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#427876 - 03/12/13 09:13 PM .
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#427877 - 03/12/13 10:09 PM Re: Any positive experiences with hypnotherapy? [Re: Life's A Dream]
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If you remember anything sex-abuse related via hypnosis, it will not be admissible in court (which might be why your suspected perp wants you to do it?)

LAD, as you know, I struggle with this same terrible demon. The PhD that is advising me on my upcoming EMDR says the naltrexone reverses dissociative amnesia and recovers memories... but I have not gone on the naltrexone yet, so not sure about that one yet.

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#427879 - 03/12/13 10:19 PM . [Re: cant_remember]
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#427880 - 03/12/13 10:26 PM Re: Any positive experiences with hypnotherapy? [Re: Life's A Dream]
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Yes

There are apparently different types of hypnotherapy.

My T used what he calls "deep relaxation". Just as the name suggests, it is a systematic relaxation of body muscles. The will is not given over and the client can pull out of it at any time. But the deep relaxation allows memories to surface. It was under this technique that I remembered the events of Pufferfish story part 1, at ages 3 and 4.

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#427885 - 03/12/13 11:22 PM . [Re: pufferfish]
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#427887 - 03/12/13 11:44 PM Re: Any positive experiences with hypnotherapy? [Re: Life's A Dream]
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The naltrexone theory is that dissociation is caused by endogenic opioids like endorphins. Recreating the abuse is recreating the brain chemistry.

Naltrexone stops the brain from reacting to these endogenic opioids the same way it blocks exogenic opioids like heroin from chemically bonding with the brain -- apparently.

It's an interesting theory that makes sense to me. It explains cutting and other self-harm as a way to jack up our endogenic opioid production. We're addicted to the brain chemistry caused by the abuse and seek out bad situations to get our bodies to react the same way.

Anyway... yes, naltrexone is what I'm about to try. As soon as my T sends a note to my primary care doc saying that she is going to oversee my usage.

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#427888 - 03/13/13 12:10 AM . [Re: Life's A Dream]
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#427895 - 03/13/13 03:10 AM Re: Any positive experiences with hypnotherapy? [Re: cant_remember]
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Originally Posted By: cant_remember
The naltrexone theory is that dissociation is caused by endogenic opioids like endorphins. Recreating the abuse is recreating the brain chemistry.

Naltrexone stops the brain from reacting to these endogenic opioids the same way it blocks exogenic opioids like heroin from chemically bonding with the brain -- apparently.

It's an interesting theory that makes sense to me. It explains cutting and other self-harm as a way to jack up our endogenic opioid production. We're addicted to the brain chemistry caused by the abuse and seek out bad situations to get our bodies to react the same way.

Wow. As a former heroin addict and a cutter... that makes a lot of sense. Amazing.

I'm curious though - they I have it is that Naltrexone also blocks your body's natural endorphins, leaving your body aching all-over... but that is at the kind of doses they give to reverse an OD, so possibly a therapeutic dose would be smaller and not have this side-effect... Dunno. Just something that occurred to me.
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#428045 - 03/14/13 03:56 PM . [Re: Life's A Dream]
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#428074 - 03/14/13 08:59 PM Re: Any positive experiences with hypnotherapy? [Re: Life's A Dream]
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It's worth trying.

My EMDR T is 70 a session. It's a stretch for me, but it's essential.

If your dad wants to help you, let him.

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#428077 - 03/14/13 09:51 PM . [Re: cant_remember]
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#428079 - 03/14/13 09:55 PM Re: Any positive experiences with hypnotherapy? [Re: Life's A Dream]
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Some good therapy can restart our lives. It's worth it.

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#428082 - 03/14/13 10:01 PM Re: Any positive experiences with hypnotherapy? [Re: pufferfish]
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It requires a lot of trust in the T, but in the book, The Fractured Mind, by Oxnam, deep hypnotherapy solved many of his problems. Of course they seemed to get worse at first, but then they got much, much better.

http://www.amazon.com/FRACTURED-MIND-MULTIPLE-PERSONALITY-DISORDER/dp/B000Y8SE4W/

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#428098 - 03/15/13 12:11 AM . [Re: pufferfish]
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#428138 - 03/15/13 10:07 AM Re: Any positive experiences with hypnotherapy? [Re: Life's A Dream]
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LAD, I agree. Puffer is a big brother to all of us. Did you know it was his birthday this week?

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#428192 - 03/15/13 10:10 PM . [Re: Life's A Dream]
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#428262 - 03/16/13 09:00 PM Re: Any positive experiences with hypnotherapy? [Re: cant_remember]
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Originally Posted By: cant_remember
The naltrexone theory is that dissociation is caused by endogenic opioids like endorphins. Recreating the abuse is recreating the brain chemistry.

Naltrexone stops the brain from reacting to these endogenic opioids the same way it blocks exogenic opioids like heroin from chemically bonding with the brain -- apparently.

It's an interesting theory that makes sense to me. It explains cutting and other self-harm as a way to jack up our endogenic opioid production. We're addicted to the brain chemistry caused by the abuse and seek out bad situations to get our bodies to react the same way.

Anyway... yes, naltrexone is what I'm about to try. As soon as my T sends a note to my primary care doc saying that she is going to oversee my usage.

Cant


Can someone please explain that to me again in really really stupid persons english? I have a major self harm problem right now. I'd like to quit but nothing I have tried so far has helped.

Life's A Dream, my dad had hypnotherapy for some of his OCD stuff. Not anything to do with recovering memories. But it really did work for him. Hope you have some luck with it.

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#428277 - 03/17/13 12:24 AM Re: Any positive experiences with hypnotherapy? [Re: txb]
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Here is some information on naltrexone:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a685041.html

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