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#69853 - 02/15/06 06:13 PM Re: What does it mean?
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:p

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#69854 - 02/15/06 10:17 PM Re: What does it mean?
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It was interesting to see this post, I started a similar thread awhile back, 'what does it mean to be gay'? outside of physical attraction. I don't think there's a definitive answer.

Once I chatted with a guy online for awhile about being gay. He emailed me a sort of gay cliffs notes. It included a list of movies to rent ("All About Eve" "Stepford Wives" etc) books to read on art, design, fashion, etc, music to buy, where to get clothes, etc. It was pretty specfic, but I couldn't really relate to it. Judy Garland?? Okay, she had a nice voice, but I don't get the fascination.

And, yes, I've read up on gay history, Stonewall, etc. I get that drag queens were on the frontlines at the time because they were so visible. But (today) I can't relate to the drag queen dressed as a nun with a strap-on dildo riding in the pride parade. I understand they may be expressing who they are, and their feelings toward organized religion, but it seems juvenile.

I think the definition of gay culture, and gay identity, keeps changing over time, if it can be defined at all.

(David Souter, really? ---Also, Sulu, er George Takei, came out recently)

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#69855 - 02/15/06 10:24 PM Re: What does it mean?
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Re-reading my post it sounds like a rant about drag queens. Sorry if it came across that way. I think if you had gay men from different generations define gay culture you'd get different de>
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#69856 - 02/15/06 11:24 PM Re: What does it mean?
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Galapogos,

Good ramble. Thanks.

John

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#69857 - 02/16/06 01:45 AM Re: What does it mean?
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another cool thing about Canada
besides - gau marriage -

OUT TV - the gay channel - nobody really watches -it's struggling because - gay life is so integrated and normal - there isn't the need for that here -

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#69858 - 02/16/06 01:46 AM Re: What does it mean?
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'gay marriage'

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#69859 - 02/16/06 01:48 AM Re: What does it mean?
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also - i am proud - approximately 1/5th the population is gay and lesbian! \:\)

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#69860 - 02/16/06 01:49 AM Re: What does it mean?
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around 600,000!

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#69861 - 02/16/06 01:49 AM Re: What does it mean?
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I think - I could be wrong - I am tired - and I am taking this thread to a weird place -whoops
mistake

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