was part of a pedo ring.

I dont know about dates n stuff, but I always though I was 11yo, but it was definitely 10yo, you may think that doesnt matter but it does to me.

How I got to even hold down a job is a mystery to me, when I think of all the crap going through my head.

If he wins then the boys he abused will just have to carry an extra burden of guilt to cover the shits ass, let us pray that others come forward with intimate details that they could not have known about unless he did these things.

I want him behind bars until he admits his needs for boys and gets the necessary help, even then he would be a danger in my eyes.

Its us who get the life sentence for being totally innocent, that does not make any sense in my mind, but it is true.

Kirk, dont let it get to you, you have ppl to get you through use that link.

God, I am really gonna ask God for them others to come forward and shame and humiliate him for eternity.

He is guilty, so let him sue me.
The best sentence for him would be!

I told myself not to get angry, so I am not going to even type my thoughts on this matter, I dont have to, you all know perfectly what I am thinking \:o

ste

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#83438 - 01/29/06 07:34 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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BTW

That is the longest post I have been able to write recently before my server drops out.

Maybe God is starting to listen,,,thanks God,

ste

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#83439 - 01/29/06 08:32 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Dave,

You said this:

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The survivors are expected to put dates on events that happened 20 or more years ago, when they were kids and had no need to 'mark time' - There is no possible way I could put specific dates on my abuse because it happened frequently and over 4 years...
That's exactly it bro. I would be frustrated and furious beyond imagining if the man who abused me were alive and I had to argue exact aspects of chronology. He molested me over a hundred times and over four years - and now someone wants to ask for exact dates and times and places?

When it was happening I was desperately dissociating just to get through the day. I bet I couldn't peg a single incident exactly, even in cases where, for example, he abused me on or close to my birthday or near Christmas. Was that 1961, 62? I have no idea now.

I wonder, does the law really have no appreciation for all this? Abused kids are terrified victims, not timekeepers.

Larry

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#83440 - 01/29/06 08:35 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Kirk,

Hang in there. Just because there is a need to review the case it doesn't mean he will get off.

I know this must enrage you no end, but just be sure that all the work you have done is of the utmost importance. This Perp of Pop is only 61 and could have harmed a lot more kids.

Larry

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#83441 - 01/29/06 09:38 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Question?

If I did a survey of men in their fortys or fifties in my area and the question was this.

Can you give me a specific date or dates of significant events other than birthdays or christmas's when you were 13yo.

How many would call me barmy!

How many would say, oh, I did this on april 4th 1964 or any other date from that era?

My tiny mind suggests nobody could answer that, but I am not a legal eagle, maybe I should be,

ste

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#83442 - 01/29/06 11:07 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Kirk - I am aware from recent events that It is very rare for a witness/complainant to give precise time frames for events relating to abuse. I was only able to give a precise timeframe for my case because of the unique circumstances that led up to the abuse.

If king is sticking his head up like this again, I only hope it brings more of his victims out into the open to complain against him. It's a shame the pervert can't just have an accident.

I really think that it's time our government sent a message to these perverts that they mean business - who on earth gives them a key to get back onto the streets! Once locked up that should be it - no remission.

It's mad in this country at present - what with paedophiles working as PE teachers...must be like ****** christmas for this pervert.

Then you have the woman (Maxine Carr)that provided an alibi for a murdering paedophile, receiving £52k of private treatment for stress (News of the World today). Life-time protection for her is expected to run into millions! *I've sent an e-mail to the paper stating my views on this issue!

When I had my breakdown a couple of years ago, I was put on a list to see a Clinical Psychologist - I was eventually offered an appointment after 3 months, that would have required a further wait of another 6 months....no instant help there & I never did anything wrong! Luckily I got professional help immediately from work.

Support the victims/survivors - sod the perverts!!

Best wishes...Rik

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#83443 - 01/30/06 04:15 AM Re: My heads in bits over this
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I couldn't tell you when my brother abused me, I've made educated guesses as to approximately how old I was. There was only one time I can tell you within a week but that was because I was on vacation in California at the time and to do that, I'd have to ask my mother when we went.

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#83444 - 01/30/06 12:16 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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I would just like you all to think of the real pattern of events surrounding this case.

Kirk knows more of the story than I ever could write here.

King was filthy rich and living in a large urban community which was a perfect feeding ground for perverts such as himself.

I do not know the particular community, but I have visited the London area and there is/was, pockets of deprived kids in large communities.

One case stuck in my mind was when he met a 14yo boy in London city with his dad, he went on to travel about 50miles, regularly to be with this kid who lived in Luton.

I do not know why the kids dad did not realise from the start what was happening at the time, but I guess a kid of that age would have been thrilled to ride in a limousine, when only rich ppl had even a basic car.

The trap was set, pedo behaviour was largely ignored due to what the public might think.
The boy probably bugged his dad to let him get his own way, and go with King.

The difference between that era and today is largely the same, yes, we do have reports of atrocious behaviour with kids, but most is largely covered up for one of two reasons.

a) To stop the public beying for blood.

b) To dampen down the impact of the public knowing
what really happened was a whole lot worse,
especially if they knew who really was involved.

This is where we need to have a voice, and stop this menace to society.

The main issue to really ponder here is this.
It is to me unknown that a convicted pedo, serves half of a sentence without treatment in prison.

No parole board would consider a prisoner fit for release unless he admitted his guilt.

It is not what you know, it is who you know, high up asses must have helped this sick ass,

ste

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#83445 - 01/30/06 12:29 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Caution, the link has a perp pic on it, may trigger some,

Here is a link to the story.

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#83446 - 01/30/06 04:15 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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There is a blanket ban on TV news in my house over this affair!

Unless a few more men come forward!!

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#83447 - 01/30/06 05:32 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Ste

"No parole board would consider a prisoner fit for release unless he admitted his guilt."

I once thought this, it is not the case as the Parole Board are not there to sit as a jury, admiting your guilt is not a condition for parole.

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#83448 - 01/30/06 06:03 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Kirk,

"admiting your guilt is not a condition for parole".

Maybe that is true, even then though, they would have to consider whether he still posed a threat in the community by refusing help from officials.

He has a goog chance of getting clean away, because the appeal court would find the evidence unsafe on the date issue alone.

He proved the dates through an old passport.
Dont swing the guilt onto yourself.
I am itching for just a couple more guys to come forward on this case.

That would be the best way.
If he does win, then I hope the judges do not give him the right to compensation, that would be too much for me to take, never mind you and the others.

Let us just hope,

ste

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#83449 - 01/30/06 09:02 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Kirk,

Rik makes a good point:

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If king is sticking his head up like this again, I only hope it brings more of his victims out into the open to complain against him.
The case is so high-profile that this may well happen. And even if it doesn't surely there are sufficient safe complaints against him to make his conviction stick.

Larry

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#83450 - 01/30/06 09:12 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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There were another 20 guys willing to give evidence at the Old Bailey (me included) that didnt get the chance because of the Crown Prosecution Service unwillingess to proceed with the third and fourth trial as the second trial (yes it was split into four seperate trials) collapsed after the first witness of that trial could not remember if he was 15 or 16 at the time of the assault. If it does go Kings way I hope the court of appeal orders a retrial. I will be first in the queue.

This happened to me not once but twice with another of my abusers (Rob Randall), now they have my original abuser in custody awaiting trial I have been told that they have enough witnesses as my evidence will not make any difference to the sentance that is going to be handed down.

How the hell do they reach that conclusion when a jury hasnt even heard the evidence? Our Criminal Justice System is a total mess and offenders are litterally getting away with murder.

Kirk

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#83451 - 01/30/06 09:51 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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"because of the Crown Prosecution Service unwillingess to proceed with the third and fourth trial".

The one thing that dogs the CPS, is money, they have to put murderers and robbers plus terrorists before CSA cases.

They could not run a newsagents, never mind their own department.

How the Hell were the dates so muddled is a guess.

These trials that rely on historical evidence are very easy to disprove.
Asking me what happened last year is hard enough, never mind 1964.
It took me 41years to figure why I was so f*cked up at primary school, which means I was 10, not 11.

I kept wondering why 1964 number plates were so part of my psyche, then the penny dropped.

If he does win, and does not pursue compensation, then that would be his biggest admission of guilt.

If he seeks compensation, then I hope the police covertly follow him and catch him red handed.

Surely he has not turned over a new leaf!

Just keep that smug slut out of my face.

ste

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#83452 - 01/30/06 10:10 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Let's hope we are light years away from him seeking compensation. And yes, what I remember most about him Ste is that smirky look on his face. Yuk.

Larry

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#83453 - 01/31/06 12:01 AM Re: My heads in bits over this
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when other 'victims' see the injustice that just might happen if king is acuitted of some charges because of his dates alibi then I think they will be so enraged that they will come forward.

I could imagine that a victim of someone like king who is famous / notorious would often make the choice of staying silent as long as king was going down through someone elses evidence.
And I don't say that to belittle them or their choice, the opposite in fact.
But the genie is out of the bottle now, king is known for what he IS and not what he WAS, and I hope the inspiration of the guys who did testify makes an impact on those that made their choice to remain silent. If they still choose silence then we must respect that also.

If it wasn't for guys like Kirk, who I'm proud to call a good friend, then the king's of this world would abuse with impunity.
I think Kirk would agree that it was a set of circumstances and his own mental state that caused him to disclose, it certainly wasn't any desire to become hounded by the press, which has happened due to king's fame. And it's this kind of thing that will influence some victims to remain silent.

Kirk is a remarkable guy because he's learned to fight king, randall and all the rest of the Walton Hop perverts by turning their fame into his weapon.
The journey hasn't been all that smooth or comfortable for him, but I know one thing for sure - Kirk's NOT going to let them get away with it.

Dave

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#83454 - 01/31/06 12:11 AM Re: My heads in bits over this
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He can get off with it by technicality of law, we cannot.
It sends a massive message to survivors.

Dont even bother.

ste

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#83455 - 01/31/06 10:56 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Dont even bother.
But survivors do Ste, what else is there?

Dave

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#83456 - 01/31/06 11:57 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Dave,

they do, we dont!
I would hate to have to be abused by him, and see him beat the law.

What sort of message does this send to a kid who is freaking out from abuse.
A kid needs safety in disclosure, someone who cares.

He or she is unlikely to disclose if their case could be invalidated by an issue of dates.

It is the CPS who just dont get it, they take a case to court with a crap barrister, Why?

If a good barrister is out there, I can bet he does not work for the CPS.

A good barrister may have learned through this method of training, but if he is really good, then he goes it alone.

The CPS is exceptional in making mistakes on bringing prosecution cases, because they have to work the treadmill of getting so many cases to court without good barristers to prosecute.

It is about money, not sound conviction, they leave the case open for appeal, instead of thinking?

How could this guy really remember dates over such a time period!

I hope the evidence far outweighs his appeal, and the sum and scale of the evidence was enough to do him anyhow.

I only know one thing and that is this, the CPS will have a scale of barristers depending on the severity of the crime.

It is a lottery to have a barrister rely on dates without knowledge of how dates cannot be established in historical cases.

I hope the appeal judges use that logic to uphold his conviction,

ste

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#83457 - 02/01/06 08:07 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Dave,

Such an important point for perps to take note of:

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The journey hasn't been all that smooth or comfortable for him, but I know one thing for sure - Kirk's NOT going to let them get away with it.
An appropriate shock for them - to see the youngsters they brutalized turn now into strong men ready to point to them and accuse them.

Larry

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#83458 - 02/02/06 10:53 AM Re: My heads in bits over this
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I plan to chase the others (yes there are others) until one of us drops dead.

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#83459 - 02/04/06 04:08 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Loc: Shrewsbury UK
Now that I have had time to think all this through I have written to the editor of the Daily Mail and the two journalists that wrote a very biased article about King here is my letter/email:

JONATHAN KING from the instigator of Operation Arundel

Dear Mr Bob Woffinden and Mr Mark Nichol

As one of over 10 million survivors of childhood sexual abuse living in the UK today I was somewhat disappointed in the very positive slant given to your article about Jonathan King and his continuing campaign to prove his innocence. King as we all know is a master at media manipulation but where are the views of his victims? Of which I was one are. There appears to be no balance in reporting with regard Kings constant outbursts. In fact it was I that helped launch Operation Arundel after disclosing rather stupidly to Max Clifford. If you are interested I did not approach Max Clifford Associates (MCA) for financial gain more to enquire if any other boys (now adults) had approached him with regard Jonathan Kings one time promoter at Bell Records and co founder of Kings UK Record label the ex BBC radio One DJ Chris Denning (currently in custody in Wandsworth prison). However that was not the main reason for approaching MCA. 95% of my abuse took place in Weybridge and Walton on Thames and Mr. Clifford lives on the border of those two towns, because of his position in the PR world I assumed that he must of known that certain celebrities were attending one teen disco in Walton on Thames, the Walton Hop also known as the Walton Playhouse.

I had heard by way of Radio Five Live that Denning had been arrested in the Czech Republic for running a paedophile ring, coupled with the arrest of Gary Glitter for downloading Photographic Evidence of a Sexual Assault on a Child my mid went into overdrive, unfortunately Glitters arrest happened just after I had started a three year course at university. On hearing of Glitters arrest the first thing I thought of was Bell records, the second was of my original abuser Chris Denning. Unbeknown to me at the time, my Post Traumatic Stress Disorder began to manifest itself by way of nightmares, triggers and flashbacks, I succeeded in smothering these manifestations by focusing on my studies but that was to prove very difficult with the amount of paedophilia that was in the media at the time. There was the North Wales Children’s Home scandal and the ensuing Waterhouse Report, the disappearance of Sarah Payne and the commencement of the News of The Worlds name and shame campaign, trying to escape reports of paedophilic linked articles etc was neigh on impossible it seemed that the press was reaching saturation point with regards sexual crimes against children.

However I persevered with my studies but it was just prior to my final year exams I read an interview that Denning had given to The Guardian journalist Kate Connelly whilst in Pankrac prison. I was shocked and disturbed at Denning’s complete denial of any wrongdoing but I now recognise this as a typical trait of the true paedophile. The pressure was now on me to disclose the information I had kept secret for over thirty years, unfortunately I suffered a mental and physical breakdown forcing me to miss my final year exams. It was because of this that I decided to disclose. I felt that my past systematic abuse by Denning, King, Rob Randall and others was still acutely affecting me, my dream of becoming an archaeologist had been destroyed, and I thought enough is enough.

The Guardian article can be found here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,297548,00.html

As I have said I approached Max Clifford by email, not naming King only naming Denning and The Walton Hop they contacted me the following day and asked if I had any photographic evidence of which I did not. I was told “no photographic evidence, no go”. It was at that point that I decided to go to the National Criminal Intelligence Service (NCIS) as they had assisted the Czech authorities in the arrest of Denning and it was on the 8th May 2000 that I sent this email:

“Hi
Need advice
I have read you’re pages with much interest
Should I reveal abusers ID to the public domain without evidence? Remembering that this is a high profile person in the entertainment industry within the UK. Remember the Chris Denning case earlier this year. I was a victim of his paedophile ring that (operated out of Walton on Thames, Surrey during the early seventies onwards) included this particular individual. I would imagine that I could supply evidence of penetration, as I have had to have surgery on my tail end.
Thanks for your time
KMc”.

Within twenty four hours I was contacted by an officer from NCIS and within a fortnight they came up to interview me. It was then that disclosed who my abusers were. Operation Arundel was launched shortly afterwards. There has been a lot of talk about trawling there may well have been but it was I who gave the police the names of the boys who I knew had been regular visitors to Denning’s Weybridge home and I knew that some of them had sexual experiences with Denning as he had told me, this was one of his grooming techniques. May I suggest that the reason for so many men came forward with complaints against king was due to his statement he gave through his solicitor and say that this sort of thing was an “Occupational hazard” for someone in his position.

That statement can be read here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1038566.stm

When I met Denning in 1970 he was working for the Bell Record label (after being sacked by the BBC for remarks he made on air with regard to young teenage boys) as promotions manager. Bell was perhaps one of the most successful record labels of the early seventies with artists such as Eddison Lighthouse, David Cassidy with and without The Partridge Family, Tony Orlando and Dawn, together with Gary Glitter, The Bay City Rollers with their sex offender manager Tam Paton and one Jonathan King who recorded under numerous guises such as The Piglets (“Johnny Reggae”) and Shag (“Loop de Love”). King also acted as house producer for the Bay City rollers first hit "Keep On Dancing". I would appear that none of the media have picked up this link pointing towards a London based music industry paedophile ring.

The list of celebrities attending the Hop was impressive for the early seventies. Chris Denning and Jonathan king were indeed regular visitors, Denning lived just down the road on Oatlands Drive which was the main road link from Weybridge to Walton on Thames. Others that attended were Tam Paton the ex manager of the Bay City Rollers who has a conviction for sex with an underage boy. The Bay City Rollers were also visitors to the Walton Hop. However these were not the only now convicted paedophiles that attended. I have mentioned Rob Randall, he was a music journalist of national repute, and he was also a part time DJ that had residency at both the Walton Hop and Tolworth bowling alley. Randall was convicted in 2002 for sex with an underage boy. I was to appear as a primary prosecution witness at Kingston crown court against Randall. But on the advice of his defence team Randall pleaded guilty to a more recent sexual assault so as to keep me from the witness box linking Randall to his friends Denning, King and the Walton Hop.

Randall conviction can be read here: http://www.ruralwatch.net/news_item.asp?artid=1126

As one that was due to give evidence at Kings Old Bailey trial I am horrified to read that the Criminal Justice System has let the other twenty prosecution witness that were due to give evidence before the collapse of the second trial down so badly, if indeed dates have been falsified I really do think the Crown Prosecution Service and Judge Paget should be held to account for their actions.

Because of the attitude of the CPS towards survivors of childhood sexual abuse they are letting many more abusers go free than those that are supposedly falsely accused. King may get his convictions quashed I just hope the court of appeal orders a retrial.

I have had a certain amount of closure with regards Jonathan King when I confronted him last year, he now refers to me as a sad old man whose eyes he looked into and acme up with the quote as “I looked into this sad old man eyes I knew as well as he we did not ever meet”. As I looked into Kings eyes he could not hold my stare and what I saw was a very guilty, scared man as he darted for the sanctuary of the hotel lifts. I have the photographs to prove it.

The damage your unbalanced article has done towards those that want to disclose is immense, why should we disclose when we get treated so shabbily by the Criminal Justice System, The Crown Prosecution Service and the media. It is a life changing decision to disclose past sexual abuse because of the stigma it produces and it is often not a positive move for the survivor or their partners/family. Sexual abuse not only affects those that have been abused but their immediate circle, much like alcoholism.

Just one last thing why don’t you ask Jonathan King why he fired Chris Denning perhaps the best “plugger” (promoter) the British music industry has ever seen.

If you wish to know more, please do not hesitate to contact me on ***** ******

Yours sincerely

Kirk McIntyre


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#83460 - 02/04/06 05:51 PM Re: My heads in bits over this
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Kirk,

Again I can only say bravo for all this hard work. As much as getting perps punished, I think it's important for the way it shows that abused kids can turn into activist adults.

Larry

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