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#443507 - 08/06/13 12:00 PM Evil Society Hates Us
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13 yo girls raped and then publicly called names making them responsible for their own horror.

"When the honor roll kids' tweet—calling a 13-year-old rape victim a whore—is on the front page of the newspaper, you can't really walk away from that,"

I [Still] wish I could say this is an unusual phenom, but its not. The pendulum is swinging back toward blaming even the child victims.

Article link: Blame the little girls.
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#443510 - 08/06/13 12:41 PM Re: Evil Society Hates Us [Re: Still]
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It said that the victim-blaming was coming from other teenagers but that the adults did the right thing.
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#443518 - 08/06/13 01:50 PM Re: Evil Society Hates Us [Re: SoccerStar]
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I guess that would be expected.
The rich and famous have a lot of sociopathy.
Yes, their tendency would be to blame their victims for what they themselves did.

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#443526 - 08/06/13 02:35 PM Re: Evil Society Hates Us [Re: Still]
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Bring justice to these two perps, get these girls the help they need, and shame on the those who tweeted out such vitriol. By the way, why do I feel "honor roll kids" is really just codespeak for "popular kids?" When I was younger it was almost always the popular kids who would do things like this while the mid-tier to unpopular kids said/did nothing out of fear of the consequences and in the hope of some adult taking action. Dat Diffusion of Responsibility...
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#443543 - 08/06/13 05:06 PM Re: Evil Society Hates Us [Re: Still]
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this is absolutely terrible.
the worst of human nature.
that social stigma could be worse than what initiated it.
it certainly complicates the emotional damage.
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#443553 - 08/06/13 06:40 PM Re: Evil Society Hates Us [Re: Still]
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I read this earlier, about another 13 year old girl. The judge actually blames her and pretty much lets the 41 year old guy off the hook. Makes you wonder what he gets up to in his spare time.

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#443555 - 08/06/13 06:46 PM Re: Evil Society Hates Us [Re: Still]
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13 year old girl Called 'Sex Predator' By Judge

if a child is behaving in a sexually predatory fashion,
it is the duty of a 41 year old adult to give aid and advocate the rescue and protection of that child.

this is the kind of post trauma stress that inhibits disclosure and reinforces silence in victims.
like i often say...
it is hard to tell where the ignorance ends and the evil begins.
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#443566 - 08/06/13 09:50 PM Re: Evil Society Hates Us [Re: Still]
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"it is hard to tell where the ignorance ends and the evil begins."

If I may I will be using this in the future. There are far too many situations where willful ignorance seems to be the default stance of persons in authority. Also, we should note that the general term of predator tends to be applied to species of superior strength and ability. You would never hear of an antelope acting in a predatory fashion toward a lion but apparently in London you can hear about a 13 year old girl acting in a predatory fashion toward a 41 year old man.
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#443610 - 08/07/13 08:43 AM Re: Evil Society Hates Us [Re: txb]
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Originally Posted By: txb
I read this earlier, about another 13 year old girl. The judge actually blames her and pretty much lets the 41 year old guy off the hook. Makes you wonder what he gets up to in his spare time.


http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-08-07/petition-calls-for-cps-investigation-after-court-comments/

here is the on-line petition
http://www.change.org/dontblamethevictim

The latest row comes after paedophile Neil Wilson, 41, walked free from court despite admitting he engaged in sexual activity with a 13 year old girl at his home.

When police arrived at Wilson’s house, they searched his computer and found images of child sexual abuse and videos depicting bestiality.

He was given an eight-month suspended prison sentence after prosecutor Robert Colover reportedly told the hearing at London's Snaresbrook Crown Court: "The girl is predatory in all her actions and she is sexually experienced."
http://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/bob-colover
http://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/about/contact-us

Judge Nigel Peters also referred to the victim as 'predatory' and said she had 'egged on' her abuser.
http://www.18rlc.co.uk/news/nigel-peters-qc-called-circuit-bench
http://www.18rlc.co.uk/contact
http://www.lords.org/mcc/the-club/mcc-committee/
http://www.lords.org/contact-us/departmental-contacts/
http://www.lincolnsinn.org.uk/index.php/about-us/our-membership/list-of-benchers
http://www.lincolnsinn.org.uk/index.php/contact-us

In a string of tweets appearing to defend Colover, Barbara Hewson, a barrister for Hardwicke Chambers, wrote: "It takes two to tango. Disgusting tho' these men are, frankly the girls are often not much better - and no shrieking martyrs."
source: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/08/07/barbara-hewson-predatory-comments_n_3717529.html

http://www.hardwicke.co.uk/people/hewson-barbara
http://www.hardwicke.co.uk/contact-us


caution: very upsetting!

Barbara Hewson laughs at child sex abuse victims


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DR6EEl0H64

this woman also advocates lowering the age of consent to 13 and denounces the persecution of pedophiles.
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/13604#.UgJCstzn9oI

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cri...rl-8748494.html


someone has posted a similar thread with another shocking story about "blame-the-victim"
http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=443774#Post443774
very disturbing.
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#443693 - 08/07/13 11:11 PM Re: Evil Society Hates Us [Re: Still]
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... media obsession with sex crimes and underage sex ... no prosecution for old men or Hitler... wtf. ......yes. was a trigger....

Jaw dropping. Simply jaw dropping.
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#443696 - 08/07/13 11:21 PM Re: Evil Society Hates Us [Re: Still]
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Where is this "blame the victim" mindset coming from? Why is there a move to at least let the victim share a part of the responsibility for the rape?

That was the experience I had that I shared with you guys with my last T. Even as a middle aged guy I found/find that accusation difficult to deal with-and I still do at times. I wonder how a 13 year old would deal with being called the things she was called and told it was her fault? The behavior of the court system in this case has behaved totally inappropriately.

Thanks for all the links and the articles and video.
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