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#441489 - 07/20/13 04:42 PM mon dieu
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Registered: 09/27/03
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Loc: O Kanada
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#441491 - 07/20/13 05:00 PM Re: mon dieu [Re: victor-victim]
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C'est drole parce que je viens d'ecrire qqc a Facebook en francais...ca me fait sourire quand je vois qu'il y a des gens ici qui s'exprimer en autres langues.
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#441498 - 07/20/13 05:20 PM Re: mon dieu [Re: victor-victim]
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Registered: 09/27/03
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merci, mon ami.

je parles francais, mais tres mal.
j'essaie tous jours.

la vie est belle au montreal.
et la vie au gai paris

take a two minute tour.


I love Paris in the winter when it drizzles.
I love Paris in the summer when it sizzles
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#441519 - 07/20/13 08:04 PM Re: mon dieu [Re: victor-victim]
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Registered: 01/28/10
Posts: 204
Loc: canada
Tres bien. Mon francais est terrible, mais je dois faux parce que je suis Canadian. Aimee toujours votre poemes, n'importre pas quelle langue. Et je suis tres desole pour les personnel francais pour mon usage terrible de la langue. wink

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#441546 - 07/20/13 11:54 PM Re: mon dieu [Re: victor-victim]
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Registered: 10/30/12
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Loc: Canada
Tres bien!
Des Canadiens bilingue.

Mon Francais est effreyant ... et je vais pas prendre le temps pour faire certain que c'est correct.
Je suis nee Francais avec Anglais pour ma langue secondaire ...
mais ca fais 40 ans que je ne vie pas dans un milieu oux j'ai la chance de parlez en Francais ...

But sometimes my mind reverts to thinking in French
especially when it comes to religion ... and certain emotions.
That little poem I wrote was an example of how my mind 'flickers' back and forth sometimes.
It's odd.
It has nothing to do with it ... but the seduction I was subjected to ...
the endearments and flattery and cajoling was said in French.
Somehow ... that little poem needed to be expressed in the way it was.
I was abused ... overlooked and dismissed and unseen and unheard
in French.

Et ca est pourquoie.
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#441547 - 07/20/13 11:55 PM Re: mon dieu [Re: victor-victim]
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v-v ... je comprend.
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#441554 - 07/21/13 12:30 AM Re: mon dieu [Re: victor-victim]
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salut, bey.
merci bien.
pas problem.
vous parlez francais plus bien qu'elle que moi.


Monsieur Skyshark,
merci, pour votre reaction.
où est le petit poème que vous avez écrit en français?

comment mal est mon francais?
est mon poème raisonnable ou absurde?



La creación del mundo.
Au français, s'il vous plaît.
Voilà, c'est moi.
Je suis ici.
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#441643 - 07/21/13 09:42 PM Re: mon dieu [Re: victor-victim]
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Registered: 10/30/12
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Monsieur v-v
Your French is better than mine.
lol
What started this exorcise in bilingual expression was the second
thing I wrote in my my poem 'alone again'

Your poem is ... raw ... viscerally evocative ...
a credit to the angst you feel.
I couldn't have said it better myself ...
and ...
I could never have said it as well as you did in French.

The words I've just written is what should have begun or ended
what I said here earlier ... after 'Tres bien' ...
and I'm ashamed that I didn't say it then.
I apologize.

I have a problem.

... and now I'm stuck.
I've spent quite literally hours trying to continue ...
to explain ... and I can't.
Know this v-v
Everybody who is a regular in Poetry ...
please know.
I appreciate everything.
I read everything.
I make comments about everything people write ...
but almost always ...
I can't hit the submit button.
What I say about myself is mine ... it can't be disputed.
What I say about or to others is subject to interpretation ...
judgement ... misunderstanding ...
It just leaves me too vulnerable.
Rather than say what could be the wrong thing ...
I say very little ... or nothing.

I hope this makes sense because if I don't hit submit right now I won't be able to.
I'm sorry.
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#441661 - 07/21/13 10:58 PM Re: mon dieu [Re: victor-victim]
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you are talking to an insensitive oblivious motor mouth jerk who regularly and unintentionally offends people.
just by being open and honest.

sometimes i am not even aware that i did it, and then i am confused as to "what did i say?"

i am so hard and impervious to personal attacks from years of extreme abuse and conflict, it takes a lot to get me riled.

i have a blackened soul, a heart of stone, a thick skull, a rhino hide, and a teflon suit.
nothing really bothers me, and if it gets through all that armour, it passes right through me very quickly.
years of practice i guess.
so sometimes, it often bothers me that others are not so hard as i am.

some people are as nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
i am more like a bull in a china shop.
or more accurately, i feel like a porcupine in a room full of balloons.

because i don't get easily offended, it is hard for me to imagine why so many other people imagine insults in my words.

anyway, feel free to say what you want to me.
i will let you know if you are crossing the line.

i dare you to hit the submit, and roll the dice.

if you say something "offensive" to someone "sensitive",
you can always retract, edit, or delete it later.

and... as i have taught and told my children...
whenever you hurt someone...
regardless of whether you intend to offend...
don't forget to accept, acknowledge, apologize, and atone.


p.s.

thank you so much for your kind words and the great review.

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#441680 - 07/22/13 12:28 AM Re: mon dieu [Re: victor-victim]
bey Offline


Registered: 01/28/10
Posts: 204
Loc: canada
Shyshark I also read everything posted in this forum and also find it hard to comment, even though I want to.
Thanks for your honesty and venerability, I think I am going to make more of an effort to comment when I have something to say.
And vv and Shyshark, I really truly love the things you write. So often they just cut right to the core of something. Thanks,
Ben

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