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#5829 - 02/12/03 11:28 PM Re: About the retreat
ScottyTodd Offline
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Registered: 02/12/03
Posts: 1561
Loc: Pennsylvania
Quote:
Originally posted by Don-NY:
To write about the retreat in detail would take much away from it. It is a journey and a process and an unfolding and a joining, both inward and outward, which occurs among and because of the company of other survivors.

There were tears and laughter. There was total respect and unconditional acceptance, even during a disagreement.

This was not an artificial, hothouse environment of good vibes, political correctness, new age feel good dogma, or value-free psycho-babble.

This was 45 human beings being as authentic, vulnerable, passionate, and compassionate as they were able to be. As the hours passed, you could see these qualities grow and spread.

I agree with what KenF has said above. And I will also answer any specific questions you may have as best as I can.

In closing, I'm pasting below something I wrote on my evaluation of the retreat (with one line added here). This is in response to the question, "What would you say to someone who was trying to decide whether to register for a retreat?"

Advice to potential participants:
Go.
Go when you feel you are ready.
Go if someone you trust feels you are ready.
If the opportunity and the means coincide, go even if you feel you are not quite ready.
Go if you feel you are stuck and need something to get you moving again.
You will be helped and you will help.
You will hear and recognize your own self, your own life, your hopes and your fears in the faces and postures and words of your fellows, and they in yours.
You will finally know, in a way beyond thought, that you are not alone.
You have nothing real to fear, and much to gain.
Just go.
You deserve to and you need to.
Go for yourself and for the other men who will be there.

Peace to you all,
Donald
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You can be Captain of your Ship, but not of the Sea


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If you think you can or you can't - you're right!.......anon
It's never too late to have a happy childhood!.....anon
You're very normal for the abnormal situation you've been through..............S. Todd

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#5830 - 02/12/03 11:35 PM Re: About the retreat
ScottyTodd Offline
Administrator Emeritus
MaleSurvivor
Registered: 02/12/03
Posts: 1561
Loc: Pennsylvania
Quote:
Originally posted by Don-NY:
To write about the retreat in detail would take much away from it. It is a journey and a process and an unfolding and a joining, both inward and outward, which occurs among and because of the company of other survivors.

There were tears and laughter. There was total respect and unconditional acceptance, even during a disagreement.

This was not an artificial, hothouse environment of good vibes, political correctness, new age feel good dogma, or value-free psycho-babble.

This was 45 human beings being as authentic, vulnerable, passionate, and compassionate as they were able to be. As the hours passed, you could see these qualities grow and spread.

I agree with what KenF has said above. And I will also answer any specific questions you may have as best as I can.

In closing, I'm pasting below something I wrote on my evaluation of the retreat (with one line added here). This is in response to the question, "What would you say to someone who was trying to decide whether to register for a retreat?"

Advice to potential participants:
Go.
Go when you feel you are ready.
Go if someone you trust feels you are ready.
If the opportunity and the means coincide, go even if you feel you are not quite ready.
Go if you feel you are stuck and need something to get you moving again.
You will be helped and you will help.
You will hear and recognize your own self, your own life, your hopes and your fears in the faces and postures and words of your fellows, and they in yours.
You will finally know, in a way beyond thought, that you are not alone.
You have nothing real to fear, and much to gain.
Just go.
You deserve to and you need to.
Go for yourself and for the other men who will be there.

Peace to you all,
Donald
******************************************
You can be Captain of your Ship, but not of the Sea
I came across your retreat eval and it answered the questions I have as a new member. I wanted to attend either April or Mays retreat and feel more encouraged to do so! By the way, I really love the sentiment and power of the quote you used about our Ship!! I learn more from simple phrases and know I will use that phrase many times! Sorry about the other post - I am not as quick at computer literacy as I want to be!
Scotty \:\)

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If you think you can or you can't - you're right!.......anon
It's never too late to have a happy childhood!.....anon
You're very normal for the abnormal situation you've been through..............S. Todd

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#5831 - 02/13/03 02:22 AM Re: About the retreat
Chey-Wy Offline
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MaleSurvivor

Registered: 09/01/02
Posts: 241
Loc: Cheyenne, WY
I really want to attend the retreat. Unfortunately, finances are not the best right now. All my sapre money .... and then some ... is going for attorney bills. What doesn't go for attorney bills goes for Insurance ( it just jumped to $575.00/month) and only pays $30.00/visit --30 visits per year for psychiatric. Oh and a $1,000 Deductable. Anyone know where I can find a T for $30.00 a visit. What a joke. Also, pays minimal for meds.

I did receive a plane ticket to Phoenix two years ago for Christmas .... and I can cash it in on a ticket to the retreat. United would charge me $75.00 to do this ... but that would help out with the air fare.

That is the joy of owning a seasonal business. ( small landscaping) When I have the money I can't the time away to do things. When I don't have the money, I can take the time off from work. Actually. I think that the retreat would be good for me. While it would be work, it would be a vacation .... something I haven't had for 15 years.

I did ask my mother if I could borrow the money from her for the reqistration. That was a stupid thing to do. I keep forgetting that she is the one that tells me

"It's (the S A) is your problem .... deal with it."

The first part of April would work great with my schedule. I don't get busy at work until the 15th.

I hope that everyone that goes to the retreat has a very healing experience.

Someday I hope to be there with you.

John

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From the Song MOUNTAINS by Lonestar.

Yeah, the good Lord gave us mountains,
So we could learn how to climb

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