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#71270 - 01/20/07 02:45 AM Re: how to deal with homophobes, hate-speech, agression?
Jarrad Offline
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Registered: 10/27/06
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its all in context. thats not the point of the post. you guys are older.. there is a generation gap. its cool. i still use it. it is still fine with me.


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#71271 - 01/20/07 03:06 AM Re: how to deal with homophobes, hate-speech, agression?
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It's not so much the word, it's the intention behind it. That kid was trying to yank my chain, intimidate me, look cool in front of his friends, or whatever.

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#71272 - 01/20/07 04:10 AM Re: how to deal with homophobes, hate-speech, agression?
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i think if i was gay and another gay person called me faggot it would have a whole different meaning than if a straight person said it ,its just like blacks and the n word its cool to call each other that but dont let a white guy say it. its more whose saying it than whats being said .like i said i didnt know what the word meant but i knew it was bad just by the way my dad said it ,or at least in his pea brain it was bad .

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#140729 - 02/08/07 10:19 AM Re: how to deal with homophobes, hate-speech, agression? [Re: Koveri]
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What is worse is when we use it on ourselves after having the word faggot said to us so many times. There is nothing wrong with sexual orientation it just is what it is. I am a strong homosapian (sp) just like the rest of you.

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#140757 - 02/08/07 02:51 PM Re: how to deal with homophobes, hate-speech, agression? [Re: michael Joseph]
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People can be very cruel. It never ceases to amaze me the lengths that some Adults will go to avoid growing up. Hate speech and bigoted jargon are telltale signs of a limited mind. When someone talks to me, who has a limited mind, I do not retain any information they convey, because it is far more often than not, useless.


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#140868 - 02/09/07 01:58 PM Re: how to deal with homophobes, hate-speech, agression? [Re: philobat]
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so true people can be extreamly mean,
it is too bad too cuz love is always
a better thing than hate and misery

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#141213 - 02/12/07 12:57 AM Re: how to deal with homophobes, hate-speech, agre [Re: Galapogos]
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Hi Galapogos and company, hope you don't mind me coming here. I am going to guess that something about how you walked, or how you held your self caught their eye. It was off just enough, and that boy decided to challenge you on it. A while back I posted a link that I felt explained how homophobic develops. I never did get much discussion on it, I didn't post it on this forum as I was afraid you guys would take offence. Feel free to read it, and leave your comments. Homophobia and masculinities among young men

Take care,
Clifford

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#141600 - 02/14/07 03:31 PM Re: how to deal with homophobes, hate-speech, agression? [Re: Koveri]
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Registered: 12/24/06
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Hey Guys,

Why worry about being called a "fag" (fag = Fabulous and Gay). You could always use that against the people who call you that.

Duncan

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#141921 - 02/16/07 08:55 PM Re: how to deal with homophobes, hate-speech, agression? [Re: duncanUK]
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Registered: 01/07/07
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Loc: Australia
Galapogos, maybe you can move, like Mark said, or better yet, take a holiday to the obvious place - The Galapogos, an uninhabited nature reserve in the middle of the ocean.

See I used to get hassled by girls, gangs of them. I grew up in a rough area and that was what I had to deal with and even though I suppose other men would have found the attetnion flattering, to me it was horrible. I'd go into panic attacks every time I saw a group of teenage girls.

I don't think it has anything to do with being gay. Cos I'm straight and people seem to know that, but it doesn't stop certain of them from victimising me. Is it any coincidence that I was abused by women, I think not. It might not be that you are gay, but you wear something about your character that says you were abused by a man perhaps?

A lot of people burned and destroyed a lot of other people, and still do in some places. If you want to talk to someone who really knows a lot about gays and different cultures PM Koveri, he'll take you to school. Every time I meet him in the chat I learn a whole new side to the world of gay people and specifically how it differs all over the world. One cultures 'Faggot' is anothers institution.

* Did you know in Afganistan nearly all tribal men, and especially elders have a gay lover? These are the people who are supporting the Taliban (or someone else depending on what day it is) - with the right political spin they could claim they were being persecuted for their sexual orientation too!

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