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#431953 - 04/21/13 02:25 PM Do you agree?
Still Offline
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Julian Lennon posted this on Facebook.

Do you think its true...or was/is it true for you?

My reply: Hell yes it made me what and who I am! But it is not the ONLY influence on my life. HOW I survived....sucked. THAT I survived...OK-ish.



Edited by Still (04/21/13 02:26 PM)
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#431954 - 04/21/13 02:41 PM Re: Do you agree? [Re: Still]
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Edited by lbcali1978 (04/29/13 12:43 AM)
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They said

Come home

I said

I'm confused and alone

They said

We understand

I found out they don't

I'll walk the path exactly how I've always done it

Alone

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#431955 - 04/21/13 02:44 PM Re: Do you agree? [Re: Still]
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Registered: 03/28/13
Posts: 34
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I agree. I am not proud of what I had to do, but I am alive and will stay that way. I hope

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#431957 - 04/21/13 03:05 PM Re: Do you agree? [Re: Still]
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Registered: 08/09/12
Posts: 1510
Loc: New England
The things that allowed me to survive as a kid (alcohol, drugs, compulsive sex) became my prison as an adult. I no longer am defined by them. They are no longer who I am.

Jude
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I went back to the doctor
To get another shrink.
I sit and tell him about my weekend,
But he never betrays what he thinks.
Can you see the real me, doctor?.
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#431967 - 04/21/13 05:02 PM Re: Do you agree? [Re: Jude]
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Originally Posted By: Jude
The things that allowed me to survive as a kid (alcohol, drugs, compulsive sex) became my prison as an adult. I no longer am defined by them. They are no longer who I am.

Jude


like smile
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#431975 - 04/21/13 06:00 PM Re: Do you agree? [Re: Still]
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Registered: 02/03/13
Posts: 192
Maybe I'm reading it the wrong way?? But I hope it's not true. How I survived was by being completely submissive, doing things I didn't want to, saying things I didn't mean, pretending I wasn't there. I don't want any of those things to have anything to do with who I am. Even right now, I wouldn't want any of the stupid and weird stuff I have to do to survive to define who I really am.

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#431978 - 04/21/13 06:09 PM Re: Do you agree? [Re: Still]
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Hey Still,

If that's true then I'm a dead man. I survived like Jude but only with drugs, lots of drugs. I am today having to survive the same way. So according to Julian I'm a druggy and I will eventually die from it like friends and others of my generation. I don't think I can survive another round of that. And now I use a knife to help me go further into that twilight zone.

I'm glad in a way that I survived the first round, I'm not so sure about the second round.

Peace, Rainbows, Love & Healing
Jeff
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Stick around, It will get better....

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#432030 - 04/22/13 01:39 AM Re: Do you agree? [Re: Still]
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I imagine the artist's intent is to commemorate the strength, courage, and other positive qualities people use to overcome adversity. That it comes from a man whose father emotionally neglected him while physically abusing his mother may add to its efficacy. However, I am not a big fan of this quote. I feel survivors entering into recovery are a lot like soldiers returning from war. We both found ourselves trapped in a dangerous situation and did things we weren't particularly proud of in order to get through it. However, U.S. soldiers volunteer at the age of 18+ whereas CSA victims begins surviving much earlier and without their consent. Going to war and being sexually abused are not the same thing but I like to use this comparison to highlight the similarities/differences we've found in how people react to both. So as others have already said I think our survival journey definitely influences "who we are," but it does not define us. I am no more the bad person I thought I was because of the abuse than a returning soldier is a bad person he/she thinks he/she is because they survived/performed their duty.
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#432031 - 04/22/13 01:48 AM Re: Do you agree? [Re: Jude]
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Registered: 10/04/12
Posts: 309
Originally Posted By: Jude
The things that allowed me to survive as a kid (alcohol, drugs, compulsive sex) became my prison as an adult. I no longer am defined by them. They are no longer who I am.

Jude

Ditto.

I was addicted to hard drugs at 14, and in my darkest years I became the stereo-typical homeless junkie. It was the only way I knew how to survive. But it was only surviving, it wasn't living. It was more like a slow death. I don't think I would have survived for my longer, had I not walked away from that life.

Today, I don't even refer to myself as a "recovering addict" any more. I refuse to let my past addiction define any part of my present life.
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I guess what I'm trying to say
Is whose life is it anyway because livin'
Living is the best revenge
You can play
-- Def Leppard

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My blog

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#432032 - 04/22/13 01:49 AM " [Re: Publius]
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Registered: 02/16/12
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Edited by lbcali1978 (04/29/13 12:43 AM)
_________________________
They said

Come home

I said

I'm confused and alone

They said

We understand

I found out they don't

I'll walk the path exactly how I've always done it

Alone

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