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#439175 - 06/25/13 11:06 AM Addicted to talking to others about woes
Magellan Offline
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Registered: 12/31/10
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Loc: California
I'm doing my 9th step amends to myself in alanon. It's a 110% effort.

My sponsor has encouraged me to look at the words I use to describe myself to others (and to myself). He's also been trying to steer conversations away from my being depressed and talking about how hard my life has been. Something in my gut told me that while this seems counter productive and counter intuitive, I went with it anyway, just to see what would happen.

Feels like something is shifting in me. And I'm coming to see that perhaps I was trained to sit on the pity pot and trained to seek pity from others, and trained to scream out of self pity. THANKS MOM!

Perhaps it was the only way I could get my mom to pay attention to me (by acting sick). Otherwise, she ignored me. She groomed me to be an angry victim in my own life because it was the only way I could get her neglectful narcisistic ass to pay any attention to me, and i mistook it for 'love'.

Ugh. So I've spent the last few months basically pretending with just about everyone I know that everything is fine and dandy while suffering immensely inside.

Something's changed this past week or so. It almost feels like a certain freedom of mind now that I've 'kicked the habit'. I don't want to wallow in pain, and I want to find the quickest way out. And hey! There IS a way out! I just have to do the footwork that I have to do (eat right, meditate, laugh, do something I enjoy, and socialize), and I'm pulling myself out of the quagmire. Not having said a WORD to anyone about how hard it's been or how depressed I've been. Except, I've been taking the occasional shit on the shiny floor here at MS. Sorry about that.

During this time, I've also stopped going to alanon meetings. Tired of being surrounded by people talking about THEIR problems, and how horrible my problems are compared to theirs.

The truth is, yes, I do have problems, and I do have dysfunctions, but I've proved myself capable at this age of 41 that I'm able to learn and grow and eventually conquer my problems ON MY OWN.

Is anyone else familiar with what I'm talking about? Not being addicted to pain itself (I'm not), but addicted to telling OTHERS about your pain? As if talking to someone else would get some sort of connection of empathy or sympathy or even pity?



Edited by Magellan (06/25/13 03:10 PM)
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#439736 - 07/01/13 10:36 PM Re: Addicted to talking to others about woes [Re: Magellan]
focusedbody Offline


Registered: 02/03/13
Posts: 363
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: Magellan

Is anyone else familiar with what I'm talking about? Not being addicted to pain itself (I'm not), but addicted to telling OTHERS about your pain? As if talking to someone else would get some sort of connection of empathy or sympathy or even pity?


Magellan:

This has been a difficult dynamic for me to handle. Especially with Mom. She has been an inaccurate sharer of pain for many years. That is, giving to much to the idea that we all have to be in some kind of communal grope of pain, as if life were in an eternal encounter group.

Ironically, when I finally started saying no to doing this with her, it slowly became possible for her to hear my real pain. As you say, the constant expectation of empathy and sympathy can be a real drag. When true pain is expressed directly, it requires no solicitation. It is part of who one is, unmistakable and undeniable. And when it is witnessed in this way, I have experienced an ability to move through it.

For what it's worth...

FB
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#444348 - 08/14/13 11:32 PM Re: Addicted to talking to others about woes [Re: Magellan]
Magellan Offline
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I've come back to re-read your response, Focusedbody. And my breath is taken away.

Yes - my mom raised me exactly the same way - that we're in a communal grope of pain.

We even made a pact together when I was 12 that we would not commit suicide because we would not abandon each other in this life.

Ugh. UUUUUUGH...
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#444360 - 08/15/13 01:35 AM Re: Addicted to talking to others about woes [Re: Magellan]
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Registered: 08/09/12
Posts: 1585
Loc: New England
I have been an expert at manipulating others by inspiring pity in them, for myself. I believed that was the only way to get people to care about me. That they would otherwise abandon me. "Poor me, can you believe what I've been through? Don't you feel guilty for not being as messed up as I am?" It worked until it didn't.
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That's why I'm telling you
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