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#461726 - 02/28/14 01:24 PM Uganda - Blame Sex Abuse
1lifenow Offline


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A man who knows just about more than anyone in the world about homosexuality ( in his words) SCOTT LIVELY visited UGANDA in 2009, to explain to them the cause of homosexuality. Here are the causes of homosexuality as related by the worlds leading authority on the subject. The following list is what causes people to "go into homosexuality".

First off, there are no homosexuals. Because they are been either male or female by birth and bits. So they turn to the people they are not supposed to mate with into the "CONDITION OF HOMOSEXUALITY THAT GOD CONDEMNS", due to the following factors in order of occurrence:
1. CHILDHOOD SEXUAL ABUSE - the highest percentage.
2. Gender Identity Confusion - your dad did not connect with you when you were trying to separate from you moms boob. So if your dad is an asshole, you can't and don't want to be like him so you "decide" at 18 months to try to be like mommy and therefore want to have sex with men. So then you think you were "born that way" and love lady gaga.
3. Rebel Against Authority - something "bad" has happened, i.e. parents divorced so you have a bad attitude and therefore act gay and enter into homosexual conduct to shock people.
So a pedophile sees your confusion and vulnerability and presto you are recruited into the homosexual lifestyle. So the GOOD NEWS is that these things that were acquired by environmental factors can be overcome. It is a LIE that gays are born that way because there has never been a definitive scientific study to show that homosexuality is innate. ( multiple studies, in many peer reviewed journals, have demonstrated multiple innate contributing factors, however there is no one gay gene marker, just as there is no one heterosexual gene.) This is true because everyone homo/lesbian he has met falls into one of these three categories.

Before he signed the Bill, the Ugandan president asked his "scientists' who confirmed there is no single genetic cause of homosexuality so therefore they are not born that way. So with Harod's clear conscience he signed the Bill.

So the rationale for jail for life makes perfect sense. Also homosexuality is un-African and is a product of western liberalism. So the POPE of Rome has reportedly accepted and invitation to go to Uganda to honour the 50th anniversary of the canonization of the catholic martyrs of King Mwanga II (he actually has wang in his name). These young men were in the palace of the king who could then sodomize them at his will. When the missionaries converted them to christianity and they said thanks but no thanks, the king had them killed.

So now we know the story. Homo is:
a rejection/condemnation of GOD, your dad, idealizing your mother, being an easy target for a pedophile, a choice, an act of insolence, equivalent to a rapist/pederast, environmentally unfriendly, a man willing to kill for sex, un-African, a historically bad african, a way to be canonized if you say no and are willing to die.

How could you NOT put those people in jail. The GOOD NEWS is…



http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/pope-will-fly-uganda-worship-martyrs-who-rejected-gay-sex280214
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#461730 - 02/28/14 02:42 PM Re: Uganda - Blame Sex Abuse [Re: 1lifenow]
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very interesting.

here is another discussion about Uganda's government, legislation and constitution.

http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=461405

i have never heard of scott lively before.
do you have more information on his involvement with the situation in uganda?
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#461733 - 02/28/14 03:11 PM Re: Uganda - Blame Sex Abuse [Re: 1lifenow]
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His hate speaks for itself:

http://www.scottlively.net/


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#461734 - 02/28/14 03:25 PM Re: Uganda - Blame Sex Abuse [Re: cosmos]
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sorry, i could not find any information about Scott Lively's visit to uganda, or consultation with the ugandan government on that website.

did uganda actually use his name or opinion or information to help pass or write this anti=gay bill?


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#461742 - 02/28/14 04:56 PM Re: Uganda - Blame Sex Abuse [Re: 1lifenow]
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His last visit in 2009 caused him to be named as a defendant in a lawsuit.

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen2/12a/lively_ccr_lawsuit/index.html

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#461744 - 02/28/14 05:19 PM Re: Uganda - Blame Sex Abuse [Re: cosmos]
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Originally Posted By: Center for Constitutional Rights

On March 14, 2012, the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of Sexual Minorities Uganda, a non-profit umbrella organization for LGBTI advocacy groups in Uganda, against Abiding Truth Ministries President Scott Lively. Filed in the United States District Court in Springfield, Massachusetts, the suit alleges that Lively’s involvement in anti-gay efforts in Uganda, including his active participation in the conspiracy to strip away fundamental rights from LGBTI persons, constitutes persecution. This is the first known Alien Tort Statute (ATS) case seeking accountability for persecution on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity.

Status
The Court denied the Defendant's Motion to Dismiss. Discovery phase scheduled to commence in January 2014. Defendant's petition to the First Circuit for a Writ of Mandamus is pending.

Description
Sexual Minorities Uganda, an umbrella organization located in Kampala, Uganda, which represents the interests of its constituent member organizations in advocating for the rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex people (“LGBTI”) in Uganda, brought this case against against defendant Scott LIVELY, a U.S.-based attorney, author, and self-described world-leading expert on the “gay movement,” for the decade-long campaign he has waged, in agreement and coordination with his Ugandan counterparts, to persecute persons on the basis of their gender and/or sexual orientation and gender identity.

The case is brought under the Alien Tort Statute (“ATS”), 28 U.S.C. §1350, which provides federal jurisdiction for “any civil action by an alien, for a tort only, committed in violation of the law of nations or a treaty of the United States.” United States Supreme Court has affirmed the use of the ATS as a remedy for serious violations of international law norms that are widely accepted and clearly defined. Persecution, as a crime against humanity that is universally proscribed and clearly defined in international law, is such a violation. Persecution is defined in international law as the “intentional and severe deprivation of fundamental rights contrary to international law by reason of the identity of the group or collectivity.”





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#461746 - 02/28/14 06:29 PM Re: Uganda - Blame Sex Abuse [Re: 1lifenow]
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Thanks for my introduction to Scott Lively. I visited his website and read thru several articles he has written. I now feel versed in that I can freely use the word "homosexualist" - which the auto correct on my pad indicates is an unknown word.

I do indeed live in a safe, naive world. My world, I am speaking of. I am amazed that such true HATE does exist. Amazed at the distortion of the Matthew Shepherd murder, and Lively's conclusion that "most" psychiatrist and therapist are now "homosexualists" themselves, having been infected during the course of the forty years since homosexuality was deemed no longer a mental illness.

I personally understand not the goal in teaching and spreading false doctrine other than an inner desire to create chaos in the world. Why do we as humans desire to hurt and destroy our fellows on this planet? What sort of HATE so permeates into the soul, that not only is the purveyor's spirit destroyed, but he or she wishes to destroy even those that they do not know.

And how can people of the twenty-first century still think that gays are "recruited" or it is something others can be infected with? ...those damn "homosexualists"!!

Interesting thread. I learned today, thank you.
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#461747 - 02/28/14 06:34 PM Re: Uganda - Blame Sex Abuse [Re: victor-victim]
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here is the judge's ruling
Originally Posted By: Judge Michael A. Ponsor


Case 3:12-cv-30051-MAP Document 59 Filed 08/14/13

SEXUAL MINORITIES UGANDA, (Plaintiff)
v.
SCOTT LIVELY, (Defendant)

MEMORANDUM AND ORDER REGARDING
DEFENDANT’S MOTIONS TO DISMISS
(Dkt. Nos. 21 & 30)
August 14, 2013

CONCLUSION
For the foregoing reasons, Defendant’s motions to
dismiss (Dkt. Nos. 21 and 30) are hereby DENIED. The case
is hereby referred to Magistrate Judge Kenneth P. Neiman for
a pretrial scheduling conference pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P.
16.
It is So Ordered.
MICHAEL A. PONSOR
U. S. District Judge


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#461756 - 02/28/14 07:23 PM Re: Uganda - Blame Sex Abuse [Re: cosmos]
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Originally Posted By: cosmos
His hate speaks for itself:

http://www.scottlively.net/

Pure hate to the N-th degree. I loved the following quote grin

Quote:
"In 1973, after an intensive campaign of pressure and harassment by LGBT activists, the board of the American Psychiatric Association voted to remove homosexuality as a mental illness from their Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM), the “bible” of mental health professionals. It was as if they opened Pandora’s Box and unleashed an invisible plague that attacks the reasoning centers in the brain. Now forty years later the evidence is overwhelming that the DSM should never have been modified. The only problem is that most of the people with the power to change it back are now homosexualists themselves, infected with the same disorder. God help us."
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I guess this hate group needs a little help from their friends - putin, the cossacks and the ugandan president.

It's a shame that they spend so much time and effort on hate.

I'm still reading that article, it's really hilarious and sad all at the same moment in time. I remember something from my science classes that that something could not occupy the same space at the same time but when you have this type of collision of matter it's call HATE.

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#461776 - 02/28/14 10:42 PM Re: Uganda - Blame Sex Abuse [Re: 1lifenow]
victor-victim Offline


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Originally Posted By: lapchinj

I guess this hate group needs a little help from their friends - putin, the cossacks and the ugandan president.

It's a shame that they spend so much time and effort on hate.

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The name Cossack is derived from the Turkic kazak (free man), meaning anyone who could not find his appropriate place in society and went into the steppes, where he acknowledged no authority.

Ethnic or "born" (prirodnye) Cossacks are those who can trace, or claim to trace, their ancestry to people and families identified as Cossacks in the Tsarist era. They tend to be Christian, practicing as Orthodox Christians or Old Believers. This group includes the edinovertsy, who identify as Slavic.
Others can be initiated as Cossacks, particularly men in military service. Such initiates may be neither ethnic Slavic nor Christian in religion. Not everyone agrees that such initiates should be considered Cossack. There is no consensus on an initiation rite or rules.
In other cases, individuals may put on a Cossack uniform and pretend to be one, perhaps because there is a large ethnic Cossack population in the area and the person wants to fit in. Others adopt Cossack clothing to try to take on some of their mythic status. Ethnic Cossacks refer to the re-enactors as ryazhenye ("dressed up phonies").

as a descendant of ukrainian heritage, i remind you that Cossacks are not a "hate group".
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#461780 - 02/28/14 10:56 PM Re: Uganda - Blame Sex Abuse [Re: 1lifenow]
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I consider myself a well-read person but had no idea Cossacks still existed until I read a NatGeo article about 7 years ago. And yeah... I was kind of scared to see them, as a concept. Chalk it up to Hebrew school.
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#461973 - 03/03/14 09:04 PM Re: Uganda - Blame Sex Abuse [Re: 1lifenow]
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Scott Lively is also one of the authors of "The Pink Swastika" a holocaust revisionist book that claims gays masterminded the holocaust, during which gay men were sent to concentration camps. The Southern Poverty Law Center, who tracks hate group activity, has an article on their web site talking about Lively's book:

Quote:
Anti-Gay Religious Crusaders Claim Homosexuals Helped Mastermind the Holocaust

For decades now, "Holocaust revisionists" in the U.S. and Europe have published pseudo-scholarly papers and books claiming to prove that the Nazis never carried out a systematic extermination of Jews. In 1995, a book called The Pink Swastika made similar claims about the Nazis' treatment of homosexuals during the Holocaust.

Written by fundamentalist activists Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams, The Pink Swastika says that rather than being victimized by the Nazis, gay men in Hitler's inner circle actually helped mastermind the Holocaust.

"While we cannot say that homosexuals caused the Holocaust, we must not ignore their central role in Nazism," write Lively and Abrams. "To the myth of the 'pink triangle' — the notion that all homosexuals in Nazi Germany were persecuted — we must respond with the reality of the 'pink swastika.'"

Historians agree that this "reality" is utterly false. But many anti-gay crusaders have used the "gay Nazi" myth as proof that gay people are immoral and destructive.

"When lawlessness is abroad in the land, the same thing will happen here that happened in Nazi Germany," Pat Robertson once warned viewers of his 700 Club. "Many of those people involved with Adolf Hitler were satanists. Many of them were homosexuals. The two seem to go together."

The Pink Swastika has been promoted by anti-gay groups like the Family Defense Council. The FDC's Dr. Howard Hurwitz called the book "a thoroughly researched, eminently readable, demolition of the 'gay' myth, symbolized by the pink triangle, that the Nazis were anti-homosexual."

In fact, while the number of homosexuals who died in the Holocaust does not approach the number of Jewish or Gypsy victims, the historical record shows that between 50,000 and 100,000 men were arrested for homosexuality (or suspicion of it) under the Nazi regime. They were routinely sent to concentration camps and marked with a pink triangle on their prison garb.

They were not systematically exterminated. But huge numbers are believed to have died in the work camps, along with an untold number of homosexual Jews, Gypsies and other "defectives" who were sent to extermination camps.

The myth that Nazis condoned or promoted homosexuality sprang up as a slander against Nazi leaders by their socialist opponents in the 1930s. Only one of the half-dozen leaders in Hitler's inner circle, Ernest Rohm, is believed by credible historians to have been gay.

The "gay Nazi" slander stuck, though, partly because German laws against homosexuals remained in place for a quarter of a century after World War II ended. That effectively silenced many homosexual victims of the Holocaust from telling their stories. A landmark survivor's memoir, The Men With the Pink Triangle, began to break that silence in 1972.

Lively is also the same man who hired a known sex offender at his "Holy Grounds" coffee shop:

Quote:
Police arrest manager of Holy Grounds Co...ed sex offender

SPRINGFIELD – A local man who served as manager of the Holy Grounds Coffee Shop on State Street -- a cafe operated by anti-gay pastor Scott Lively that serves free coffee and offers conversation to teenage visitors -- is a sex offender from New York who was imprisoned for the sexual abuse of an 11-year-old girl in 1995, according to police.

Police detectives on Thursday arrested Michael Frediani, 38, of 453 State St., for failing to register as a Level 2 sex offender in Springfield. He was living in an apartment above the coffee house.

Lively is the same man who responded to the murder of Ugandan human rights advocate, David Kato, with a bizarre theory:

Quote:
Scott Lively's bizarre response to the murder of David Kato

After the brutal murder of a Ugandan gay rights activist Wednesday, a Massachusetts preacher accused of helping incite anti-gay sentiment during a trip to the African nation responded to the killing with a feeble, callous statement. The pastor, Scott Lively, also offered his own bizarre theory about who may have killed activist David Kato by bludgeoning him to death with a hammer.

The killing is still being investigated, but gay rights activists in Uganda have connected Kato's murder to the anti-gay climate fostered by a trip there by Lively and other American preachers in 2009. David's death is a result of the hatred planted in Uganda by U.S. evangelicals in 2009,ť said Val Kalende, the chairwoman of one of Uganda's gay rights groups. The Ugandan government and the so-called U.S. evangelicals must take responsibility for David's blood.

But in a statement posted on the website Defend the Family today, the Springield pastor made no mention of his 2009 trip, nor did he condemn the murder or offer his condolences. Lively also said he would "caution the media against assuming Cato's [sic] murder was a hate crime."

Instead, Lively suggested Kato may have been killed by someone with whom he had been romantically involved, despite the fact that no one familiar with the case has suggested Kato was killed by a gay person, let alone someone with whom he had had a sexual relationship. There remains a "possibility" Kato was "killed by a 'gay' lover," Lively wrote, and likened Kato's death to that of Carlos Castro, a Portuguese journalist who was allegedly beaten to death and castrated by a male model in New York City earlier this month. The link between Kato and Castro — besides the fact that they were both openly gay men who had been brutally murdered — is unclear. But Lively has linked homosexuality to violence in the past. In his book Pink Swastika, Lively blames Nazi violence on homosexuality.

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#461977 - 03/03/14 11:34 PM Re: Uganda - Blame Sex Abuse [Re: 1lifenow]
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I'm not sure why my apology to the people on this thread didn't get posted, most probably something I did wrong

I just wanted to apologize to everyone on this thread for the remarks I made in an earlier post. I should not have diverted attention from the discussion going on here by mentioning anything about Russia. I'm sorry if I brought into the discussion on Uganda things that had no connection with the Ugandan issues that will very soon turn into genocide.

I'm very sorry

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#461979 - 03/03/14 11:51 PM Re: Uganda - Blame Sex Abuse [Re: 1lifenow]
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Jeff I saw your post don't know what happened?

pfm?

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