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#50818 - 12/05/06 07:37 PM hospitals
Trevor Offline
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Registered: 06/05/06
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Loc: Rhode Island
hospitals suck
evrytime i go in there
they make it seem like
evrything is my fault
an if i just take my
medicine an do what they
say then evrything will
be better. but its nevr
really better. and they
dont even bothr to ask me
why i am like i am in the
first place. they just
wanna fix me but they dont
even know whats broke!

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#50819 - 12/05/06 07:50 PM Re: hospitals
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Trev,

I totally agree with you. I just got out yesterday. It's the same old crap in there. Go to groups, eat and talk to other patients. I'm done with going to hospitals unless its some kind of long term care place for a month or two where I can really address my issues. I tell the docs about whats going on but they just don't seem to know what type of care I need. I also like the fact when they ask me what I think I need and tell them. Then they suggest something else. My psychiatrist asked what meds he thinks I should be on and then I discussed his zodiac sign with him. Now he believes in the zodiac signs. Shit, I wrote my own pre>

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#50820 - 12/05/06 08:13 PM Re: hospitals
Trevor Offline
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Registered: 06/05/06
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Loc: Rhode Island
no shit
and the stupid nurses
come in an wake u up
in the middle of the nite
to give u sleeping
pills like what kind of
fucking sense does that
make?
the first time i ever got
sent in aftr i tried to
kill myself one of the doctrs
actualy asked me if i was
sucidal. wtf?

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#50821 - 12/05/06 08:29 PM Re: hospitals
reality2k4 Offline
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Trevor, no chance of them ever knowing.
None of the docs I have seen know fuck all, nor do psyche docs.

At least you have these guys to turn to, they know more than all the docs put together :p

ste

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#50822 - 12/05/06 08:49 PM Re: hospitals
Trevor Offline
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Posts: 778
Loc: Rhode Island
ya thats tru
nobody else i
know gives a shit
thats 4 sure.
the 2nd time i was
in a hospital cuz
i went crazy the security
dudes there were fucking
mean. ther was this othr
guy who i shared a room
with and he kept pissing
his bed cuz he was scared
i guess and like evrytime somebody
yelld at him he would piss
himself. sothe security
gard dudes gave him all kinds
of shit and they beat him up
and evrything.
i felt bad 4 him cuz he
couldnt help it but i
didnt act like iw as his
friend eithr
i wondr sometimes wat happend
to him

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#50823 - 12/05/06 09:15 PM Re: hospitals
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Hang on in there, I went to an anxiety management group yesterday and felt like hanging myself.
If it was sooo easy to manage it, I spent all my life trying.

They just brought up loads of hidden anger at their childish approach.

Get real folks, forget it, they will never know,

ste

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#50824 - 12/05/06 09:29 PM Re: hospitals
batcountry Offline
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Registered: 09/20/06
Posts: 263
Loc: the ether
hospitals are there to "help" you, but they dont really help shit. they dont have any idea what they are doing. i dont know about like programs and things so maybe you would have better luck with those like MDR said. but hospitals, forget them.

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#50825 - 12/05/06 09:39 PM Re: hospitals
Trevor Offline
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Registered: 06/05/06
Posts: 778
Loc: Rhode Island
well im all done w
going to hospitals and
seeing dumb ass doctors
anyways

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#50826 - 12/05/06 09:44 PM Re: hospitals
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yeah i hear you man.

also i noticed you got tool lyrics in your sig, they're a great band.

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#50827 - 12/05/06 09:46 PM Re: hospitals
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The only good thing I did learn, is to keep your own mind safe.

Teaching me coping skills I had to learn as a child is no hope, and I will tell them when its over,

ste

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#50828 - 12/05/06 10:03 PM Re: hospitals
Trevor Offline
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Registered: 06/05/06
Posts: 778
Loc: Rhode Island
i love tool
there my favorite
rite now.
i went an saw them
wen they were at the
tweeter center a couple
months ago.
my sister hates them and
she hates all the music
i listen to \:\) i play it
loud an it pisses her
off heehee

all the doctrs out there
can just kiss my ass

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#50829 - 12/05/06 10:17 PM Re: hospitals
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Loc: United States
I bought Opiate back in 92 or 93 on TAPE. Don't laugh Trev. I'll here you if you laugh.


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#50830 - 12/05/06 10:18 PM Re: hospitals
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Trev are you REALLY done with the hospital thing? Was it YOUR choice to go?


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#50831 - 12/06/06 04:46 PM Re: hospitals
Trevor Offline
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Loc: Rhode Island
its NEVER my choice ;(

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#50832 - 12/06/06 05:44 PM Re: hospitals
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Did you................ever really try to connect with any of the staff there? Did you treat them with respect? They might make a better attempt to really help you, rather than just "do their job" if they see the witty and cynical side of your personality that we see here.

What kind of person are you when you're there? The angry/bitter/not talking type patient or the one we see here?

Try to make the best of the situation that is not totally in your control ok?


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#50833 - 12/06/06 06:15 PM Re: hospitals
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Registered: 06/05/06
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Loc: Rhode Island
im the same there as
i am here.
this is just who
i am. im not trying
to be anything or
any 1 that im not
i nevr tried to
connect with anybody.
an im tired of things
not being in my
control

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#50834 - 12/06/06 06:24 PM Re: hospitals
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Loc: United States
Well sometimes a different approach/attitude might improve your situation there. Will you ever have to go back?


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#50835 - 12/06/06 06:28 PM Re: hospitals
Trevor Offline
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Registered: 06/05/06
Posts: 778
Loc: Rhode Island
if i try to hurt myself
or somebody else or if
i get in a rage or get
suicidal theyll try and
make me go back.

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#50836 - 12/06/06 06:44 PM Re: hospitals
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Registered: 11/21/03
Posts: 758
Loc: ohio
hospitals can be a pretty depressing place. it isnt like they really know or care about you as a person. you are just a case, another hapless victim that they run through the mill.

consider thier side for a moment. day in, day out, they have people coming past them, troubled people. many there are suicidal, some may even do it at some point. even here, you can see how hard it is when someone becomes stuck. if you try too hard, and give too much, and that person ends up hurting themselves or someone else, you lose part of yourself. reaching out to hurting people comes at a risk. there is always the chance you will be hurt in the end. all it takes is once of that, and people in the hospital learn to quickly detach from it. they learn to treat you as just another patient. they remove your humanity for thier own protection. i wish that wasnt the case, but it is. you have to place yourself outside of their suffering, or thier suffering will pull you under too.

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#50837 - 12/06/06 07:02 PM Re: hospitals
Trevor Offline
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Posts: 778
Loc: Rhode Island
its kinda hard to think
about their side when i
dont even wanna be there in the
1st place. so im forced to be
there then they treat me like
shit? fuck them and fuck that.
u know one time i was there an
i was freaking out cuz they had
me restrained but they didnt GET
that being restrained was making
me freak out u know? all they
had to do was take them off
an i would of calmed down. so it
took like an hour and having
fucking flashbacks till my sistr
got there and told them

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#50838 - 12/06/06 07:30 PM Re: hospitals
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Loc: ohio
i am not a big fan of forcing help on people. i have never seen it actually help that way. the only way people make real change is if they want it, and they want it so bad that they go after it. you are right, that is a huge problem with intervention type help.

the problem is that we are not alone in life. we share our world with others, and when we become a danger to others, people will step in, and rightfully so. if you are about to hurt someone, there has to be protections in place.

the other side is humanity as a whole. you dont even have to work in a hospital. my wife works for a grocery. every day people are stealing from them. they lie to get something for nothing. they whine and complain to get thier way like little children. when someone says, untie me and i'll calm down. are they for real, or only looking to get loose so they can lash out? how do you know which they are? do you take the restraints off, and if you do, do they turn around and kick you in the crotch or something? yes, they become hard and uncaring, but think of thier world. you never know who is lying and who isnt, so you ignore them all and follow some guidelines you were given, if they act out, restrain them until they calm down.

look, is it right what happens? when you are the one hurting is it right that it is this way? no, you need help, not cold abuse, but i am not sure how a system can adress each person. a system like a hospital is concerned for a whole, not the one. honestly, i dont think a clincal setting will ever be able to personalize and adapt to give each what they need. ultimately, for you to get what you need, you have to see to it.

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#50839 - 12/06/06 07:31 PM Re: hospitals
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Loc: United States
Could we back up a little bit? Why are you doing what is compelling them to "institutionalize" you? Are you angry/pissed off? Well you have every right to be!! But don't take it out on youself or other people. Channel that anger into something that makes you content/happy.

For instance, sometimes when you're here I've seen you talk to others that are coming here for the first time and you, out of the kindness in your character you have inside of you, despite all that anger and rage that you have, you try to help other people. Now it's sad that you're here in the first place, but when you talk to and counsel scared/desperate first-timers that come here, you're doing something really cool and your anger is a PART of it.

I guess my point is, don't pretend you're not angry, YOU ARE! But use it in a more constructive way, I know you have that in you.

Oh quick question if I may, have you seen your stupid fat stepbrother lately? What's going on with all that? Do you have any contact with them at all anymore? Are you seeing a therapist? I'm sorry if you alrady told us this but I forgot.


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#50840 - 12/06/06 07:45 PM Re: hospitals
Trevor Offline
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Registered: 06/05/06
Posts: 778
Loc: Rhode Island
i know im allowed to
be pissed off an i dont
care who knows it and
thats ovious rite?
its just that sometimes it
takes over and i cant help
wat i say or do then aftr i
feel bad and mostly dont evn
remember what i did.
my stupid ugly gross fat fuck
of a stepbrothr is still around.
i dont see him wen im at my moms
and my sistr dont let him come
over much anymore but sometimes
i see him and it sucks
ya im seeing a therapist

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#50841 - 12/06/06 08:16 PM Re: hospitals
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Registered: 11/12/05
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Loc: United States
Do you trust him? Do you keep anything back? Are you GLAD to talk to him? Is he helping you?


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#50842 - 12/06/06 08:39 PM Re: hospitals
Trevor Offline
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Registered: 06/05/06
Posts: 778
Loc: Rhode Island
i dont trust anyone
i dont tell him shit
i only go and talk
to him cuz my
sistr wants me
to and NO hes not
helping me. NObody
helps me so i
help myself.

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#50843 - 12/06/06 08:44 PM Re: hospitals
phoster Offline
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Registered: 11/21/03
Posts: 758
Loc: ohio
how's the helping yourself working? how is not trusting anyone working?

the last thing i want is to cause you more pain. you've got enough of that, but at what point do you admit to yourself what you are doing isnt working?

look, i tried dealing with it on my own. sometimes you just can't. sometimes, you have to reach deep, and let someone in. yes, whenever you let someone in, they may hurt you, but if you never let anyone in, you will be very lonely and isolated forever. let's face it, being alone isnt any fun.

naturally he isnt helping. if you dont let him in, he can't.

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#50844 - 12/06/06 09:24 PM Re: hospitals
Trevor Offline
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Registered: 06/05/06
Posts: 778
Loc: Rhode Island
dont wanna talk about
this anymore

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#50845 - 12/07/06 01:53 PM Re: hospitals
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Registered: 11/12/06
Posts: 527
Loc: Marlboro, MA 01752
I was in a locked ward so many times (dual diagnosis) I was just about to get frequent flyer mileage. I had an Oriental shrink who was arrogant and a bitch. I got so mad at her I said something to her in the day room and she jumped up screaming and rushed out. Don't mess with a taurus frog. My peers thought it was wonderful. So did I.

A cynical froggy12. Hmm, I wonder why?
Ever hear a frog lisp?

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#50846 - 12/07/06 02:28 PM Re: hospitals
Trevor Offline
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Registered: 06/05/06
Posts: 778
Loc: Rhode Island
sounds jus like something my
sistr would do.
shes not oriental or a shrink
an shes not real arrogant.
but shes a bitch \:\)

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