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#72712 - 08/24/04 10:23 PM Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner
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How do you guys react and respond to:

"Hate the sin, love the sinner"?


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#72713 - 08/24/04 10:34 PM Re: Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner
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Quote:
Originally posted by jimrh:
How do you guys react and respond to:

"Hate the sin, love the sinner"?
Hate the expression; don't respect the misguided point of view \:\)

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#72714 - 08/24/04 11:46 PM Re: Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner
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The Lord says, "I will save the one who loves me.
I will keep him safe, because he trusts in me.
He will call out to me, and I will answer him.
I will be with him in times of trouble.
I will save him and honor him.
I will give him a long and full life.
I will save him.
Psalms 91:14:16
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Moses lifted up the snake in the desert. The Son of Man must be lifted up also. Then everyone who believes in him can live with God forever. God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son. Anyone who believes in him will not die but will have eternal life. God did not send his Son into the world to judge the world. He sent his Son to save the world through him. Anyone who believes in him is not judged. But anyone who does not believe is judged already. He has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
John 3:16-18
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We accept the witness of people. But the witness of God is more important because it is God who gives it. He has given witness about his Son. Those who believe in the Son of God have accepted that witness in their hearts. Those who do not believe God's witness are calling him a liar. That's because they ahve not believed his witness about his Son. Here is God's witness. He has given us eternal life. That life is found in his Son. Those who belong to the Son have life. Those who do not belong to the Son of God do not have life. I'm writing these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God. I'm doing it so you will know that you have eternal life.
1John 5:9-13
The beauty of it all is it is unconditional, and it is yours for the asking.... and it has nothing to do with man's judgements of you.

God loves you, Jim, and so do I. Look to Him for guidance and direction and the judgements of this world will fall away from the gavel.

~Yves

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#72715 - 08/25/04 12:14 AM Re: Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner
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#72716 - 08/25/04 12:23 AM Re: Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner
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I think it depends on the true feelings that are behind the phrase when it is expressed that matters. I'm a sinner (yes, I lie, do bad things, etc.), and I hate my sin as well. This phrase has been turned into an unfortunate way for some people to feel good about themselves with gays. I have a lot of self-image problems, so I certainly can't sit in judgment of anyone.

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#72717 - 08/25/04 01:19 AM Re: Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner
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Hey, Guys, it's David.

I hope that I haven't upset anyone by putting this here. I want to comment about this because of the explosive nature of this, pardon me, stupid saying. I've had a long running feud with this and if some of you are up late tonight, I'll be giving my "sermon" on this one.

David

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#72718 - 08/25/04 01:26 AM Re: Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner
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why the %&*# was this moved??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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#72719 - 08/25/04 02:15 AM Re: Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner
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I wanna hear the sermon and this better be good and there better be a good reason for moving it away from the Gay Survivors Room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Edited to remove a few of the "!" to reduce the width of the displayed post.


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#72720 - 08/25/04 02:28 AM Re: Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner
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David, my post was intended for GAY SURVIVORS.


Why the HELL did you move it to this stupid spirituality room@!Q@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@22


What power trip do you think you are on?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111


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#72721 - 08/25/04 06:42 AM Re: Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner
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Jim,

I'm apologizing for moving this without your permission. I thought that it would fit better in the Spirituality area...not realizing, of course, that you were purposely wanting to get a response here.

David

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