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#463704 - 04/05/14 12:47 PM Re: cia [Re: Dave PNW]
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That sound too weird...

I know we are just chemical reactions in our brain.

Watch a diabetic have dramatic personality changes based on glucose levels.

I want the "I'm awesome and self confident" shock treatment!
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#463753 - 04/06/14 01:37 PM Re: cia [Re: Dave PNW]
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Hey OTH

Yeah I heard of those Electrode in the head deals, not funny and very true. Good ole USofA did a lot of that shit to kids and adults. The awful part is that we used German doctors who were specialists in the dark side of german medicine. A guy who I work with just lost his father to cancer. He was stationed on one of those ships that had to watch the atomic bomb explosion on Bikini Atoll in 1946. (don't know if his cancer was related but he was in his 90's smile ). http://life.time.com/history/able-and-baker-photos-from-two-american-a-bomb-tests-in-july-1946/#1 . I'm not trying to make this a political thread I just want to show that shit happens in government and we have one that's among the best.

I had something similar happen to me but with only one electrode and that one was inserted in my other end, but that was only the porn business making kids do what they wanted, sort of teaching kids to jump when they say jump (it worked just as they expected it would) mad frown mad. To bad we don't know more about the mafia and the government experiments. A lot of kids suffered from both ends crazy.

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I want the "I'm awesome and self confident" shock treatment!
This makes two of us, unfortunately I would have to be on LSD crazy frown grin

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#463816 - 04/07/14 05:35 PM Re: cia [Re: lapchinj]
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Post has been moved to keep it in line with other posts I have made concerning things I experienced. - Puffer



Edited by pufferfish (05/19/14 12:54 AM)

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#463821 - 04/07/14 08:20 PM Re: SSA and Sexual Orientation [Re: Dave PNW]
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Hey Pufer

oooooh! That's harsh shocked eek cry

No SSA here for me

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Edited by lapchinj (04/07/14 08:34 PM)
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#463849 - 04/08/14 12:30 PM Re: SSA and Sexual Orientation [Re: Dave PNW]
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Just like the Nazi's but with better lies and PR.
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#463850 - 04/08/14 12:52 PM Re: SSA and Sexual Orientation [Re: On The Fringe]
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Post moved



Edited by pufferfish (05/19/14 12:56 AM)

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#463870 - 04/08/14 05:54 PM Re: SSA and Sexual Orientation [Re: Dave PNW]
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THe only SSA with Mengele was twins but that didn't matter whether girls or boys or mixed.

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#463892 - 04/09/14 01:49 PM Re: SSA and Sexual Orientation [Re: lapchinj]
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I've found what seems to be a good on-line reference on experimentation on children. I (Pufferfish) am saying these things because I was made a part of this experimental project when I was a child. I didn't have a clue as to what was going on. I had no idea that there were many other children involved separately. I was 13 years old and was taken to a rickety old hospital in Washington D.C. It was in October 1953. I was told I was going to be given a necessary tonsillectomy, even though I had previously had my tonsils out. I experienced things described in this post and the ones above. However, when I went home from that experience, I had the following symptoms:

I couldn't talk, I could only whisper.
My right eye had become very near-sighted.
I was very depressed.
I was very socially isolated (more than before).
I was highly sexualized.
I started using a lot of profanity.

There is a book on this. Unfortunately the cost is $195.
http://www.amazon.com/Government-Mind-Control-Experiments-Children/dp/B0006QII2U/

Important points from this book are in the following article:

http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Articles/Mind%20Control%20Experiments%20on%20Children.html

Following are quotes from this on-line article.
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None of this prepared people for the explosive testimony made on March 15, 1995, in Washington, D.C., before the President’s Committee on Radiation, however. In unpublicized sessions, New Orleans therapist Valerie Wolf introduced two of her patients who had uncovered memories of being part of extensive CIA brainwashing programs as young children (in one case, starting at age seven). Their brainwashing included torture, rape, electroshock, powerful drugs, hypnosis and death threats. According to their testimony, the CIA then induced amnesia to prevent their recalling these terrifying sessions.


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Prominent names surfaced in the March 15 testimony: Richard Helms, former head of the CIA, Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, who ran MK-ULTRA and Dr. John Gittinger, Gottlieb’s protege. These men and others were directly accused of participating in grisly mind-control efforts on children.


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From what I have been able to discover so far, many American children, as well as children from Mexico and South America, were used over a period of about 40 years, starting around 1948. In fact, the program may still be going on. Doctors and agents who administered it wanted to obtain control over the minds of these children, ostensibly to create superagents who wouldn’t remember even what missions they carried out, because of hypnotically induced amnesia (which could be removed by their controllers and reinstalled at will)


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Children were trained as sex agents, for example, with the job of blackmailing prominent Americans - primarily politicians, businessmen and educators. A great deal of filming was done for this purpose. Eventually, people from the inner core of the CIA program filmed each other, and some of the centres where children were used as sex agents got out of control and turned into CIA-operated sex rings.

Some children were considered expendable and simply murdered.

One person who states that he was in this program as a child said, off the record:

“They tried out their brainwashing techniques on the kids from Mexico and South America. They were considered expendable. But on another echelon of the program, they went after the best and the brightest American kids.


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“He often tied me down in a cage, which was near his office. Between 1972 and 1976 he and his assistants were sometimes careless and left the cage unlocked. Whenever physically possible, I snuck into his office and found files with reports and memos addressed to CIA and military personnel. Included in these files were project, subproject, subject and experiment names with some code numbers for radiation mind-control experiments which I have submitted in my written documentation. I was caught twice and Dr. Greene tortured me ruthlessly with electric shock, drugs, spinning on a table, putting shots in my stomach, in my back, dislocating my joints and hypnotic techniques to make me feel crazy and suicidal...”


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Edited by pufferfish (04/09/14 02:42 PM)

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#463944 - 04/10/14 06:02 PM Re: SSA and Sexual Orientation [Re: Dave PNW]
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Ok all that was just nasty and evil.

Back to struggling with SSA..

I have accepted it as a strong influence in my past. It was imprinted n me by my abuse. It formed part of who I am today.

I accept it. No sense in being at war with myself.
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#463981 - 04/11/14 07:21 PM Re: SSA and Sexual Orientation [Re: Dave PNW]
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Hey OTH

Do you think that you're gay or sort of it doesn't really matter. The reason i ask (not to be nosy) but if you are a straight guy how did it influence your life now.

I'm gay and married. It was the only thing to do in the '70s but my relationship with my wife is a strong "friendship", It's not really sexual. I look at other men but have never been with anyone else but her for the last 37 years (???).

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