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#436782 - 06/04/13 03:07 AM LOVE in scripture
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dedicated to all my fellow survivors!




If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
For we know in part and we prophesy in part,
But when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.
When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me.
For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

1 Corinthians 13

http://www.biblegateway.com/audio/mclean/kjv/1Cor.13


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#439201 - 06/25/13 06:46 PM Re: 1 Corinthians 13 [Re: victor-victim]
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VV- this is more important to me than any philosophical, theological discussion I could involve myself in. Topical discussion sway me neither to the right nor the left. But LOVE... It is non-threatening and beautiful...and I needed so much to read it tonight. Thank you, my friend.

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#443598 - 08/07/13 03:16 AM 1 John 4:7-21 [Re: ThisMan]
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i got some more love for you all.


Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God,
and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God.
Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.
In this the love of God was made manifest among us,
that God sent his only Son into the world, so that we might live through him.
In this is love, not that we have loved God
but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
No one has ever seen God;
if we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us.
By this we know that we abide in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit.
And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.
Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God,
God abides in him, and he in God.
So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us.
God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.
By this is love perfected with us, so that we may have confidence for the day of judgment,
because as he is so also are we in this world.
There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear.
For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
We love because he first loved us.
If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar;
for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.
And this commandment we have from him:
whoever loves God must also love his brother.

1 John 4:7-21


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#444217 - 08/13/13 03:15 PM Matthew 5:43-48 [Re: ThisMan]
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Dear ThisMan,

i want to share some practical advice about love i received from yeshua (aka jesus).


"You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
that you may be children of your Father in heaven.
He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good,
and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
If you love those who love you, what reward will you get?
Are not even the tax collectors doing that?
And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others?
Do not even pagans do that?
Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
"
Matthew 5:43-48
(words attributed to Jesus)



well, there you have it.
mission: impossible.
high standards, to be sure.
perfection is difficult to ponder, let alone perform.

but it is written, clearly.

this passage from the sermon on the mount is one of the reasons i chose to reject Christianity as ridiculous and weak.
i did not agree with this philosophy of peace for most of my life, because it did not approve my precious desires for power over other people.
i did not see the divine logic behind this simple truth.

it is victory over fear!
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#447596 - 09/19/13 01:10 AM Re: 1 Corinthians 13 [Re: victor-victim]
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Time for some more LOVE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0-oKM76bAM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1fRIvk7H5E



not exactly scriptural,
but feels good...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLw_K-W3GNE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fuQvc6sEwg



The power of love is a curious thing
Make a one man weep, make another man sing
Change a hawk to a little white dove
More than a feeling that's the power of love

Tougher than diamonds, rich like cream
Stronger and harder than a bad girl's dream
Make a bad one good make a wrong one right
Power of love that keeps you home at night

Chorus 1 :
You don't need money, don't take fame
Don't need no credit card to ride this train
It's strong and it's sudden and it's cruel sometimes
But it might just save your life
That's the power of love
That's the power of love

First time you feel it, it might make you sad
Next time you feel it it might make you mad
But you'll be glad baby when you've found
That's the power makes the world go'round

Chorus 2 :
And it don't take money, don't take fame
Don't need no credit card to ride this train
It's strong and it's sudden it can be cruel sometimes
But it might just save your life

They say that all in love is fair
Yeah, but you don't care
But you know what to do
When it gets hold of you
And with a little help from above
You feel the power of love
You feel the power of love
Can you feel it ?
Hmmm

Chorus 3 :
It don't take money and it don't take fame
Don't need no credit card to ride this train
Tougher than diamonds and stronger than steel
You won't feel nothin' till you feel
You feel the power, just the power of love
That's the power, that's the power of love
You feel the power of love
You feel the power of love
Feel the power of love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMkU-Qf_3N0


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#451370 - 10/26/13 06:15 PM Song of Solomon CH:8 [Re: victor-victim]
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Place me as a seal upon your heart,
As a seal upon your arm,
For LOVE is as strong as death,
And exclusive devotion is as unyielding as the Grave.
Its flames are a blazing fire, the flame of JAH.
Surging waters cannot extinguish LOVE,
Nor can rivers wash it away.
If a man would offer all the wealth of his house for LOVE,
It would be utterly despised.

Song of Solomon CH:8


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#453910 - 11/15/13 11:14 PM Romans 13:8-10 [Re: victor-victim]
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What the World needs Now is LOVE sweet LOVE

dedicated to all my brother survivors.

Romans 13:8-10

Owe no one anything except to LOVE one another, for he who LOVES another has fulfilled the law.
For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall LOVE your neighbor as yourself.”
LOVE does no harm to a neighbor; therefore LOVE is the fulfillment of the law.

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-Chapter-13/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfeKffUpgN8

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#454315 - 11/18/13 04:12 PM 1 John 2:3-11 [Re: victor-victim]
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more love from god through me to you.

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.

He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.


http://christiananswers.net/bible/1john2.html
1 John 2:3-11




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#454334 - 11/18/13 05:46 PM Re: 1 John 2:3-11 [Re: victor-victim]
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“This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, says the LORD

Zechariah 4-6
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#454382 - 11/19/13 12:39 AM 1 JOHN 4:7-21 [Re: Frustrated]
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i like that very much.

thank you.


got some more love for y'all.

Dear friends, let us LOVE one another, for LOVE comes from God.
Everyone who LOVES has been born of God and knows God.
Whoever does not LOVE does not know God, because God is LOVE.
This is how God showed his LOVE among us:
He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him.
This is LOVE: not that we LOVED God,
but that he LOVED us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.

Dear friends, since God so LOVED us, we also ought to LOVE one another.
No one has ever seen God; but if we LOVE one another,
God lives in us and his LOVE is made complete in us.

This is how we know that we live in him and he in us:
He has given us of his Spirit.
And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.
If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God,
God lives in them and they in God.
And so we know and rely on the LOVE God has for us.

God is LOVE.
Whoever lives in LOVE lives in God, and God in them.
This is how LOVE is made complete among us
so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment:
In this world we are like Jesus.
There is no fear in LOVE.
But perfect LOVE drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment.
The one who fears is not made perfect in LOVE.

We LOVE because he first LOVED us.
Whoever claims to LOVE God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar.
For whoever does not LOVE their brother and sister, whom they have seen,
cannot LOVE God, whom they have not seen.
And he has given us this command:
Anyone who LOVES God must also LOVE their brother and sister.


1 JOHN 4:7-21

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#454387 - 11/19/13 12:57 AM JOHN 17:21-26 [Re: victor-victim]
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That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee,
that they also may be one in us:
that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them;
that they may be one, even as we are one:

I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one;
and that the world may know that thou hast sent me,
and hast loved them,
as thou hast loved me.

Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am;
that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me:
for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee:
but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.

And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it:
that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

words attributed to
JOHN 17:21-26
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-Chapter-17/
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#454388 - 11/19/13 01:23 AM ROMANS 8:37-39 [Re: Frustrated]
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a message of love from the apostle paul.

For in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

ROMANS 8:37-39
http://www.biblestudytools.com/romans/8.html

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#454930 - 11/24/13 04:24 AM Romans 12:9-21 [Re: victor-victim]
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LOVE must be sincere.
Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.
Be devoted to one another in LOVE.
Honor one another above yourselves.
Never be lacking in zeal,
but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord.
Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer.
Share with the Lord’s people who are in need. Practice hospitality.
Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.
Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn.
Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.
Do not repay anyone evil for evil.
Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone.
If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.
Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath,
for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord.
On the contrary: “If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head
.”
Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.


Romans 12:9-21
http://biblia.com/books/nrsv/Ro12.9
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#455320 - 11/28/13 01:59 AM 1 john 3:10-23 [Re: victor-victim]
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In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:
whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God,
neither he that loveth not his brother.
For this is the message which ye heard from the beginning,
that we should love one another:
not as Cain was of the evil one, and slew his brother.
And wherefore slew he him?
Because his works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
Marvel not, brethren, if the world hateth you.
We know that we have passed out of death into life,
because we love the brethren.
He that loveth not abideth in death.
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer:
and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
Hereby know we love,
because he laid down his life for us:
and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
But whoso hath the world's goods,
and beholdeth his brother in need,
and shutteth up his compassion from him,
how doth the love of God abide in him?
My Little children, let us not love in word, neither with the tongue;
but in deed and truth.
Hereby shall we know that we are of the truth,
and shall assure our heart before him:
because if our heart condemn us,
God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
Beloved, if our heart condemn us not,
we have boldness toward God;
and whatsoever we ask we receive of him,
because we keep his commandments and do the things that are pleasing in his sight.
And this is his commandment, that we should believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ,
and love one another,
even as he gave us commandment.


1 John 3:10-23

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#455468 - 11/29/13 03:13 PM john 15:9-17 [Re: victor-victim]
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As the Father has LOVED me, so have I LOVED you.
Now remain in my LOVE.
If you keep my commands, you will remain in my LOVE,
just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his LOVE.
I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete.
My command is this: LOVE each other as I have LOVED you.
Greater LOVE has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.
You are my friends if you do what I command.
I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business.
Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit,
fruit that will last, and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you.
This is my command: LOVE each other.


john 15:9-17
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-Chapter-15/



For God so LOVED the world that he gave his one and only Son,
that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.


john 3:16


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#455578 - 11/30/13 01:32 PM 2 Peter 1:1-7 [Re: victor-victim]
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To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:

Grace and peace be yours in abundance through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord.
His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.
Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

For this very reason, make every effort
to add to your faith goodness;
and to goodness, knowledge;
and to knowledge, self-control;
and to self-control, perseverance;
and to perseverance, godliness;
and to godliness, mutual affection;
and to mutual affection, love.


2 Peter 1:1-7

http://www.thefishermenministry.org/ii-peter-1/
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#455667 - 11/30/13 11:45 PM Micah 6:8 [Re: victor-victim]
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He has showed you, O man,
what is good.
And what does the LORD require of you?
To act justly
and to love mercy
and to walk humbly with your God.

Micah 6:8



http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1806.htm
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Micah+6
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#456165 - 12/06/13 02:30 AM 1 peter 4:8-10 [Re: victor-victim]
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And above all things have fervent love for one another,
for love will cover a multitude of sins.
Be hospitable to one another without grumbling.
As each one has received a gift, minister it to one another,
as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.


1 peter 4:8-10
http://www.biblestudytools.com/msg/1-peter/4.html






The mouth of the righteous is a well of life,
But violence covers the mouth of the wicked.
Hatred stirs up strife,
But love covers all sins.


proverbs 10:11-12
http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/matthew-henry-complete/proverbs/10.html
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#456166 - 12/06/13 02:54 AM Ephesians 4:31 - 5:2 [Re: victor-victim]
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Originally Posted By: King James Bible
Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you.

Therefore be imitators of God as dear children. And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma.



Ephesians 4:31 - 5:2
http://www.textweek.com/pauline/eph4_5.htm
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#456233 - 12/06/13 07:09 PM Matthew 22:36-40 [Re: victor-victim]
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Matthew 22:36-40

36) Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

37) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38) This is the first and great commandment.

39) And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40) On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.





Deuteronomy 6:5

Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.



Leviticus 19:18

Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord.


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#457075 - 12/19/13 02:56 PM 2 John 1:3-6 [Re: victor-victim]
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Grace, mercy, and peace will be with you from God the Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and LOVE.
I rejoiced greatly that I have found some of your children walking in truth, as we received commandment from the Father.
And now I plead with you, not as though I wrote a new commandment to you, but that which we have had from the beginning: that we LOVE one another.
This is LOVE, that we walk according to His commandments.
This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.



2 John 1:3-6
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#459622 - 01/28/14 08:00 PM Hebrews 13:1-3 [Re: victor-victim]
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Continue to love each other with true brotherly love.
Don’t forget to be kind to strangers,
for some who have done this
have entertained angels without realizing it!
Don’t forget about those in jail.
Suffer with them as though you were there yourself.
Share the sorrow of those being mistreated,
for you know what they are going through.

  Hebrews 13:1-3
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#459632 - 01/28/14 09:05 PM jhvh is love [Re: victor-victim]
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why should i love god?

because he loved me first.


Though the mountains be shaken
and the hills be removed,
yet my unfailing LOVE for you will not be shaken
nor my covenant of peace be removed,”
says the Lord, who has compassion on you
.
ISAIAH 54

“Do not fear, for I have redeemed you;
I have summoned you by name; you are mine.
When you pass through the waters,
I will be with you;
and when you pass through the rivers,
they will not sweep over you.
When you walk through the fire,
you will not be burned;
the flames will not set you ablaze.
For I am the Lord your God,
the Holy One of Israel, your Savior;
Since you are precious and honored in my sight,
and because I LOVE you.”

ISAIAH 43

Sing to Jehovah, all the earth!
Announce his salvation day after day!
Declare his glory among the nations,
His wonderful works among all the peoples.
For Jehovah is great and most worthy of praise.
He is more awe-inspiring than all other gods.
All the gods of the peoples are worthless gods,
But Jehovah is the one who made the heavens.
In his presence are majesty* and splendor;
Strength and joy are in his dwelling place.
Give Jehovah his due, you families of the peoples,
Give Jehovah his due for his glory and strength.
Give Jehovah the glory due his name;
Bring a gift and come in before him.
Bow down to Jehovah in holy adornment.
Tremble before him, all the earth!
The earth is firmly established; it cannot be moved.
Let the heavens rejoice, and let the earth be joyful;
Declare among the nations: ‘Jehovah has become King!’
Let the sea thunder and all that fills it;
Let the fields and everything in them rejoice.
At the same time let the trees of the forest shout joyfully before Jehovah,
For he is coming to judge the earth.
Give thanks to Jehovah, for he is good;
His loyal LOVE endures forever.

1 CHRONICLES 16


I cry out to God Most High,
to God, who vindicates me.
He sends from heaven and saves me,
rebuking those who hotly pursue me—
God sends forth his LOVE and his faithfulness.
I am in the midst of lions;
I am forced to dwell among ravenous beasts—
men whose teeth are spears and arrows,
whose tongues are sharp swords.
Be exalted, O God, above the heavens;
let your glory be over all the earth.
They spread a net for my feet—
I was bowed down in distress.
They dug a pit in my path—
but they have fallen into it themselves.
My heart, O God, is steadfast,
my heart is steadfast;
I will sing and make music.
Awake, my soul!
Awake, harp and lyre!
I will awaken the dawn.
I will praise you, Lord, among the nations;
I will sing of you among the peoples.
For great is your LOVE, reaching to the heavens;
your faithfulness reaches to the skies.

PSALM 57

“Because he LOVES me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him;
I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.
He will call on me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble,
I will deliver him and honor him.

PSALM 91


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#459769 - 01/30/14 11:09 AM Galatians 5 [Re: victor-victim]
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Galatians 5

The only thing that counts is faith
expressing itself through LOVE.
You, my brothers, were called to be free.
But do not use your freedom
to indulge the sinful nature;
rather, serve one another in LOVE.
The entire law is summed up in a single command:
"LOVE your neighbor as yourself."
If you keep on biting and devouring each other,
watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.
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#460621 - 02/13/14 06:58 AM Psalm 36 [Re: victor-victim]
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Your LOVE, Lord, reaches to the heavens,
your faithfulness to the skies.
Your righteousness is like the highest mountains,
your justice like the great deep.
You, Lord, preserve both people and animals.
How priceless is your unfailing LOVE, O God!
People take refuge in the shadow of your wings.
They feast on the abundance of your house;
you give them drink from your river of delights.
For with you is the fountain of life;
in your light we see light.
Continue your LOVE to those who know you,
your righteousness to the upright in heart.


PSALM 36
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#460773 - 02/15/14 05:44 AM Quadruple Love [Re: victor-victim]
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Looks like there are four types of LOVE in the GREEK bible.
( "Septuagint" and "Textus Receptus" )

Eros - physical love; sexual desire, lust.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Eros
Philia - a positive feeling of liking, affection, esteem.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Philia
Agape - love that is spiritual and selfless.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Agape
Storge - instinctive affection which parents have for their young.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Storge

looks like the bahai agree to some degree.

THE FOUR KINDS OF LOVE

they explain it this way.
(a) The love of God towards the identity of God. Christ has said God is Love.
(b) The love of God for His children—for His servants.
(c) The love of man for God and
(d) The love of man for man.

These four kinds of love originate from God.
These are rays from the Sun of Reality;
these are the Breathings of the Holy Spirit;
these are the Signs of the Reality.


for more information about the FOUR LOVES... check out this book by C.S.Lewis.
http://online.santarosa.edu/homepage/jaharonian/TheFourLoves.pdf
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#461145 - 02/19/14 11:36 PM a love note from our creator. [Re: victor-victim]
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This is what Jehovah says:
“Let not the wise man boast about his wisdom;
Let not the mighty man boast about his mightiness;
And let not the rich man boast about his riches.”
“But let the one boasting boast about this:
That he has insight and knowledge of me,
That I am Jehovah, the One showing loyal LOVE,
justice, and righteousness in the earth,
For in these things I take delight,” declares Jehovah.

Jeremiah 9:23-24

But, beLOVEd, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. But ye, beLOVEd, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, keep yourselves in the LOVE of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Jude 1:17-21

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#462242 - 03/08/14 07:52 PM PSALM 136 [Re: victor-victim]
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 Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good.
 His LOVE endures forever.
 Give thanks to the God of gods.
 His LOVE endures forever.
 Give thanks to the Lord of lords:
 His LOVE endures forever.
 to him who alone does great wonders,
 His LOVE endures forever.
 who by his understanding made the heavens,
 His LOVE endures forever.
 who spread out the earth upon the waters,
 His LOVE endures forever.
 who made the great lights—
 His LOVE endures forever.
 the sun to govern the day,
 His LOVE endures forever.
 the moon and stars to govern the night;
 His LOVE endures forever.



PSALM 136
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#463660 - 04/04/14 04:47 PM Ephesians 3 [Re: victor-victim]
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For this reason I kneel before the Father, from whom his whole family in heaven and on earth derives its name. I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in LOVE, may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the LOVE of Christ, and to know this LOVE that surpasses knowledge--that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.

EPHESIANS 3:14-19
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#467980 - 07/25/14 06:30 PM Re: LOVE in scripture [Re: victor-victim]
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some street preacher handed me this pamphlet the other day and i thought it was worth sharing.
i found several versions of it on the internet.
for your enjoyment, entertainment, and enlightenment...

A LOVE LETTER FROM FATHER


My Child,

You may not know me,
but I know everything about you.
Psalm 139:1

I know when you sit down and when you rise up.
Psalm 139:2

I am familiar with all your ways.
Psalm 139:3

Even the very hairs on your head are numbered.
Matthew 10:29-31

For you were made in my image.
Genesis 1:27

In me you live and move and have your being.
Acts 17:28

For you are my offspring.
Acts 17:28

I knew you even before you were conceived.
Jeremiah 1:4-5

I chose you when I planned creation.
Ephesians 1:11-12

You were not a mistake,
for all your days are written in my book.
Psalm 139:15-16

I determined the exact time of your birth
and where you would live.
Acts 17:26

You are fearfully and wonderfully made.
Psalm 139:14

I knit you together in your mother's womb.
Psalm 139:13

And brought you forth on the day you were born.
Psalm 71:6

I have been misrepresented
by those who don't know me.
John 8:41-44

I am not distant and angry,
but am the complete expression of love.
1 John 4:16

And it is my desire to lavish my love on you.
1 John 3:1

Simply because you are my child
and I am your Father.
1 John 3:1

I offer you more than your earthly father ever could.
Matthew 7:11

For I am the perfect father.
Matthew 5:48

Every good gift that you receive comes from my hand.
James 1:17

For I am your provider and I meet all your needs.
Matthew 6:31-33

My plan for your future has always been filled with hope.
Jeremiah 29:11

Because I love you with an everlasting love.
Jeremiah 31:3

My thoughts toward you are countless
as the sand on the seashore.
Psalms 139:17-18

And I rejoice over you with singing.
Zephaniah 3:17

I will never stop doing good to you.
Jeremiah 32:40

For you are my treasured possession.
Exodus 19:5

I desire to establish you
with all my heart and all my soul.
Jeremiah 32:41

And I want to show you great and marvelous things.
Jeremiah 33:3

If you seek me with all your heart,
you will find me.
Deuteronomy 4:29

Delight in me and I will give you
the desires of your heart.
Psalm 37:4

For it is I who gave you those desires.
Philippians 2:13

I am able to do more for you
than you could possibly imagine.
Ephesians 3:20

For I am your greatest encourager.
2 Thessalonians 2:16-17

I am also the Father who comforts you
in all your troubles.
2 Corinthians 1:3-4

When you are brokenhearted,
I am close to you.
Psalm 34:18

As a shepherd carries a lamb,
I have carried you close to my heart.
Isaiah 40:11

One day I will wipe away
every tear from your eyes.
Revelation 21:3-4

And I'll take away all the pain
you have suffered on this earth.
Revelation 21:3-4

I am your Father, and I love you
even as I love my son, Jesus.
John 17:23

For in Jesus, my love for you is revealed.
John 17:26

He is the exact representation of my being.
Hebrews 1:3

He came to demonstrate that I am for you,
not against you.
Romans 8:31

And to tell you that I am not counting your sins.
2 Corinthians 5:18-19

Jesus died so that you and I could be reconciled.
2 Corinthians 5:18-19

His death was the ultimate expression
of my love for you.
1 John 4:10

I gave up everything I loved
that I might gain your love.
Romans 8:31-32

If you receive the gift of my son Jesus,
you receive me.
1 John 2:23

And nothing will ever separate you
from my love again.
Romans 8:38-39

Come home and I'll throw the biggest party
heaven has ever seen.
Luke 15:7

I have always been Father,
and will always be Father.
Ephesians 3:14-15

My question is…
Will you be my child?
John 1:12-13

I am waiting for you.
Luke 15:11-32

Love, Your Dad,
Almighty God

http://www.fathersloveletter.com/text.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJvqmhGs1Y8
http://www.godvine.com/A-Father-s-Love-Letter-To-You-So-Moving-619.html

message is also available in multiple languages.
http://www.fathersloveletter.com/languages.html

the long version with all the scripture included
Originally Posted By: the BIBLE
My Child….

You may not know me, but I know everything about you
Psalm 139:1
O YaHWaH, thou hast searched me, and known me.

I know when you sit down and when you rise up
Psalm 139:2
Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off.

I am familiar with all your ways
Psalm 139:3
Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways.

Even the very hairs of your head are numbered
Matthew 10:29-31
Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the
ground without your Father. But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.

For you are made in my image
Genesis 1:27
So Elohim created man in his own image, in the image of Elohim created he him;
male and female created he them.

In me you live and move and have your being
Acts 17:28
For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

For you are my offspring
Acts 17:28
For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

I knew you even before you were conceived
Jeremiah 1:4,5
Then the word of YaHWaH came unto me, saying, Before I formed thee in the belly
I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

I chose you when I planned creation
Ephesians 1:11,12
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according
to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Messiah.

You were not a mistake for all your days are written in my book
Psalm 139:15,16
My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously
wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and
in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

I determined the exact time of your birth and where you would live
Acts 17:26
And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth,
and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation

You are fearfully and wonderfully made
Psalm 139:14
I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy
works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

I knit you together in your mother’s womb
Psalm 139:13
For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.

And brought you forth on the day you were born
Psalm 71:6
By thee have I been holden up from the womb: thou art he that took me out of my
mother's bowels: my praise shall be continually of thee.

I have been misrepresented by those who don’t know me
John 8:41-44
Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication;
we have one Father, even YaHWaH. Yahshua said unto them, If YaHWaH were your Father, ye
would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from YaHWaH; neither came I of myself, but he
sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of
your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the
beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he
speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

I am not distant and angry, but am the complete expression of Love
1 John 4:16
And we have known and believed the love that Elohim hath to us. Elohim is love; and
he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in Elohim, and Elohim in him

And it is my will and desire to lavish my love on you
1 John 3:1
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be
called the sons of Elohim: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

Simply because you are my child and I am your Father
1 John 3:1
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be
called the sons of Elohim: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

I offer you more than your earthly father ever could
Matthew 7:11
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much
more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

For I am the perfect Father
Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Every good gift that you receive comes from my hand
James 1:17
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father
of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

For I am your provider and I meet all your needs
Matthew 6:31-33
Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink?
or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all
these things. But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things
shall be added unto you.

My plan for your future has always been filled with hope
Jeremiah 29:11
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the YaHWaH, thoughts of
peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.

And I rejoice over you with singing
Zephaniah 3:17
YaHWaH thy Elohim in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice
over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing.

I will never stop doing good to you
Jeremiah 32:40
And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from
them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.

For you are my treasured possession
Exodus 19:5
Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall
be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:

I desire to establish you with all my heart and all my soul
Jeremiah 32:41
Yea, I will rejoice over them to do them good, and I will plant them in this land
assuredly with my whole heart and with my whole soul.

And I want to show you great and marvelous things
Jeremiah 33:3
Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which
thou knowest not.

If you seek me with all your heart you will find me
Deuteronomy 4:29
And there ye shall seek the Lord your God, and ye shall find Him whenever ye
shall seek Him with all your heart, and with all your soul in your affliction.

Delight in me and I will give you the desires of your heart
Psalm 37:4
Delight thyself also in YaHWaH; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.

For it is I who gave you those desires
Philippians 2:13
For it is Elohim who worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

I am able to do more for you than you could possibly imagine
[b]Ephesians 3:20
Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or
think, according to the power that worketh in us


For I am your greatest encourager
2 Thessalonians 2:16,17
Now our Yahshua Messiah himself, and Elohim, even our Father, which
hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, Comfort
your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

I am also the Father who comforts you in all your troubles
2 Corinthians 1:3,4
Blessed be Elohim, even the Father of our Master Yahshua Messiah, the
Father of mercies, and Elohim of all comfort; Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we
may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are
comforted of Elohim.

When you are brokenhearted, I am close to you
Psalm 34:18
YaHWaH is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a
contrite spirit.

As a shepherd carries a lamb, I have carried you close to my heart
Isaiah 40:11
He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and
carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.

One day I will wipe away every tear from your eyes
Revelation 21:3,4
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of
Elohim is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and Elohim himself
shall be with them, and be their Elohim. And Elohim shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more
pain: for the former things are passed away.

And I’ll take away all the pain you have suffered in this earth
Revelation 21:3,4
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of
Elohim is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and Elohim himself
shall be with them, and be their Elohim. And Elohim shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more
pain: for the former things are passed away.

I am your Father, and I love you even as I love my son Jesus
John 17:23
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world
may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

For in Jesus, my love for you is revealed
John 17:26
And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith
thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

He is the exact representation of my being
Hebrews 1:3
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and
upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down
on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

He came to demonstrate that I am for you, not against you
Romans 8:31
What shall we then say to these things? If Elohim be for us who can be against us?

And to tell you that I am not counting your sins
2 Corinthians 5:18,19
And all things are of Elohim, who hath reconciled us to himself by Yahshua
Messiah, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that Elohim was in Messiah,
reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed
unto us the word of reconciliation.

Jesus died so that you and I could be reconciled
2 Corinthians 5:18,19
And all things are of Elohim, who hath reconciled us to himself by Yahshua
Messiah, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that Elohim was in Messiah,
reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed
unto us the word of reconciliation.

His death was the ultimate expression of my love for you
1 John 4:10
Herein is love, not that we loved Elohim, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be
the propitiation for our sins.

I gave up everything I loved that I might gain your love
Romans 8:31,32
What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also
freely give us all things?

When you receive the gift of my son Jesus, you receive me
1 John 2:23
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth
the Son hath the Father also.

And nothing will ever separate you from my love again
Romans 8:38
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor
powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature,
shall be able to separate us from the love of Elohim, which is in Messiah Yahshua our Master.

Come home and I’ll throw you the biggest party heaven has ever seen
Luke 15:7
I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more
than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

I have always been Father and will always be Father
Ephesians 3:14
For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Master Yahshua Messiah, Of
whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

My question is… Will you be my child?
When these words of Mine touch your heart, then you realize that it is Me
who is comforting you, then you know that I am growing You… to become
My Son!
John 1:12,13
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of Elohim,
even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man, but of Elohim.

I am waiting for you
Luke 15:11-32
11. .And he said, A certain man had two sons:
12. And the younger
of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me.
And he divided unto them his living.
13. And not many days after the younger son
gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted
his substance with riotous living.
14. And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.
15. And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.
16. And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.
17. And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired
servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!
18. I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned
against heaven, and before thee,
19. And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.
20. And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and
ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.
21. And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called
thy son.
22. But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it
on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet
23. And bring hither
the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry:
24. For this my son was
dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry. 25. Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing.
26. And he called one of the servants, and asked what these things meant.
27. And he said unto him, Thy brother is come; and thy father
hath killed the fatted calf, because he hath received him safe and sound. 28. And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him.
29. And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee,
neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment and yet thou never gavest
me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends:
30. But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf
31. And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I
have is thine.
32. It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy
brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.

…love, your Dad

p.s. The parable in Luke 15, is really YOUR path, YOUR life.
You do not choose Me, nor is it your will to follow Me. Therefore I am not
waiting for you. I am your Father and that is why you ARE My child. In
your ‘humanity’ you ‘think’ that you are independent, that you have a free
will, but it is Me who wills for you and always has done. You do not know
that, because I veil Myself and your flesh cannot see Me, your mind cannot
understand Me. I talk to you and your flesh thinks that I am outside of you
while I am really YOU. This is, and always has been, the purpose of our
plan to make first You and then the rest of creation subject to MY Glory…

(ABBA) Almighty God YaHWaH (“My breath is your breath”)
http://www.returning-home.net/FathersLoveLetterCompleted.pdf

also available here: http://www.returning-home.net/FathersLoveLetterCompleted.pdf

hope you like it smile
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