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#72423 - 05/23/04 07:33 PM Re: So what now?
yesac76 Offline

Registered: 03/23/04
Posts: 508
Loc: Idaho
I do not even know who I am. I am still looking for me, so at least you know who you are!
Just remember you are strong!

"You live it or lie it" Metallica

#72424 - 05/23/04 09:03 PM Re: So what now?
Mike Church Offline
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Registered: 01/23/03
Posts: 3439
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Marc you are my brother and a survivor and a gentle man. That is enough for me. Just be who you are and are comfortable with. Dont use labels ok.



#72425 - 05/24/04 01:47 AM Re: So what now?
Stephen_5 Offline
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Registered: 09/12/00
Posts: 667
Loc: Northern California Foothills

I'm pretty happy with who I am right now. I really don't know what to label myself and it doesn't matter too much to me anymore. It's taken a long time for me to get here.

Be easy on yourself Marc,


I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center.
Kurt Vonnegut (1922-2007)

#72426 - 05/26/04 10:12 AM Re: So what now?
abcd Offline

Registered: 10/20/00
Posts: 189
Loc: GA
Hey SoCal_Marc,

Just a quick note to say "yeah"...until about a couple years ago (wow, it was that long ago now), I had a really tough time separating the two issues. I confused them together, and now I separated them, partly with a therapist, and partly with just personal prayer and reflection (and partly realizing how much more in love I am now that I with a guy than with a girl).

In the end, its great now to have reconciled everything--including with my faith. So yeah, I had problems with it for many years, but now it makes perfect sense--I mean really, not all people who were abused are gay and not all people who are gay were what ever was I thinking?! Nah, I know it's more complicated than that, but I think you know what I'm saying. Good luck.

#72427 - 05/26/04 11:05 AM Re: So what now?
Dale English Offline
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Registered: 06/08/03
Posts: 448
Loc: PA
Hi Marc,

Self acceptance is such a core issue for us all and I believe it's even a bit more difficult for us gay souls because of how we are perceived and treated by the majority of human beings we share this planet with. How are we supposed to "love" being what so many "hate"? Who among us, in the beginning at least, would have "chosen" to be gay? We need other brothers and sisters who can sit with us as we go through this process, believing in us until we can do that for ourselves.

Your brothers here love who you are and love you just the way you are. That's what loving is. There are no conditions. Marc is Marc no matter who he loves. The world is truly a better place simply because Marc does love. We all thank you for that!


#72428 - 06/15/04 08:10 AM Re: So what now?
Captain Offline
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Registered: 06/07/04
Posts: 9
Loc: New Zealand
Marc, I won't say much other than this... Don't worry about not being involved with Gay Pride - as a heterosexual man, I don't feel the need to start a 'Hetero Pride' movement, so if you truly are comfortable with your status, then there can be no need to parade about demanding acceptance.

I'm new, is there anywhere tou have put your story here?

Take care,

"Better to die on your feet than live on your knees." - Midnight Oil, from "Power and Passion"


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