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#474874 - 01/11/15 12:24 PM The Sleep Disturbances,Troubles of Male Survivors.
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Registered: 01/10/15
Posts: 12
I'm looking for help with understanding the kinds of sleep disturbance and trouble sleeping MS have. I'm not sleeping enough lately, so I'm just not 100% and feeling pretty down. My sleep pattern has been off a number of years. I've tried so many things. I saw a sleep specialist through my Medical Insurance. Drugs have helped, but I'd rather be drug free and sleep somewhat "normally" like 7-8 hrs of uninterrupted sleep. Is that too much to expect? What are other men experiencing in this area? Sometimes, I think I'm going nuts for lack of sleep. It's so hard to get through a day sometimes and I work full time. I was thinking if others have similar trouble, it's might make me feel less alone as I go through it. Please help. Giving advice is fine.
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#474877 - 01/11/15 01:36 PM Re: The Sleep Disturbances,Troubles of Male Survivors. [Re: R321]
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Registered: 11/19/14
Posts: 21
Loc: Minnesota
Hello R321,

Welcome to MS.

I can relate to the poor sleep problem you're having. I have had depression all my adult life and it has affected my sleep; sometimes I sleep too much, other times I can't get enough. I did a sleep study. The best the doc could suggest is cutting way back on my caffeine intake - which helps some when I can stay away from my coffee. He also recommended no direct light into the eyes (using a phone/tablet) before bedtime; indirect light from a lamp is OK.

My biggest problem with sleeping is waking up at 2-3am, every night no matter what I do. I'm usually able to get back to sleep after an hour or two, which is OK because I don't work and can sleep in the early morning. This doesn't seem to be related to any mental issue(s) that I can identify, but may be physiological.

When I need a full nights sleep, I take Trazadone, which seems to work. The only problem is the hangover which can take several hours to clear in the morning.

I hope you find an answer. Being overtired at work is so difficult.

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#474903 - 01/11/15 10:20 PM Re: The Sleep Disturbances,Troubles of Male Survivors. [Re: R321]
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Registered: 11/07/14
Posts: 12
Loc: Ontario
Hey R321,

Disturbed sleep is something I've dealt with over the past year or so since I've been actively addressing the abuse in my childhood. It comes is two flavours for me. Sometimes it's all out insomnia, which even OTC sleep aids can't overcome. More often it's similar to myrlin's situation, I wake up at every night between 3 am and 4 am and lay awake for hours. It's a pain because about the time I'm getting back to sleep, the alarm sounds. Ugh.

I remember reading somewhere that such a sleep disturbance pattern can indicate psychological issues, particularly anxiety. Makes sense to me. I'm beginning to think mine is related to memories working their way up from my subconscious. Once the memory surfaces and I process it a bit, my sleep improves. I've started sleeping poorly again this week, so I'm half expecting more memories soon.

I hear you about working when overtired. It's a hard one. I hope you don't have a job where tiredness could put you in physical danger. If so, take care of yourself! In my opinion, fatigue is a legit reason for a sick day.

Also like myrlin, I've cut the caffeine intake. I drink decaf. And when I wake up in the middle of the night, I will sometimes use a relaxation recording to help me relax my body and mind. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

Keep searching for things that help. You deserve a good night's sleep.

dew
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#474918 - 01/12/15 12:18 PM Re: The Sleep Disturbances,Troubles of Male Survivors. [Re: myrlin]
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Registered: 01/10/15
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Mrylin... I've been waking up at 4am. Sometimes I can go back to sleep, sometimes not. If I relax and don't get worked up about it, I sleep again, but that often isn't enough, so I just get up after that. Trazadone... Yeah, I'm glad it works for you, but I tried it once: had a seriously bad reaction. I took it three days & the effect was like my entire world was unraveling. I stopped immediately. I've tried Clanazopem (sp?) and it worked, but later found it can cause Dementia in older people & being in that group, I quit it too. I only drink coffee in the morning, a cup. The light deal might help. How long before bed must one stop that? Thanks for the info & good wishes.


Edited by R321 (01/12/15 12:27 PM)
Edit Reason: I gotta get it right.
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#474919 - 01/12/15 12:26 PM Re: The Sleep Disturbances,Troubles of Male Survivors. [Re: dew]
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Dew... So far, what I'm hearing is waking up early am hrs isn't so uncommon then, and yeah, I'm suffering from anxiety lately, so... "remember reading somewhere that such a sleep disturbance pattern can indicate psychological issues, particularly anxiety. Makes sense to me." Makes sense to me too. I'm beginning individual therapy as a prep. for group, plus my Mother is not well at all which brings on anxiety too about the loss of her. Thanks for your advice and encouragement. I'll try relaxing music. That's something I haven't done yet. Thanks again.
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#474934 - 01/12/15 03:52 PM Re: The Sleep Disturbances,Troubles of Male Survivors. [Re: R321]
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Registered: 11/19/14
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I believe the doc said a couple of hours before bedtime. Studies have shown the direct light into the eyes from phones/tablets I interferes with sleeping.

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#475000 - 01/13/15 11:53 AM Re: The Sleep Disturbances,Troubles of Male Survivors. [Re: R321]
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Registered: 01/10/15
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Ok, myrlin. Thanks for the info. Hang in there.

R321


Edited by R321 (01/13/15 11:53 AM)
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#482593 - 05/21/15 04:12 AM Re: The Sleep Disturbances,Troubles of Male Survivors. [Re: dew]
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Registered: 03/20/14
Posts: 50
Loc: Ontario, Canada
It's 4am and another night of tossing. I normally get by with Melatonin but that isn't working at this point. Like you, the past year has seen me addressing abuse from way back. I am at the point where I have to sleep for a few hours during the day to get through it.

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