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#46676 - 06/27/03 06:01 PM Is not big problem---
Leosha Offline
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But since I start to have all this to deal with, and not just push it in corner of my mind but actual deal with it, I am sick much, physical sick. I go in hospital for 3 days because I can not eat or drink. Right now, it is sick to me to put anything in my mouth, it feels wrong, it feels like something bad, and I start losing weight this week from this. Is this just me being crazy again? Or is this problem of other people, and how do I fix it, so I don't get sick again? Thank you.

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#46677 - 06/27/03 08:10 PM Re: Is not big problem---
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Leosha,

No you're not crazy. Many of us suffer from all kinds of physical symptoms becuz of the trauma of being sexually abused--Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). Try getting a complete physical examination from a good doctor, one who knows something about sexual abuse & trauma if you can find one. Find out what physical problems you might have & what can be done for them.

It sounds as tho you've been learning a lot of new & hard to take things about your abuse the last few days. This could certainly affect you physically, speaking from experience. So if you're not seeing a good therapist that could really help too.

Take care of yourself Leosha.

Victor

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#46678 - 06/27/03 08:33 PM Re: Is not big problem---
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I see doctor as I am in hospital this week, and is healthy, but for the flue I have, and how it dries me out much. It seems there is nothing wrong but the mental thought of putting things in my mouth, it makes it impossible to eat right now, and I lost some 7 kilos in last two weeks. I just need to know how to make it easy, so I do not get the sick again.

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#46679 - 06/27/03 09:48 PM Re: Is not big problem---
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Leosha, can you drink some Gatorade or Sport Drink? That will keep you from dehydration.

Maybe start to eat something you used to like a lot but eat it in small portions. Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but I have the impression that there is something emotional about not wanting anything in your mouth. That is very understandable. Many of us have a hard time going to the Dentist even.

I hope you can get eating again.

Leosha, do you have a really good friend near you who you can just do fun things with? Do you like to go to dances? or movies?

What I am saying is that when we are in the early stage of recovery we need to do things to keep ourselves from thinking about the abuse and only the abuse. Does your skating practice let you get your thoughts completely on the skating? Have you tried Roller Blading? I hope you can have good companionship AND get your mind off the pain from time to time each day. That is important for all of us.

Bob

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#46680 - 06/27/03 10:05 PM Re: Is not big problem---
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When I was clinically depressed I had a very difficult time eating. The food didn't want to go down. I could eat (didn't want to, but I could manage) with other people around, but when I was alone it was a real struggle. What I tried to do was completely spoil myself -- finding those things that I REALLY liked & having them around where it was easy. I also used protein drinks & smoothies because sometimes I could drink when I couldn't make myself eat anything.

Anyway, just my two cents -- I think it is a normal reaction to abnormal stuff going on. Emotional problems ARE physical -- it is in your brain & in your chemistry. People seem to like to compartmentalize, but I don't think that the distinction between 'physical' and 'mental' illness makes a lot of sense in reality -- isn't our brain a part of our physical selves? And don't 'emotional' reactions often have physical manifestations?

-BB.


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#46681 - 06/28/03 09:59 AM Re: Is not big problem---
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I see doctor as I am in hospital this week, and is healthy, but for the flue I have, and how it dries me out much. It seems there is nothing wrong but the mental thought of putting things in my mouth, it makes it impossible to eat right now, and I lost some 7 kilos in last two weeks. I just need to know how to make it easy, so I do not get the sick again.
Leosha:

As Bob says drink a lot of liquids, as you may be suffering severe dehydration.

About the only time I remember in my life when I wasn't hungry was when I was in the Air Force. It was after a long march in extreme heat then being put in a basement with no ventilation to watch some stupid training film. Leosha, I was so dried out I couldn't even puke, I just had dry heaves--very painful. For a couple of days I couldn't stand the thot of eating. Three days they pumped liquids into me IV in the hospital, then finally I got to drinking liquids, soft foods, then more solid foods.

Ever since then I drink far more than the recommended eight glasses of water a day!

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Anyway, just my two cents -- I think it is a normal reaction to abnormal stuff going on. Emotional problems ARE physical -- it is in your brain & in your chemistry. People seem to like to compartmentalize, but I don't think that the distinction between 'physical' and 'mental' illness makes a lot of sense in reality -- isn't our brain a part of our physical selves? And don't 'emotional' reactions often have physical manifestations?
BB, this is so true and it makes so much sense!

It's not a matter of it being psychosomatic
like some of the "experts" say. http://www.nonstick.com/sounds/miscellaneous/ltmi_130.wav
Nor does it have anything to do with hypochondria http://www.nonstick.com/sounds/daffy_duck/ltdd_181.wav http://www.nonstick.com/sounds/daffy_duck/ltdd_182.wav http://tultw.com/pics/daffy1458.jpg

We are simply not two different beings, one physical & one mental. We are one.

My fibromyalgia (chronic pain) is a direct result of PTSD caused by my SA, as is my sleep apnea. So is my OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) & depression. It's all tied together.

Heal the body & heal the mind. Heal the mind & heal the body.

Victor

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#46682 - 06/28/03 04:40 PM Re: Is not big problem---
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Thank you for the responses and ideas. I talk at a friend on here last night who gives me idea of how to get some mental control of it back. It sounds some crazy, but I will try it. Meantime, I am doing drinks, the healthy drinks, not the alcohol! Thank you again.

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#46683 - 06/29/03 09:46 PM Re: Is not big problem---
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Leosha,

I feel for your pain. Several months ago, I was pretty much in the place you are. I lost about 50 pounds (22 kg) in about three weeks. If I managed to eat 1/2 cup (125 ml) of food in one day, I considered it to be a good day (also if I slept for more than three hours). I began taking a vitamin about three days after I 'stopped' eating. I saw where I was headed and feared that if I continued the way I was going I would end up in the hospital, so I went to the doctor to get some help. My doctors put me on an antiacid to settle the stomache and antidepressants to help reside the cause and I started seeing a therapist.

It sounds like the doctors ruled out a physilogical cause for you not eating. Get out and do something that you can enjoy, eat what you can and make it good for you, take a good vitamin, and drink plenty of water. Keep away from any alcohol, it only adds to problems, both mental and physical.

It sounds like you have a good friend there. Let him help you and take care of yourself.

As for me, I am now eating better than a fair amount and continuing to take the vitamin. My weight has stablized at a level I am happy with.

Bill

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