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#82934 - 03/29/05 02:08 PM This makes ME Angry!!!
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Johnathan king, serial sex offender against young boys, has been released on parole after serving just half of his seven year sentence.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1336684.html?menu=

Gets even better,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=342911&in_page_id=1770

His parold officer speaking on the radio, said that she is disgusted that he was ever given parole, he has never admitted to any of it, and refused treatment for it, in prison.

He has never shown, an ounce of remorse for what he did.

Each one of these boys, have to serve a life sentence for what he did, with no hope of getting out of it,Grrrrrrrr.

I hope that some of the others he got, will now come forward, and slam the bastard back where he should still be...

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#82935 - 03/29/05 06:51 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Two things -

1. This idiot's the British version of Michael Jackson. He'll never get it, he's surrounded by celebrity sycophants who tell him he's innocent, and he has the audacity to claim HE'S a "victim." I like the group "Genesis," and I'll not hold their art against the persons, but these guys need a serious head examination for defending this loon.

2. Thank God the Daily Mail online chose SUCH a wonderful picture to show the world what kind of goofball this pervert is. Really flattering!

To answer his "promotional statement;" yes, Elvis slept with an underage girl, yes, Oscar Wilde was attracted to underage boys, and yes, the others he mentioned may have felt or done what he did, but NONE of these things were against the law of the country or state they occured. Maybe homosexuality and child sex/rape was illegal in Britain at the time, but homosexual/child sex THOUGHTS weren't. Neither was marrying a 13/14 year old in Tennessee, much as I wish it was otherwise.

Justice!

Scot

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#82936 - 03/29/05 07:03 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Hi Ste,

Just saw the pathetic creep on the TV, coming out of prison, the smug, in denial, dangerous idiot had me feeling a burst of rage and contempt. The fool seemed to be loving the publicity and is so out of touch with reality that he sees himself as a champion of the innocent. A sickening sight, with his level of denial he is as dangerous as ever and shouldn’t be out of prison. The only consolation is that he shouldn’t be able to get access to boys so easily as a registered sex offender, I hope so at least.

A grotesque and sickening spectacle, grrrr……...

Rustam.


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#82937 - 03/29/05 11:17 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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this creep king is the worst kind of offender, one who thinks that he's right and the rest of the world is wrong.

Spare a though for our friend Archnut, this is a difficult time for him.

Dave

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#82938 - 03/30/05 02:33 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Dave, I was thinking of Dan, when I posted this thread.

I know the revulsion that this has caused, but the way he is trying to show innocence is too much hurt for me to take.

I cannot post what I want here, because there is so much more that I know about this type of predator, I cannot reveal.

Here is some more stories to look through,

http://www.westpress.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?
nodeId=146049&command=displayContent&sourceNode=145779&contentPK=12130656

gets better, claiming guilty and innocence,

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jht...requestid=50446

Here is a man breaking the silence, worth reading,

http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/wiltshire/swindon/news/SWINDON_NEWS22.html

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#82939 - 03/30/05 11:47 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Steve Bevan's work in Swindon is superb, I have a lot of respect for their organisataion.

And non at all for king, the more I see the worse it gets.
But thankfully the media aren't all playing into kings hands, although the guardian has been very sympathetic towards king in the past. Maybe they'll be plugging his new cd for him as well ?

Dave

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#82940 - 03/31/05 12:27 AM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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I might have been a bit unfair towards the guardian, it was the observer I was thinking about, Lynn Barber I think ?

But then I remembered this excellent bit of reporting.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4310240,00.html

But a further trawl through Google land took me to Jon Ronson's own site, and on the forums he says't that he quite likes king and that the sentence was too long.

http://www.jonronson.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=308&
Dave

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#82941 - 03/31/05 11:27 AM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Jon Ronson, says one thing in the guardian, then supports him on his blog.

Just how many were involved at the walton hop, is immeasurable, not just king, but many others need to be trawelled out.

King should have got life, for every life he took, it is the boys, who are now men who have had their childhoods taken away by these evil monsters.

I hope his appeal backfires, and they give him a longer sentence, I dont know if that is possible, but I hope they can, and I hope everyone stops defending this evil barbaric cancerous nonce.

How many more of these evil places exist today?
I know it was so much easily tolerated in the 70s and 80s, but to defend underage sex, means that they must also be doing it, or have done it.

the mind boggles,

ste

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#82942 - 03/31/05 03:22 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Hi Guys

What I did yesterday was the most empowering thing I have ever done, it was an amazing feeling I thought I would be shitting myself but I was so focused on what I had to do and as I have rehearsed what I wanted to say to him (and the others) so many times over the years it all kicked in just right.

I'm not a great reader of The Sun but by heck they pulled out all the stops to get me to confriont him it was like something out of a spy film waiting in underground car parks, hotel receptions, drinking endless cups of tea, weird.

King was actually in the process of making a "fly on the wall" documentary of himself when we ambushed him at the Shepheards Bush Hilton the documentary is to coincide with his new album "Sexual Terrorist". He really does need putting down and putting us all out of our misery.

Oh yes and he is still Man of the year 1997 awarded by the BPI (The Bristish Phonographic Industry) I think its time he was removed so I am going to start up a campaign to get him off that roll of honour, his ego would be completely crushed.

The Sun website article can be found here:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005142435,00.html

Two people I would like to thank here firstly my amazing wife and secondly Lloydy as I could have so blown it a couple of Sundays ago, It was so bad I and i was so angry that I self harmed for the first time in years but Lloydy visited me and talked me down, but today I am feeling pretty good and it feels as though the wieght upon my shoulders has now gone, hopefully for ever. I shall not let it return and the same can be said of my shame, that is resigned to the dustbin of life for good.

Thanks every one of you for supporting me all the time I have been here and I think its about time I joined ... ... ...!

With regards King there are things developing as to his parole conditions as it states he is not allowed to harrass his survivors which he does every time he opens that lopsided gob of his.

Kirk aka Dan aka Archnut


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#82943 - 03/31/05 03:29 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Jon Ronson and Lynn Barber have both been well and truely groomed they are mature adults what chance did I have as a fifteen year old by.

I met Jon Ronson when I did an inteview for him for the double Life Of Jonathan King and he was groomed by Chris Denning as well as he told me that he "could feel himself warming too Denning" what chance did I have as a fourteen year old boy stand.

At least there are two more gulible people out there I thought I was the only one.

Kirk


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#82944 - 03/31/05 08:02 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Yeah, the Sun shone through today all right, terrific stuff.

It's easy to critisize the tabloid press and be all snobby about not reading them, but the truth is they sell more papers than the serious ones put together.
And they do campaign for popular issues, and the safety of children is always a popular issue.
I don't care how much the tabloids carry on about the sex lives of soap stars and minor royalty, if it pays the rent and keeps the paper in business then that's fine by me.

Dave

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#82945 - 04/01/05 12:41 AM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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I had to dash off earlier, so I didn't get a chance to say just how proud of you I am Kirk, what you did was inspirational.

Thank you for being such a good friend.

Dave

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#82946 - 04/01/05 01:01 AM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/hardtalk/3567653.stm

This is kings lawyer, what else is there to say ????

Dave

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#82947 - 04/01/05 01:12 AM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Kirk, you and your family are in my thoughts.
I'm glad that experience was empowering for you.

Be good to yourself
SAR


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#82948 - 04/01/05 05:18 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Dear Kirk

My thoughts are with you and I would like to quote my uncle's response when I told him the judge dropped the case about my father:
"Don't worry, the universe has not forgotten and justice is on its way".
It is truly amazing what you said and you stood up a second time to tell him you are not his victim anymore. You must feel so proud and empowered. I am shocked by the man's perversity and audacity. I hope the boycott is going to spread. Needless to say I am shocked that as always, whatever the country, pedocriminals are released half way through their terms.
Have you thought of celebrating your courage ?
I am with you
Hugs
Caro

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#82949 - 04/01/05 08:06 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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I am now a "poor, sad, old man" according to Kings latest posting on his website. However I do feel older than my 49 years years but I am certainly not poor I am a lot richer than he will ever be and that is not in material things. I have now my self respect back and that is priceless. After you have read his latest rant I will explain although its in my book Benders why I originally went to the Max Clifford organisation in the first place, here is Kings post:


"Just to let you know that I was delighted to meet Kirk McIntyre, the "whistle blower" as The Sun described him, for the FIRST TIME on Wednesday. As I looked into this poor, sad old man's eyes I knew for certain that he, too, knew that we both knew we had NEVER MET before. By the clue that most genuinely traumatised people, even after 35 years, do NOT go first to MAX CLIFFORD for psychological relief, you can guess what his motives were. And why he's suddenly waived his anonymity. MAX has a lot to answer for, as The Hamiltons will testify. I do hope that someone from his own murky past realises that, despite the trauma of finally revealing Clifford's behaviour from years ago, there may be compensation, sympathy and a great deal of cash in letting us all know if MAX was a naughty boy when he worked for SYD GILLINGHAM decades ago. But, as Max himself would rightly say, only if it's true. We don't want anyone making false allegations just because there are hundreds of thousands of pounds available, as I'm sure MAX told Nadine Milroy Sloane. But if there ARE such victims of MAX's past, they need to deal with their trauma in a very specific way, the CLIFFORD way, a tried and tested method of getting results. He may be evil but he's also the best, as they say about Satan".

After reading that Chris Denning had been arrested in Europe I decided to contact Max clifford for two reasons and two reasons only the first being to find out if other boys had come forward with regards the paedophilic activities of Chris Denning, Rob Randall and Jonathan King plus one other I cannot name because of legal reasons. the second reason was because Max clifford lives on the border of Walton On Thames and Weybridge where most of the assualts on me took place and as the Walton Hop teen disco was linked to entertainment I thought Max Clifford may have heard something on the jungle telegraph as I really didnt want to go through this on my own.

I have absoloutly nothing to hide whereas Jonathan King does.

Bloody hell I am beginning to sound like him, frontal labotomy needed I think.

I have also just set up an online petitition to have Jonathan King removed from the British Phonographic Industry "Man Of The Year" list for 1997, if you wish to sign it please go to:

http://www.petitiononline.com/27121955/petition-sign.html?

Please ask your family, friends and buisness aquantencies to sign as well

Or you can link to that petition site via my blog which is:
http://www.20six.co.uk/benders2

Kirk


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#82950 - 04/01/05 09:06 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Kirk,

I started this thread, and it sickens me to think what has gone on, and is going on, in this Country.

I will buy your book, as soon as it is available, this whole episode is frightening. This serial pedophile, turns everything around to suit his pathetic dented ego trip.

I would send the text that you quote here, to every paper in the UK. He needs to be hit from so many sides that he caves in, and dont worry, he will, because he is shallow and evil.

When he is hit so many negative blows, then he will cave in, but watch out for his lawyer, he looks like a gangland hit-man.

You are courageous in facing this monster, and I hope it does not stop there.

He should never have been let out, to prey on young boys, and it wont be long before he is back to his old ways, and more kids.

I hope you can keep your spirits up, in this matter, I know it is hard, very hard, but be strong, I will be thinking of you, and good thoughts for what you did,

Peace and Goodwill,

ste

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#82951 - 04/04/05 09:51 AM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Here is Richard Stotts reply I recieved this morning:

"Thank you for your e mail. It is refreshing at least that you accept your
later alcohol and other problems were not caused by underage abuse. Nor do
I suggest that it was easy for you - what I was saying that it is easy for
people to come forward and retrospectively claim their lives have been
ruined. As I am sure you are aware there have been a number of cases where
false accusations have been made by people who in the first instance fooled
the police with their claims. Of course I am not suggesting you are such a
person and it is clear King did commit the offences. Nonetheless it is true
that a number of the young men - I have no way of knowing if you were one
of them - who accepted him, his presents, his friendship as well as
underage sex. In this they are not alone, it was a normal part of sixties
pop culture. However reprehensible, it was not seen in that way at the
time. I appreciate and understand your feelings about this, but justice is
not justice if it is not dispensed properly even in the most difficult and
unpleasant of cases. Best wishes".

I for one was not showered with presents etc as i was pimped to King by Chris Denning (so there was no need for presents) just as King pimped boys back to Denning plus I never ever returned to kings house again although he maintains that we ALL did.

Thought you guys would like to know that I have started an online petition to get King removed from the BPI (British Phonographic Industry) "Man Of The Year" for 1997. The petition can be found here:

http://www.petitiononline.com/27121955/petition-sign.html?

Or you can find a link on my blog site which is:

http://www.20six.co.uk/benders2

Please ask you family and friends to sign ... ... Thankyou

Have a good day all

Kirk


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#82952 - 04/04/05 01:08 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Jasper Gerard, makes a far more responsible view of the king of perversity.

Make sure you read page 2, I really wish he could stand at election, the interview finally sees the cracks appearing.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2092-1551820_2,00.html

I am now going to wash my hands.

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#82953 - 04/04/05 01:16 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Reality

I read that interview in The Times and I agree with you 100% the cracks are beginning to show, but I knew that all along anyway.

Give him enough rope and he will hang himself hopefully.

Kirk


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#82954 - 04/05/05 01:12 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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This link is the best I have found so far,

King of shits,

http://www.justramit.co.uk/justramit-287.htm

NJoy

ste

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#82955 - 04/07/05 11:40 AM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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I had the pleasure of meeting David Blunkett yesterday and I passed the following letter on to him:

Dear Mr Blunkett.

Firstly. As a survivor of Jonathan King’s sexual abuse and the original whistle blower to his perverted activities, I would like to know how this government is going to tackle the problem of paedophiles and haebophiles living within the community.

Secondly. The Crown Prosecution Service appears to have no idea what it is like to be called as a prosecution witness to give evidence. I was called to appear at King's trial but because he was found guilty unanimously by the first trial jury, the remaining twenty prosecution witnesses were left high and dry, without an explanation. I was given no advice as to what my accusation would be doing all I was told by the police is that my accusations would lay on file I had to find out for myself what this actually meant. This happened to me not once but twice as another trail I was involved with of another of my abusers also caught within the operation to investigate King. This abuser held his hand up to a lesser charge and therefore the Crown decided to just go with that conviction once more leaving the prosecution witnesses out in the cold yet again. I have heard recently that the CPS are not concerned with justice for victim’s only convictions and hitting government targets. From my experiences I have to agree. How this can be justice is far beyond me.

Mr Blunkett you have spoken to the residents of the Meole Brace estate about anti-social behaviour and I have to say I was very anti social for about thirty years whilst a practicing alcoholic and drug addict. I have been homeless, I have begged, I have been a “Rent Boy” and I have been found drunk in more places than I care to remember I have also two convictions for domestic violence and others beside. I have also been a bully myself trying to hide the fact that I maybe gay or as all of my abusers told me “very likely bisexual” this caused many, many years of confusion and very nearly cost me my life as I have attempted suicide three time but was usually too drunk to succeed. However I eventually got sober in 1994, entered education again as I was expelled from school for defending myself from a bully of a teacher. I eventually gained a BA in archaeology in 2001; however it was an Aegrotat degree as I had a mental breakdown just before sitting my final year exams.

Myself as a survivor of Childhood Sexual Abuse feel very much forgotten as far as this government is concerned we have to rely on charities to help us through the crisis that we all go through when about to disclose, some of these charities have unqualified therapists because there is not enough money to employ professionals and this could prove fatal for the person being counselled we also get no help from the mental health service as we are looked upon with contempt.

If I am a typical survivor which I believe I am there are thousands of me perhaps hundreds of thousands that have no representation within parliament as I am not aware of any politicians that have been abused in childhood, if there are they are keeping quiet about it through shame, that is what kept me quiet for so many years. I now know different.

Do something about the primary problem of paedophile/haebophiles and maybe society will begin to see anti social behaviour begin to decrease.

Please take up the cause of the adult survivor of Childhood Sexual Abuse as we feel we are on our own and need someone to stand up for us.

Mr Blunkett CSA not only destroys dreams but it destroys lives and families. In the last year I know of four survivors who had enough and took their own lives such is the stigma of being abused.

If you require further information on Childhood sexual Abuse and its impact on society please do not hesitate to contact me. My phone number if you wish to call me is ***** ******

Thank you for your time


Yours Sincerely

I have also sent one to Tony Blair with the letter to David Blunkett enclosed and thgis one read:

Tony Blair PM. MP
10, Downing Street
London
SW1A 2AA

7th April 2005

Dear Mr Blair.

I had the pleasure of meeting with David Blunkett this afternoon where I expressed my concerns at the lack of action with regard paedophiles/haebophiles living within the community.

I have enclosed a letter I passed on to Mr Blunkett and ask the same questions of you.

Mr Blair you may have put more money into Victim Support. However Victim Support do not have the expertise to handle victims of childhood sexual abuse even when they are adults, this needs very specialist handling as the victim is usually in such an emotional state that one wrong word could push them over the edge. I have lost four fellow survivors this last year because there was no support out there for them, they all took their own lives and the three of them were in their mid forties, that is a very long time to live with those type of memories.

As you will see from the enclosed letter I was the whistle blower with regards Jonathan Kings sexual perversions but I never got my day in court and so missed out on any sense of closure, why was this? Because the Crown Prosecution Service seems more interested in obtaining a conviction whereas any justice for the victims disappears entirely, there was no say for the remaining prosecution witnesses; we are just there to aid a conviction, as I say in my letter to Mr. Blunkett that happened to me not once but twice. Is this justice? I think not. Jonathan King got out after three years five months the survivors of his sexual abuse have a life sentence. How did the Parole Board release him on licence? When they state on their own website:

Home Secretary’s directions to the Parole Board issued under section Section 32(6) of the Criminal Justice Act 1991 where it states:

2. Before recommending release on parole license, the Parole Board shall consider:

III). Whether the prisoner has shown by his attitude and behaviour in custody that he is willing to address his offending behaviour by participating in programmes or activities designed to address his risk, and has made positive effort and progress in doing so;

Jonathan King by his own admission has not addressed his offending behaviour and his attitude and behaviour has not changed one iota as was witnessed on his release.

I understand that he is not allowed to move abodes but has done so already moving from his home to the Shepherds Bush Hilton in the early hours of 30/03/2005. I also understand that he is not allowed to a harass his victims but he appears to take no notice of that and continues to ridicule us from his personal website that he managed whilst in Maidstone prison.

However that is not what annoys me. What does annoy me is the total lack of support from central government for resources for survivors of sexual abuse (of any age). The councilling service that is still supporting me receives no financial help whatsoever from central government even after attempting to gain some finances from the National Lottery. They need the money to employ professional therapist, survivors should not have to rely on the voluntary sector as this (and has) could prove fatal in people coming to terms with what has happened to them. Something needs to be done Mr Blair unless you want more dysfunctional adults going and binging every weekend. I was a very anti social person when drinking and that led to male prostitution, drug addiction, domestic violence, crime, five years in differing hospitals both general and psychiatric even receiving Electro Convulsive Therapy in one as it was thought I was clinically depressed after my third suicide attempt. Childhood Sexual Abuse produces dysfunctional children who grow into dysfunctional adults, it’s a vicious circle.

Mr Blair why is it that the British Crime Survey does not publish separate figures of children who have been raped as those figures are somewhat lost in the overall rape total. I have a suspicion that the rate of childhood abuse and rape is rising steadily and you could be blamed for letting down the abused child in this country.

You also say in your government releases that it is “easier to report such crimes”. This is a totally misleading statement and should read that “the government recognises just how difficult it can be to disclose such crimes” even as an adult and it is usually a personal crisis that brings about disclosure as what happened to me. I got sober after thirty plus years of active alcoholism and drug addiction and it was then that my memories started to reveal themselves I had nothing left to suppress them. I went on to get myself an education as I was expelled from school for defending myself against a bullying teacher without a qualification to my name. I went back into education in 1996 and entered university in 1997 when all hell broke loose with the arrest of Gary Glitter that was my trigger. I carried on with my studies but on reading of my original abusers (the ex Radio One deejay Chris Denning) arrest in the Czech Republic for abusing and filming boys as young as ten. At that point the floodgates opened and I suffered yet another breakdown just before sitting my final year exams, I was deeply disappointed as I still feel as though I had failed although the Institute of Archaeology at Birmingham University kindly awarded me an Aegrotat BA. I am one of the lucky one there are thousand and thousands of me out there who may not be as lucky.

I am a floating voter and I will vote for any party that comes up with workable solutions to control highly deviant individuals within our communities. I am afraid the buck stops with you, it is in your power to do something now at least support the services who support us and whose client bases are growing rapidly. Start with compulsory treatment of sex offenders whilst in prison as another paedophile cannot pull the wool over the eyes of another, much like an alcoholic cannot usually fool another alcoholic.

I doubt that you know that Jonathan King has an album coming out in the not too distant future entitled “Sexual Terrorist” and that is exactly what a number of children will be going through tonight when they are being sexually abused.

Please do something now to stop the likes of Ian Huntley and Roy Whiting from destroying another family. At the very least you could start listening to survivors of Childhood Sexual Abuse.

I leave you with a comment from today’s Guardian (07/04/2005) with reference to the new centre for abused children in Manchester.

“The youngest child I have seen at St Mary's was seven months old," Cath White, the centre's clinical director, said. "The numbers are going up and we think they will go up even more”.

It is very important that this scheme now goes nationwide.

I thank you for your time


Yours Sincerely.

Now we have an election date the politician will be on the stump .... .... Grill them when they come knocking .... .... write letters emails etc, swamp them.

You can see me meeting with david Blunkett on my blog and that can be founfd here at:

http://www.20six.co.uk/benders2

Cheers

Kirk


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#82956 - 04/07/05 07:34 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Registered: 10/26/02
Posts: 343
Loc: United Kingdom
Hi

I have just posted an email to Jon Ronosn

Here is what i said

Hello Jon

I have just heard a recordijg of your BBC Ulster interview, I notice on your forum that it was badly edited, in what way was that as you seem to give the impression that having a wank with a mature adult male is ok, remembrer it wasnt just a quick wank with me, some would say it was serious sexual assault I prefer to call it rape.

Is that still acceptable?

While we are about it why dont you sign my petition to get KIng removed from the BPI "man of the year" list, please feel free to give jonathan the web address or you can get it by logging onto my blog.

It sounds old son that you to have been well and truely groomed like your collegues Lynn Barber and Richard Stott, if that can happen to you how what chance did an impressionable teenage boy have?

Best wishes

Kirk

I await his reply

If anyone else fancies dropping him a line here is his eamil address:

jon@jonronson.com


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#82957 - 04/09/05 10:34 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Kirk
You keep banging on those tables, make people listen.

And remember that you are NOT ALONE.

Dave

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#82958 - 04/20/05 09:03 PM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
Archnut Offline
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Registered: 10/26/02
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Loc: United Kingdom
Thought I would give you guys an update.

I have recently been having an email conversation with Jon Ronson the documentary maker, writer and journalist. I posted this on my blog last night, your welcome to visit. Here is last nights posting:

Some words of wisdom with regard to Jonathan King from one of our foremost journalists, Jon Ronson:

"I'll be glad to see him out. 7 years is too long for what he did". 05/02/2005

"Reading it back, it does seem a little long, but there were lots of interesting things to get one's teeth into - the workings of the Old Bailey (I do love hanging around the Old Bailey, which is the main reason why I did the story), the relationship between adults and children, historically, in the music industry, the 'shifting sands of morality', etc, etc.

Apparently JK is walking around prison with a t-shirt that reads "I'm a celebrity get me out of here". Lynn Barber visited him in prison and wrote a brilliant line, something like "all the things that made him irritating on the outside - all that bumptious enthusiasm - seem positivily heroic on the inside."

Anyway, JK writes to me a lot and sends Xmas cards, etc. He is still 100% certain of his innocence, although I never know if that means literally or metaphorically. I don't know how parole boards work, but I wonder if his refusal to admit any kind of guilt will count against him, or if being a model prisoner, which he surely is, is enough to get him released". 06/02/2005

***

It has been a very interesting last few days. After confronting Jonathan King in the Shepherds Bush Hilton. I was asked to take part in some radio interviews, one of these was for BBC Radio Ulster where I would answer the comments made by the writer, documentary maker and Guardian journalist Jon Ronson. I had met Jon through his documentary "The Double Life of Jonathan King" as I had taken part. After the phone in I banged an email off to his forum site, the email read:

Hello Jon

Having took part in the program with you and Steve Nolan, I too felt that my side was poorly edited as I never heard your unedited version maybe you would like to send me a copy then i maybe able to answer you a bit more clearly.

As you have not answered my email I take it you have nothing more to say, but do you think anal sex with a mature adult male is ok as you seem to think that masturbation is fine but as you well know it was not just a quick wank in my case or was that fine too? I was fifteen and very mixed up sexually courtesy of Chris Denning and his cohorts. Was he the one you regarded as evil or very much disturbed? Or was it Randall or the one I cannot mention for legal reasons?

And as for King being treated harshly would you say the same thing if King had done what he did to me to your son?

I see that someone else on this board has plugged my blog site so I will not duplicate it but feel free to sign the petition and that can be found here:

http://www.petitiononline.com/27121955/petition-sign.html?

I bet you wish you had never touched the subject of Childhood Sexual Abuse but it did at least generate some discussion. And it would appear that the majority of Northen Ireland listeners do not agree with you but then again that is the journalists art.

Regards

Kirk

He replied:

Oh Kirk,

You have read my article and seen the film. There's nothing I can do if I put forward both points of view and BBC Northern Ireland clearly decided, even though they said they wouldn't, to cut out the stuff when I was being supportive of the victims and only leave in the stuff where I was saying that this crime occupies a grey area.

Personally, I find it all very annoying, and I'm sorry you felt unfairly edited by them too.

I thin that with the JK case you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. Anyway, you can't say I haven't been supportive of you, cos I have.

I never got an email from you. Maybe you sent it to an address I no longer use. I can't send the tape because it was a phone interview and only they have it. Maybe they can send it to you. Although I bet you they won't because it'll show that they have selectively edited me.

Who was I referring to when I said that one of JK's cohorts was evil? I don't think I should answer that question, although I would say it's clear that each of those Walton Hop men were very strange indeed in their ways. Very.

No, I don't think I would say that about JK if one of the victims had been my son. (But he IS six). Also, I don't think a quick wank is fine. But I do think a quick wank with a fifteen year old doesn't deserve seven years. But, then again, JK didn't get seven years for that. He got seven years for anal sex with Chris Sealey.

Anyway, I hope all is well with you. I shivered a little when I heard reported that JK had said he had no idea who you were. Is that true? Is that what he said?

Jon

Something very, very interesting in that last paragraph all to do with shivers.

I sent him this:

Hi Jon

Yes King did say that.

As you know I confronted him with the help of The Sun in the Shepherds Bush Hilton, we had to hang about for a bit of a while in the underground car park. He was filming upstairs a fly on the wall documentary when one of the journalsits got to hear from the inside that they were going off to Hyde Park to do some stills. They returned within fifteen minutes. I was reintroduced to King by name and then King said "yes I'm well aware who his is .... but I have never met him before in my life".

I said my piece to him and that was that I seized back the power he had held over me for the last thirty five years. If you want the full story youll have to drop me a line at kirkmc@hotmail.com.

Jon. Sexual abuse happens to six year olds as well I hope your lad doesnt get hoodwinked by some higly devient individual.

I may well contact BBC Radio Ulster, I have their number and contact name.

Regards

Kirk

I then sent him this email:

Jon

I'm curious:

"I shivered a little when I heard reported that JK had said he had no idea who you were".

Make you break out in a shiver, what could you possibly mean?

New Blog Address:
Http://www.20six.co.uk/DanDare2

Feel free to drop me an email at kirkmc@hotmail.com.

Regards

Kirk

And I received this last night:

"I just meant that it seemed very duplicitous of JK to deny ever having met you, when we both know that he did".

Very important word is "duplicitous"

That shiver I suspect was caused by the fact that Jon Ronson has just realised he has been well and truely groomed. Just Like Lynn Barber of the The Observer and Richard Stott of the Sunday Mirror

What do you think?

I have also learnt in the last few days that the guys that were also abused by King (and the others) do not hold it against me for coming forward, infact most if not all said that it had been a sort of relief, but I still know that there are other guys from Walton on Thames still walking round with that terrible secret. Most proberbly even their wives dont know. That is one hell of a place to be in.

I admire them in some ways. But in others I do pity them but I can certainly empathise with them ... ... If only they knew how sweet life can be without those continuous doubts about ourselves.

Disclosure is the most powerful weapon a survivor has, as at that minute of telling someone, the chains fall off and nothing is ever quite the same again. Your free and then the bloody hard works starts.

Take it easy

Kirk


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#82959 - 05/02/05 02:58 AM Re: This makes ME Angry!!!
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Registered: 12/20/04
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Loc: Philadelphia, PA
Makes me angry, too! Once again, this country shows its IGNORANCE to the problem by ENABLING them. It's ashame that the recent deaths of children in Florida, have to be a BEACON of enlightenment to this SCREWED UP system. Whats the deal???

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