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#462470 - 03/12/14 06:11 PM Anybody knows/try hormone therapy?????
fff123 Offline


Registered: 03/05/14
Posts: 15
Loc: Karachi,Pakistan
Any good results of it??can it reverse the effects of estrogen pills/injections???

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#462520 - 03/13/14 11:40 AM Re: Anybody knows/try hormone therapy????? [Re: fff123]
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Registered: 03/07/11
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Loc: west coast
yes

there is some higher risk of stroke or heart attack, but testosterone will reverse the effects of estrogen mostly
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#462530 - 03/13/14 03:35 PM Re: Anybody knows/try hormone therapy????? [Re: fff123]
fff123 Offline


Registered: 03/05/14
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Loc: Karachi,Pakistan
Sound dangerous more than it worth as i value my life.Do u know by personal experience or by any friend about hormones therapy??

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#463569 - 04/02/14 06:09 PM Re: Anybody knows/try hormone therapy????? [Re: fff123]
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Loc: New York
Testosterone does not reverse the effects of estrogen. In fact, large amounts of testosterone can begin to aromatize into estrogen. Ever wonder why some body builders develop breasts? There you go.

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#463934 - 04/10/14 11:19 AM Re: Anybody knows/try hormone therapy????? [Re: fff123]
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Registered: 09/28/10
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Loc: Oregon
I was on male hormone replacement therapy for 30+ years as I am unable to produce it naturally.I'm not sure how long it will take to reverse the effects of estrogen(therapy?)but I am about to start back on the testosterone as I'm tired of the fatigue, feeling wimpy, weight gain, and I'd like to feel sexual again.
There are definite risks with HRT as I have survived 3 pulmonary embolisms & 2 deep vein thrombosis and have to take blood thinner for the rest of life. It is directly related to the testosterone therapy.
Go see an endocrinologist to answer your questions.
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#463951 - 04/10/14 09:28 PM Re: Anybody knows/try hormone therapy????? [Re: Max10]
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My PCP doctor found 2 years ago that my T level was low. It showed up in routine lab tests. So for a year I was given monthly shots of testosterone. It was something less than delightful because the hormone levels that I felt went roller - coastering up and down between shots. I complained about this. Then the next lab tests showed that my PSA (prostate antibody) level was up, indicating I had a potential prostate problem. So PCP cancelled all the testosterone therapy. I fell with a thud to the bottom of the hormonal roller - coaster. I started taking a supplement from the health food store. It is called Testoflex. I find it more satisfactory than the T shots had been. BTW I'm 75 years old.

Puffer



Edited by pufferfish (04/10/14 10:12 PM)

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#463974 - 04/11/14 04:44 PM Re: Anybody knows/try hormone therapy????? [Re: pufferfish]
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The testosterone injection I was given monthly for something over a year was testosterone cypionate. As I already said, I found it less than satisfactory.

The problem with taking any hormone is that hormones all affect each other. Taking a testosterone drug can cause side effects, such as causing the prostate gland to go out of whack. Now some testosterone drugs seem to be linked to prostate hypertrophy and cancer in some cases. That is what my doctor was worried about.

This concept applies to taking melatonin which is a hormone drug. Some people have taken HCG hormone to lose weight. The problem is the side affect.

Here is a website related to testosterone supplements.

http://www.testosteronemedicinelawsuit.c...creative_id=ad3

I'm not sure if this website is bogus.


Puffer



Edited by pufferfish (04/11/14 04:46 PM)

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#464054 - 04/14/14 12:43 AM Re: Anybody knows/try hormone therapy????? [Re: pufferfish]
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Another thing I worry about is estrogens or estrogen - related substances in our foods. It's difficult to get good information on this because various sources seem to contradict each other.

The food from cans (or tins in G.B.) may have some amount of an estrogen-like chemical in it. They coat the inside of the can with a substance of this nature. Many plastics use a plastic softener which has estrogen-like qualities. The softener is phthalate.

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#464519 - 04/24/14 07:49 PM Re: Anybody knows/try hormone therapy????? [Re: fff123]
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Registered: 06/12/12
Posts: 49
Hey there,

I have been on testosterone cypionate injections for almost 15 years. Other than an enlarged prostate which I probably would have developed anyways, hormone replacement therapy has changed my life significantly. Prior to treatment I thought I was losing my mind. I couldn't remember much at all, fatigue, limited sexual interest, depressed, no muscle tone.

Eventually a friend educated me on the condition as he was hypo gonadal as well. The key with therapy is to determine which method is easiest for you and also to get your levels to the range that you feel normal. As men we all function "normally" at different levels.

The typical blood level for testosterone is from 250 to about 1150 ngdl. A teenage boy going thru puberty is typically at the high end of the range while an older man in his twilight years may be closer to the bottom of the range. I was 31 when diagnosed. I tested at 250. My first doctor said I was normal but I didn't feel normal. My second doctor was a specialist in the area of HRT and began me on weekly injections, 1 cc per week. I find at this level my brain works great and my body feels normal. This keeps me at around 900 ngdl and I feel fantastic. The key with injections is to use a smaller amount more frequently. This keeps you from the big mood swings that can happen with one or twice a month of larger injections.

The second part is watching the female hormones which can also be messed up with or without supplementation. Too much of a good thing is bad in the hormone business so I also take 1 mg of an anti estrogen med called arimidex. Everything stays in check then.

My quality of life has been dramatically improved being on testosterone. I did try the gel but found putting it on daily was a lot of work for me and the injections are easier for my schedule. I self inject and it works great.

I am in the best shape of my life. Yes my nuts shrank and I am now sterile but my wife and I are done having children and I enjoy a great physique and muscle tone.

So yes there are risks, but my experience has been extremely positive. Private me if you have specific questions.

Good luck in your endeavors!

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#464521 - 04/24/14 07:54 PM Re: Anybody knows/try hormone therapy????? [Re: learning2luvme]
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Thanks for this informative statement. I don't know how to convince my PCP of these things.

Puffer

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