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#448912 - 10/01/13 05:59 PM Re: How can there be a God [Re: On The Fringe]
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"i don't understand why people just gravitate to evil so often" either, i can't answer for them...

but i know why I did (and still do).
i am weak.

MATTHEW 26:41
"Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak."
http://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/26.htm




ROMANS ch:7
"I do not understand what I do.
For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do.
And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good.
As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me.
I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature.
For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.
For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing
."
http://www.biblestudytools.com/romans/7.html


we all have our own cross to carry.
if i choose to use my cross as a crutch,
if i decide to follow christ
i feel no shame in that.
i need a crutch.
i am crippled.


LUKE 22:42
“Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done

JOHN 6:38
"For i have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me."

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#450025 - 10/13/13 01:53 AM Re: How can there be a God [Re: kiwi64]
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"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." Steven Weinberg 1979 Nobel Prize Physics
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#450026 - 10/13/13 02:57 AM Re: How can there be a God [Re: mattheal]
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many religions are an insult to god.


disclaimer: in my opinion


Edited by victor-victim (10/15/13 01:30 AM)
Edit Reason: added disclaimer
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#450073 - 10/13/13 04:14 PM Re: How can there be a God [Re: mattheal]
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Originally Posted By: mattheal
" But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." Steven Weinberg 1979 Nobel Prize Physics


I think "religion" can take many forms, including the worship of money, power and control. That's the only way the above quote could explain people like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Kim Jung Il, Jeff Dahmer or Jim Jones. Yet, some would maintain the argument against religion only applies to Christians and Jews. None of the above mentioned (clearly evil people) were either by the way. Several were atheists too and others agnostic. Even so, to say all atheists or agnostics are evil, is as bad as saying the same thing about all people of faith.
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#450575 - 10/18/13 04:37 PM Re: How can there be a God [Re: BuffaloCO]
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#450645 - 10/19/13 01:21 PM Re: How can there be a God [Re: mattheal]
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Originally Posted By: mattheal
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." Steven Weinberg 1979 Nobel Prize Physics


A guy with that sort of animosity can't be objective on the topic.

Or...

Haters gonna hate....
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#450650 - 10/19/13 02:50 PM Re: How can there be a God [Re: kiwi64]
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Totally agree OTF, though the counter argument we get might be: well you started it. I don't agree with that either.
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#450753 - 10/21/13 08:02 AM Re: How can there be a God [Re: kiwi64]
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Serious Question:

If a person does not believe in God or some deity, what do/ought we believe-in?


Somehow this thread went off the rails into religion. Its not addressing the original question.
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#450778 - 10/21/13 09:59 AM Re: How can there be a God [Re: kiwi64]
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good point, still!

all of my beliefs would probly not be totally accepted by any known "religion." and i am often too afraid to articulate them because of the fear of criticism, judgement, and rejection. lots of preconceptions and false assumptions out there. wish we could focus more on the positive points instead of the negative ones. sounds so trite but ...

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#450780 - 10/21/13 10:10 AM Re: How can there be a God [Re: kiwi64]
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My pastor said recently that we should focus more on what we are for, instead of what we are against. Doesn't mean we have to give up who we are but might make the idea of being a believer less scary to some.
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