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#457978 - 01/04/14 02:36 PM Non AA ways to get sober?
Magellan Offline
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Registered: 12/31/10
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My brothers,

I'm ready to get sober again. I've been a pot head for a long time, and night time drinker (4-5 beers a night). I guess you can call me 'high functioning'. I'm employed and building a career and savings/retirement. I haven't suffered any consequences for my using (other than time and $ spent).

I know EXACTLY why I use - to kill the loneliness. I've worked for decades on trying to comprehend what happened to me. Part of that recovery lead me to MS, realizing that some things I already knew had a profound impact on me, which led to uncovering even more things that had me entranced in a world entirely confusing and frightening to me.

This past year I've made significant inroads into my recovery. Things that had never made sense in my life are starting to make sense.

I've done AA 2 times before, sober 2 and 2.5 years each time. I found the experience incredibly frustrating, and the 2nd time, the experience nearly drove me to suicide. I find the rooms abrasive, and the fellowship to be a faux fellowship.

I'm curious to know if anyone here has had any success getting sober without going through the AA /12 step route? Please share if you have.

The last thing I want to do is go back to AA only to be disgusted by the experience again. I went to an AA meeting a couple weeks ago out of curiosity (to see if I would respond differently) and had the same sense of disgust. Perhaps the program in San Francisco is tainted by the hyper sexuality (gay AA meetings are ... meat markets). And I don't have anything in common with straight AA meetings.

So - to those of you who want me to try AA again - I have. I've done it repeatedly. I'm looking for alternatives.

Thanks in advance.
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#457993 - 01/04/14 08:00 PM Re: Non AA ways to get sober? [Re: Magellan]
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I answered my own question. I could have googled before asking here, but I figured I'd ask anyone who had experience.

smartrecovery.com. There's 3 meetings a week like 3 blocks from my home. I'm going to check it out starting Monday.

Wish me luck.
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#457995 - 01/04/14 08:30 PM Re: Non AA ways to get sober? [Re: Magellan]
bey Offline


Registered: 01/28/10
Posts: 203
Loc: canada
Good luck with the meetings, I hope they meet your needs more than AA did. I was in and out of NA for years and finally had to just admit that the 12 step thing was not a good fit for me. I go to lifering meetings sometimes, i see an addictions councillor, its a better fit.

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#458008 - 01/04/14 10:54 PM Re: Non AA ways to get sober? [Re: Magellan]
Jude Offline


Registered: 08/09/12
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Loc: New England
Yeah there are alot of different programs for recovery available. There is no "one size fits all" in this business.

Just my opinion, but being comfortable with a program is not the most important yardstick for whether its working for a guy. I think the questions to be considering are A) Am I able to stay sober through this program; B) is this program helping me grow and change to become a better person; and C) Is this program helping me to bring serenity and peace to my life, regardless of the circumstances I'm facing.

If a guy can answer YES to all three questions, then I'd say they've got a good program in process.
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#458097 - 01/06/14 12:36 PM Re: Non AA ways to get sober? [Re: Magellan]
On The Fringe Offline


Registered: 09/21/13
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Loc: Southeast USA
Good luck! Even AA does not claim to be the only game in town. I hope you find what works for you.
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#458149 - 01/07/14 08:05 AM Re: Non AA ways to get sober? [Re: Magellan]
little big man Offline


Registered: 06/19/10
Posts: 106
Loc: nevada
4 or 5 beers a night? Alcoholics never tell how mch they really drink. Also are you looking for differances or similarities? A person can pick anything apart. Is the majority of the program good and you are looking for a reason to not belong?

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#458160 - 01/07/14 12:03 PM Re: Non AA ways to get sober? [Re: Magellan]
Magellan Offline
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LBM - I don't know what the intent of your post is.

But yes, I drink 4-5 beers a night, and I'm looking for alternatives to AA.

Thanks for the support, everyone!
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#458162 - 01/07/14 12:09 PM Re: Non AA ways to get sober? [Re: Magellan]
little big man Offline


Registered: 06/19/10
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The intent was alot of people don't get into recovery or stay because they will pick it apart, find differences instead of similarites. I e find a way to not belong. And it is a known fact alcoholics never tell how much they really drink. If you are being honest then that is rare.

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#458163 - 01/07/14 12:11 PM Re: Non AA ways to get sober? [Re: Magellan]
little big man Offline


Registered: 06/19/10
Posts: 106
Loc: nevada
As an addiction progresses more of the substance is used. It does not stay the same.

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#458164 - 01/07/14 12:14 PM Re: Non AA ways to get sober? [Re: Magellan]
little big man Offline


Registered: 06/19/10
Posts: 106
Loc: nevada
DRA Dual recovery anonymous. For addiction and those with a mental diagnosis. Good program its own lit. But still twelve step.

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#458166 - 01/07/14 12:32 PM Re: Non AA ways to get sober? [Re: little big man]
Magellan Offline
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Loc: California
Thanks for your input LBM. smile


Edited by Magellan (01/07/14 12:34 PM)
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#458236 - 01/08/14 10:13 AM Re: Non AA ways to get sober? [Re: Magellan]
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Registered: 03/18/12
Posts: 26
Loc: CA desert
I stopped smoking weed on Veterans Day. I had to, smoking wasn't fun anymore. If AA program wasn't right for you. Find something that does work. You have to make a healthier choice and stick to it.
Suggestions: Journaling, chatting, Art, yoga, moving, sweating, knitting. I don't know. Anything….
For me, On Vets day, i woke up and I was like hmm. After smoking all that good shit the night before, i mean the best, and i STILL WOKE UP SOBER. Why don't i just go to bed sober? So i did and I have been sober ever since.
Now i had some beers w a friend last week that was cool. But even then, why did i drink?
Find the honest truths about yourself. Get to the root. And then find a way to deal with those issues. Stop numbing the pain. Feel the feelings.
For me it is Yoga. The breathing hard, working my body and yet being still. And still sweating my ass off. I haven't sweat like that in ages. And some how, I am connecting to me, my soul and my feelings. At the end of the class, such bliss.
The money i am speeding on yoga classes is cheaper than the weed i was buying. My body thanks me and my spirit thanks me.
That is what i am doing and its working for me now.

p.s. For all of you in the A.A program, I know the program works. I support it 100%. It was just not for me. Sobriety on any level is better than using. Period.
Just do the best you can today. And keep on trying. You will find what works for you.


Edited by ScottSmith (01/08/14 10:15 AM)
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