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#81030 - 01/20/03 08:57 AM No Words
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This poem was written by me around 8 yrs ago.
it was printed in a book In Cabin Six Edt. by Jill Kuhn.

NO WORDS

There are no words to
describe my pain
explain how I feel.
Tell you I'm hurting

There are no feelings
left in my body
they all left
The day you hurt me.

There are no tears
to be shead
because there are
No words inside me.

No words only numbness
Feelings severed from my body
Ripped from my soul
By your bare hands.

By M. Joseph

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#81031 - 01/20/03 10:00 AM Re: No Words
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MJ, I haven't read "In Cabin Six," but I've read excerpts from it, and "No Words" sounds familiar. Kinda describes some feelings I can empathize with but have trouble putting into words...

Victor

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#81032 - 04/03/03 08:37 PM Re: No Words
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Vic glad you could relate, most might be able to relate to No words.

I sure can. There was noone to turn to, and what would I say.

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#81033 - 06/22/03 12:08 AM Re: No Words
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I am trying to figure out what it is I have to say now. I am not to be pushed around. I only get what I want to have happpen. You can not make me do things anymore.

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#81034 - 07/06/03 03:19 AM Re: No Words
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This poem is a powerful de>
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#81035 - 07/06/03 05:22 AM Re: No Words
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Thanks for sharing Michael..strong words.
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#81036 - 08/06/03 03:29 AM Re: No Words
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There are no words due to fear. The fear that worse things will happen if we tell. The fear that noone will like us if we tell. We will be
branded with the letters SA.

In responce to what the father figure did after my dad died.

I did not know what to say the next day riding in the car home. Neither did he. There really was nothing he could say, he was wrong.

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#81037 - 08/06/03 05:03 AM Re: No Words
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You got that right michael, he was wrong.

((((((michael))))))

Bill

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#81038 - 08/06/03 08:37 AM Re: No Words
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Michael: I feel your pain. Yes he was wrong and you did not deserve it. Did he say nothing out of shame or did he feel there was nothing to be ashamed about. Think about how old your were Mike and how vulnerable. God they are all monsters.

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#81039 - 08/06/03 09:33 AM Re: No Words
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Thanks guys,

I still need the group hug. Not sure if I am going to MN, but plan on going to Toronto.
I want to contine to grow. I want to work on this stuff so I can live life instead of repeating it over and over. There was nothing that I did wrong. Nothing. It is his prison.

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#81040 - 12/12/05 02:04 AM Re: No Words
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It is too bad that stuff that causes me to write a poem like this makes us come togther.

It is my hope that we will start to create memories that are better, happier, and wonderful to make up for all that crap we went through.

Help the younger children have words to use.
Help the adults believe what the children say and keep them safe.

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#81041 - 12/14/05 11:17 AM Re: No Words
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Michael,

I agree entirely. The kids need our support so badly, and they are, after all, US as we were years ago, but feeling the silence you so painfully desribe here:

Quote:
No words only numbness
feelings severed from my body
When I was a kid I thought of this as "going into zombie mode".

Much love,
Larry

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#81042 - 01/07/06 07:15 AM Re: No Words
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Kids need support

so do young adults

and so do adults

we all do

I do too

love mj

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#81043 - 01/07/06 12:43 PM Re: No Words
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I remember feeling there's no place to go. I went to work and slept outside . D

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#81044 - 01/07/06 12:44 PM Re: No Words
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I was a bus-boy

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#81045 - 01/07/06 04:22 PM Re: No Words
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Hugs Dewey

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#81046 - 02/26/06 06:48 AM Re: No Words
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.................................................

NO

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#81047 - 05/08/06 03:15 AM Re: No Words
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I will never be silent again

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#81048 - 05/08/06 05:18 PM Re: No Words
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Michael,

Six electrifying words. That silence was what made the abusers powerful in the past. Now our rejection of the silence will empower US.

Much love,
Larry

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#81049 - 05/08/06 05:23 PM Re: No Words
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there are four words but they are the hardest to belive , your not to blame. shadow

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#81050 - 05/08/06 05:29 PM Re: No Words
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Adam,

You are so right. But here it comes again, for Little Adam this time: You are not to blame.

Much love,
Larry

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#81051 - 05/15/06 04:48 PM Re: No Words
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M Joseph.
I just found the exhistance of the Cabin Six poem book. I plan on getting a copy sometime.
Poetry has been very healing in my life.
I liked your poem.
Thanks for posting it...long ago. 2003
It continues to impact us all.

Smiles

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#81052 - 05/15/06 04:50 PM Re: No Words
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then read you bastard they are both in the book, plus both copies of the book are lost, I would like to know where I can get another let me know

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#81053 - 08/11/06 04:06 AM Re: No Words
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The emotions one has due to abuse is immense, and the friends we find to help must help patch up everything that was done.

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#354726 - 02/24/11 07:19 PM Re: No Words [Re: michael Joseph]
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I went looking for this after posting it on the chat.

Hugs to all of you who once had no words and now you
have many words to offer the world so others understand

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