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#83013 - 06/07/05 05:19 AM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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The case is so complex, I do not know what to believe. I pray the correct decision is reached!

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#83014 - 06/07/05 05:41 AM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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I just hope that if they find him guilty they don't treat him special cos of who he is.

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#83015 - 06/07/05 03:53 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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This case is like a hot iron in my ass. The sooner its over the better. I dont for one minute think he is innocent, but lawyers can twist anything around.

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#83016 - 06/07/05 04:05 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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if any of us did half the things that hes accused of, wed have been in prison ages ago. money talks. i hope they lock him up but i wouldnt be shocked if they didnt.

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#83017 - 06/07/05 05:03 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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I'm guessing he will walk. I hope I am proven wrong.

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#83018 - 06/07/05 09:51 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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From what I hear the tape of the police interview is pretty convincing. In addition a very credible youth minister testified that Jackson molested him. Add in the book that was found in Jackson's bedroom of naked boys (which isn't technically child porn because of the lack of sexual posing or acts) and I think you have an impossible time finding him not guilty. Even if you think the main accuser is not credible.

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#83019 - 06/07/05 10:04 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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I got sick the other day, but now I am really sick. I just went downstairs, and on the TV is a programme about his fand beating effigies of prosecuting lawyers hanging from a tree.

I cant watch this stuff, and I dont know what it is about, trials like this really hurt me. They always do.

ste

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#83020 - 06/07/05 10:17 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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Those supporters are as wacko as Jacko.

From Fox News
"One woman was spotted with a sign showing Mahatma Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr., and Jackson."

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#83021 - 06/09/05 08:56 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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How about the lady fan with a cage holding 11 doves, one to realease for each count against him for which he's found not guilty? Like these people have any clue anyway what MJ does behind closed doors. It's called De-Ni-Al. SA doesn't happen to anyone, thus MJ must be innocent. What a bunch of weirdos. They should find MJ and his whole fan club guilty.

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#83023 - 06/10/05 10:18 AM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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Quote:
Originally posted by jtt5254:
Those supporters are as wacko as Jacko.

From Fox News
"One woman was spotted with a sign showing Mahatma Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr., and Jackson."
I think that is sickest thing I hear of it so far. Bitch.


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#83024 - 06/10/05 04:37 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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A cage full of vultures seems more appropriate,

ste

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#83025 - 06/11/05 10:19 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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we don't see and hear as much as you guys in the US do, but what I have seen horrifies me.

The sad thing is that many of the prosecution witness's have been trashed big time by the lawyers, some trashed themselves - the mother in particular!

OJ walked, and it wouldn't surprise me if jacko walks, or at least just gets convicted of lesser charges such as the supply of alcohol etc.

The thing I'm dreading is, if he walks then is he going to celebrate with tours etc? My gues is he would.

Dave

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#83026 - 06/11/05 11:52 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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even some of the jurors are questionable, apparently. i think whats going to be the deciding factor is that the whole case is built on circumstancial evidence which isnt really enough in the big picture. yeah we all know hes a sick perv but is there reasonable doubt? i guess thats up to the jury. i hope hes locked up forever.

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#83027 - 06/12/05 12:37 AM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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No excuse but I always believed that MJ was an abuse victim.

I suspect he is in the fringe of some "wacho" psychiatric disorder that if I knew what it was I
could not spell it.

"Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord gets me away from this creep"

He should have done what that movie director did: leave America? Roman Polanski, his idea "it is ok and good to screw a 14 year old girl"

Sorry, end of post I really gotta toss my cookies: throw up.

But I love you all!


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#83028 - 06/13/05 09:32 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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Only 15 minutes until the verdict is read. There is the part of me that wants to see him convicted because there is no doubt he does abuse children. However, there is so much circumstantial evidence that I can't see "beyond a reasonable doubt" being reached.

Of course, I will cheer from the roof-tops if I'm wrong!!!

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#83029 - 06/13/05 09:49 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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Please, please, PLEASE say he's found guilty....

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#83030 - 06/13/05 10:26 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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Oh, that's right. Boys aren't abused, are they? The mad freako with kids in his bed is innocent of absolutely everything. I'd better stop before I write what I really think.

I hope everybody here is OK. Even if society just struck again, we're a part of a group that stands for truth. We're here to say Yes, it does happen. We're here for each other. We'll be OK, right? Maybe by our speaking out now, the next generation will get the hint. Thanks to the board for having a site like this. What would we do without you?

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#83031 - 06/13/05 10:44 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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Surprised, shocked, sickened. jacko's a free man.

That's democracy and it's legal system in action, for better or worse.

Dave

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#83032 - 06/13/05 11:29 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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To "Shropshire" Lloydy and Jasper,

Hang in there!

They (the State) screwed up by pushing conspiracy
over just going for the molestation, Jay Leno
(the late night comic host) will have a few miles
on this and again make jokes about male sexual abuse and I will boycott his show again.

But guys I really mean it be above this, it must hurt.

Joe in Colorado

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do a bit of consulting with BBC4 radio


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#83033 - 06/13/05 11:33 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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Numb...nothing else to say... \:\(

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#83034 - 06/13/05 11:58 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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ME EITHER, no comment. To hurt inside

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#83035 - 06/14/05 01:40 AM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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you can't be suprised at this. i'm not.

it's funny how certian facts are not so upfront. like the fact jacksons primary source of income for the last 3 years has been from the top gay porn producer in california. courttv.com

this stinks of the boystown media blackout of the 80's. i wonder how many of you are aware of that? based on the fact it was immediately blacked out from all media.

jackson will do it again, i think we would agree. he'll get caught again. he's arrogant and clearly guilty of these and more charges.


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#83036 - 06/14/05 05:08 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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Found this,




The bottom line reads, if you are taller than this line, then you are not welcome at neverland :p

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#83037 - 06/15/05 07:44 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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This will be the last post I'll ever make on this moron. It's full of anger and probably disturbing images and/or thoughts. If you're still angry and will be hurt by such things, please don't read the post.


Ah, Michael Jackson is not guilty. I wish I could say I was surprised by that. I'm not. Angry, violated, frustrated, yes. Surprised, no.

The victim is to be believed. He was done in, sadly, by his own grifter mother who threw enough "reasonable doubt" on his testimony to discount it. The only juror comment I found bothersome was the one who counted the "lies" in his statements. Well, of course he's going to be uncertain and yes, even untruthful about what happened. I sure as Hell was. I hid it even from myself!

The freakshow outside the courtroom should've surprised no one either. Actually, the only sign (except now the one comparing a deceitful rapist to men of peace) I was disturbed with was the one that said, "Michael: On behalf of mankind, we're sorry!" I'm preaching to the converted here, I doubt anyone in that frigging crowd will read anything at the site, but fuck you from me on behalf of humankind! How DARE you apologize on my behalf, and on the behalf of other victims who know better?!

And as for Michael being in frail health because of all this? Good. I'm fucking glad. Perhaps it'll speed his trip to the fucking Hell he deserves.

The last thing I'll ever say about you, Jackson. I appreciate your contributions to pop culture. Your crimes don't affect my enjoyment of your early works: The same with my view of OJ Simpson's athletic and film career, the same as my enjoyment of Roman Polanski films or Ginsburg poetry. But after the jurors actually served both the law (which I occasionally find reprehensible) and justice with their comments that, although there was "reasonable doubt" of this crime, they were certain he was a rapist, do you HONESTLY expect to get your fame back? Ask Simpson about that one.

You're ruined financially (I'll forgive you selling back the Beatles' catalog. I want them back from you, bitch!), your physical health is gone, and I hope your screwy mind is that much more gone. It ain't very Christian to say so, but I'm satisfied with that.

Now hurry up and die, you bastard!




Scot

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#83038 - 06/15/05 08:45 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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i thought it was interestng to hear one of the jurors say that he thought jackson has sexaully abused boys, however, in this case he felt the proof wasn't there. he will get caught again.


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#83039 - 06/18/05 07:46 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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Scot wrote,

Quote:
And as for Michael being in frail health because of all this? Good. I'm fucking glad. Perhaps it'll speed his trip to the fucking Hell he deserves.
Being a christian I truly believe there is a place called Hell. I lost my faith in humanity many moons ago, but I have to have my faith in my religion.

I just turned the cable TV on and I heard a woman say////"Now that Michael has been found not guilty, the whole World can breathe a sigh of relief" She wasnt even blonde.

Some people live in such a small World covered by cotton wool

ste

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#83040 - 06/18/05 07:58 PM Re: Will Michael Get Off?
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i haven't been able to decide whether jackson was guilty. i'd rather have seen the evidence to decide. we all know he's not had the same experiences as the rest of us, and he's just been living in his own world.

everyone here seems to think he was guilty and be mad that he is not in jail now. the man has been living in his own self created jail his whole life.

i frankly don't really care about jackson. if after this another parent trusts their child with him, the parent is just as guilty of anything he does to that child.

instead of thinking of jackson--what about the accuser? to me--the whole circumstance is tragic no matter how you look at it. if he did do it, then is this young teenage boy getting help and therapy and the support he needs? the news isn't saying. and if he did not do it, this kid still needs therapy and treatment for living with a mother sick enough to put him out there to allege the lies. again, the news hasn't said what kind of help this kid is getting. everyone is focused on jackson. how this sickens me.


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