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#467768 - 07/18/14 10:40 PM SWEET Justice!
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Florida Father Beats Accused Child Abuser



I call him "HaHa." Look at you now HaHa!

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#467771 - 07/18/14 11:26 PM Re: SWEET Justice! [Re: Still]
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I just saw this and was going to post as well. You beat me to it. smile

As a father I think I would likely have a similar reaction, especially given I am over-protective of my kids given my csa.

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#467776 - 07/19/14 02:02 AM Re: SWEET Justice! [Re: Still]
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The Fathers a better man than me being able to stop when he did
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#467881 - 07/22/14 10:19 PM Re: SWEET Justice! [Re: Still]
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I'd like to see a similar pic of the guy who got me, but I thino he was much older than this teen perp. I find it hard to see even this kid so beaten up, but fortunately, it sounds like he got caught early in his career.

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#467928 - 07/23/14 11:03 PM Re: SWEET Justice! [Re: unhappycamper]
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Originally Posted By: unhappycamper
I'd like to see a similar pic of the guy who got me, but I thino he was much older than this teen perp. I find it hard to see even this kid so beaten up, but fortunately, it sounds like he got caught early in his career.


I'll tell you John; Looking at your pic, know what happened...that's too much for me. I look at that avatar-boy and wish we could all end the perps career before it begins.
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#467930 - 07/23/14 11:17 PM Re: SWEET Justice! [Re: Still]
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just wondering...
is this guy guilty?

i have seen some terrible beatings inflicted on mistaken identities and false accusations and inflated rumours.

vigilante violence is a poor substitute for justice.
i have been part of too many lynch mobs and i have seen some seriously stupid attempts to punish perpetrators that went way out of control. many innocent people were hurt during these chaotic crowd actions.

just thought i would put that out there.

but if he is truly guilty, i feel sorry for him and his victim.
this beating did nothing to help the victim/survivor.
it may actually re-traumatize the abused child,
if they feel that they were somehow responsible for the beating of their abuser,
especially if they are still confused about their feelings toward the abuser and they are not "hot for revenge".

how would a child feel about this picture if he felt that he was to blame for this beating?
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#467992 - 07/25/14 11:53 PM Re: SWEET Justice! [Re: victor-victim]
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here are some of my own personal experiences with vigilante justice.
warning triggers warning triggers

http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthr...8910#Post456902

http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthr...2979#Post442186

http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=456896#Post456896

http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthr...76022#Post76022

and these are only the ones i have written about.
there are many more incidents (unfortunately i grew up in a lawless suburban subculture of violence), and i can honestly say that justice was never served in the name of revenge.
i wish i could say that the judicial system worked, but the police and courts failed to deliver justice either.

there are no simple solutions to this soul sickness.
i wish it was as easy as punishing the perpetrator.

i found a older thread on this topic, with some interesting perspectives.
http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=182023&page=1

nevertheless,
all that having been said,
as a man,
as a father,
as a human being,
i still feel anger and a desire to hurt (or worse) these soul assassins,
whenever i encounter the results of their selfish evil deeds.
it floods over me.
it comes, then goes, as quickly as it came.
i used to revel in it.
wallow in it.
escalate it.
ruminate it.
suppress it.
express it.
indulge, engage, a surge of rage,
but now i recoil from that part of my soul.
it is a bottomless black hole from which i am emerging,
groping my way out of the darkness.
i have no desire to fall back.
i refuse to surrender to hate.
i will be the master of my own fate.


‘It is useless to meet revenge with revenge: it will heal nothing.’
- J.R.R.Tolkien

‘The old law of an eye for an eye leaves everybody blind.’
- Martin Luther King
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#468024 - Yesterday at 01:19 AM Re: SWEET Justice! [Re: victor-victim]
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Originally Posted By: victor-victim
just wondering...
is this guy guilty?


VV, I'm not being confrontational or shoving you here. This is just a clarification as called for in your posts.

Whereas I called this post "Sweet Justice," it was for the arrest and eventual punishment of the rapist turd. The justice comes from the guy being caught...the boy's agony ending...one more perp off the street.

I'm not equating revenge to justice, or justice to revenge. Sometimes, halting a demon requires human nature. Human nature, in this case, resulted in a violent arrest of the turd.

Quote:
how would a child feel about this picture if he felt that he was to blame for this beating?


The kid knows. The kid disclosed YEARS of such abuse by this turd.
The father caught him in the act of f****** his son.
Thusly, the beating commenced. It was a human reaction as base as breathing.

No charges filed.

Perp admitted to this. Three years and the boy is now just 11.

The father was fully situationally licensed to send this guy to hell without fear of a criminal charge.

I really could not give a flying farg about the turd. I just know, as most here do, what this kid is facing from the next 70 years.

I don't see ANY of this case as revenge...not one molecule. He stopped a threat. He ended a rape earlier that otherwise. He ended serial abuse.

I know for a fact that I would not have stopped when this father did. I would have arrested the crime and eliminated the threat to the best of my ability.

Just this week, I went ballistic on a Govt Official who was leaning on my doorbell for 15 minutes while my daughter was home alone. She called me, scared, wondering what to do. He left before I got there, but he had left his card and a note in the door. I dealt with him rather directly under the supervision of my local Police Chief. He will not be back. A father's reaction...not revenge. Human-nature protection of their young should never be confused with revenge.

But revenge? Hell no....its not revenge. Justice and revenge are not even in the same law books. This is as clean a case of arresting a baby-raper as I've ever seen. Caught in the act.

I can't imagine the horror experienced by the boy and the dad. I care less than one electron about Mr Puffy-Face.
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#468029 - Yesterday at 02:58 AM Re: SWEET Justice! [Re: Still]
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i went and got some of the details of this article.

A Daytona Beach father beat an 18-year-old man unconscious after finding him sexually abusing his 11-year-old son early Friday morning, police said.
The father called 911 around 1 a.m. after he walked in on the alleged abuse.
When police arrived, they found R F (alleged perp) motionless on the living room floor, bloody and unconscious.
The father told investigators he walked in as R F was abusing the boy.
When asked if any weapons were involved, the father replied "my foot and my fist."
"I did what I had a right to, except I didn't kill him," the father said. "You are damn lucky, boy, that I love my God."
The father has not been charged with any crime.
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#468030 - Yesterday at 03:07 AM Re: SWEET Justice! [Re: Still]
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i am only talking about my own feelings.
i did not enjoy watching my rapist being beaten.
it made me sick. it scared me.
i believe it made my spiritual/emotional/psychological condition worse.
all the years i wasted on hatred and revenge fantasy did me no good, either.
i think it hindered and postponed my recovery.
that is just my own personal experience, reaction and opinion.

my apologies for not knowing the details of this particular situation.

i was triggered by the photograph and did not check the link to the story before i started asking questions.

catching someone actually in the act of committing an assault on any child,
especially one's own, could easily provoke a momentary lapse of reason and a violent outburst in any human with emotional empathy.

if suddenly presented with such a scenario involving my own son or daughter, i can honestly say that i would probably snap, and do something vicious, before i had a chance to calm down enough to think about the proper response. there is no way to predict how much injury i would inflict during my justifiably homicidal rage. it frightens me to consider what i am capable of.

i do know that i have never felt good afterward about hurting anyone,...
not the ones i hurt on purpose because i felt they deserved it...
not the ones i hurt by accident because i was reckless...
not the ones i hurt in anger when i lashed out spontaneously...
the only time enjoyed it was while i was doing it.

i always eventually regretted causing harm, and i was horrified by my own capacity to hate and hit.
the things i did made perfect sense during the temporary insanity,
and then, as i calmed down, the folly of my illogic would become glaringly obvious.

usually, by then, the damage was already done, and it was too late to do the right thing.

this subject strikes close to home for me.
it provokes much self examination.

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