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#452084 - 10/31/13 08:17 PM Pedophilia is a Sexual Orientation
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Registered: 12/05/12
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I came across this today the American Psychological Association has pronounced that Pedophilia is a Sexual Orientation makes me ill to think about it.


http://shar.es/IjLsi

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#452091 - 10/31/13 09:26 PM Re: Pedophilia is a Sexual Orientation [Re: Lost Mountain]
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There is no cure they should all be locked up for life

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#452105 - 10/31/13 10:14 PM Pedophilia is a Sexual Orientation? [Re: Lost Mountain]
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http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=64379&Number=452121#Post452121 visit the above url or read the post below to see what I was trying to put here.
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#452207 - 11/02/13 02:52 AM Re: Pedophilia is a Sexual Orientation? [Re: Lost Mountain]
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Originally Posted By: victor-victim
here is an important document from
the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).
the DSM is the standard classification of mental disorders used by mental health professionals in the United States and contains a listing of diagnostic criteria for every psychiatric disorder recognized by the U.S. healthcare system. the American Psychiatric Association.

* http://www.dsm5.org/Documents/13-67-DSM-Correction-103113.pdf
* http://www.dsm5.org/Documents/Paraphilic%20Disorders%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf

"In the case of pedophilic disorder, the diagnostic criteria essentially remained the same as in DSM-IV-TR. Only the disorder name was changed from “pedophilia” to “pedophilic disorder” to maintain consistency with the chapter’s other disorder listings.
“Sexual orientation” is not a term used in the diagnostic criteria for pedophilic disorder and its use in the DSM-5 text discussion is an error and should read “sexual interest.” In fact, APA considers pedophilic disorder a “paraphilia,” not a “sexual orientation.” This error will be corrected in the electronic version of DSM-5 and the next printing of the manual.
APA stands firmly behind efforts to criminally prosecute those who sexually abuse and exploit children and adolescents. We also support continued efforts to develop treatments for those with pedophilic disorder with the goal of preventing future acts of abuse.
"

"I am now going to turn from matters that apply to all the paraphilias to my proposal for one specific paraphilia, which is presently called pedophilia. The first thing you will notice is that I have proposed changing the name of the entity from Pedophilia to Pedohebephilic Disorder. You will, of course, want to know the meaning of the word “Pedohebephilic.” This is a compound of two words: pedophilic and hebephilic. Pedophilia, as classically defined by Krafft-Ebing and as still defined in the DSM, denotes sexual attraction to prepubescent children. The word hebephilia, which was coined in the 1950’s, denotes sexual attraction to pubescent children."

LETTER FROM American Psychiatric Association
http://web.archive.org/web/19991010055703/http://www.apa.org/releases/delay.html

"We do not support the "normalization" or decriminalization of any form of sexual relations between adults and children.
Such behavior must remain criminal and punishable to the full extent of the law.
It is the position of the Association that sexual activity between children and adults should never be considered or labeled as harmless or acceptable.
Furthermore, it is the position of the Association that children cannot consent to sexual activity with adults.
"

research sources: trigger warnings
* http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter...bout-pedophilia
* http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
* http://www.b4uact.org/science/symp/2011/speaker/Breslow_abstract.pdf
* http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jan/03/paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-light
* http://www.jaapl.org/content/39/2/242.full.pdf
* http://www.b4uact.org/science/symp/2011/speaker/Berlin_abstract.pdf
* http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2011/12/4440/
* http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/articles/psychopathology-and-personality-traits-pedophiles
* http://www.b4uact.org/ref/Kramer-20101030.pdf
* http://www.b4uact.org/science/symp/2011/speaker/Sorrentino_abstract.pdf
* http://www.jaapl.org/content/39/1/78.full.pdf
* http://www.neontommy.com/news/2013/10/pedophilia-sexual-orientation
* http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea/20...rientation.html
* http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthroc...a-to-be-normal/
* http://individual.utoronto.ca/ray_blanchard/index_files/WAS_DSM.html
* http://individual.utoronto.ca/ray_blanchard/index_files/EPES.html
* http://afa.net/Media/PressRelease.aspx?id=2147540542
* http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/20...le-hangout.html
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KN0MkiGZvY
* http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/15/conference-aims-to-normalize-pedophilia/
* http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14/local/la-me-pedophiles-20130115
* http://www.b4uact.org/science/symp/2011/speaker/Kramer_abstract.pdf
* http://www.b4uact.org/science/symp/2011/Proceedings.pdf
* http://www.b4uact.org/science/symp/2011/proceedings.htm
* http://www.charismanews.com/us/41597-pedophilia-not-classified-as-sexual-orientation-afa-mistaken
* http://www.b4uact.org/ref/APA-2000-DSM4TR-pedophilia.pdf
* http://www.ipce.info/library_3/rbt/metaana.pdf
* http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10508-008-9399-9
* http://b4uact.org/

CANADA: 40th PARLIAMENT, 3rd SESSION
Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights

Universite de Montreal professor, Dr. Hubert Van Gijseghem, tells Members that pedophilia is a sexual orientation just like heterosexuality or homosexuality.
* http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=4959361


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#452227 - 11/02/13 11:21 AM Re: Pedophilia is a Sexual Orientation? [Re: Lost Mountain]
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I do not believe the APA. The APA is now the IPA. (Idiot's Psychological Association).

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#452262 - 11/02/13 06:03 PM ! [Re: Lost Mountain]
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Edited by Smalltown80sBoy (02/28/14 10:24 PM)

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#452266 - 11/02/13 06:31 PM ! [Re: Lost Mountain]
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Edited by Smalltown80sBoy (02/28/14 10:24 PM)

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#452275 - 11/02/13 07:37 PM Re: Pedophilia is a Sexual Orientation [Re: Lost Mountain]
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Registered: 06/10/12
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Loc: Ohio
As always, I appreciate the posts that truly bring us together. Unfortunately, one of link to the pathos article was not available. I was able to learn so much though including how not to respond to the marriage debate. Very insightful to learn how as a bi male I have it all wrong:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/faithonthec...-to-do-instead/

I also learned that should I need to seek a new mental health professional I need to mention a mental illness the site was able to diagnose for me: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/faithonthecouch/2013/08/is-atheism-a-mental-illness/

I appreciate the wealth of information and continued sensitivity for you fellow survivors.
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#452287 - 11/02/13 10:10 PM Re: Pedophilia is a Sexual Orientation [Re: Lost Mountain]
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Registered: 01/22/13
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Loc: upper south
Lost Mtn: excellent, interesting thread. I read the article and I, too, am just so tired of the "sky is falling" antics of the ultras. It was just insulting to read. I tend to think along the same lines as Gary. MF relationship does not mean M attracted to a little girl, or F attracted to a little boy.

Matt. I am so naive. What in the world did I just read? I can not believe dialogue such as this actually exists, being passed off as truth. Thanks for the links... I can now debate marriage on an intellectual level- NOT. btw...wonder how my single parenthood caused by being "widowed" fits in. My youngest was still in school at the time.
I even read some of the comments listed below the article... oh, Lord.

I clicked on the second link and just couldn't go with the lack of respect for the IQ in the intro so I closed it down.... perhaps mine is lower than I thought.
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#452575 - 11/05/13 04:09 PM Re: Pedophilia is a Sexual Orientation [Re: Lost Mountain]
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Registered: 07/14/12
Posts: 413
Loc: USA
I totally agree that no organization should ever call pedophilia an "orientation" as that gets scary. Calling it a disorder or mental illness seems a better fit. Maybe just that and that alone. Don't tie it to any orientation, just let it stand alone as a sickness for which there is no cure.
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