Oxycodone.
I recently took some and DAYUM. All of a sudden I did not have depression. It felt like I was radiating with love. If I felt that way all the time, then I would be cured. And please save your Nancy Reagan 'Just Say No' talking points. I have complete control and discipline over what drugs I take.

I'm not one to judge for using substances, as I've had a long history of using them myself.

Out of curiosity, I wanted to see what this Oxycodone is. Oxycontin?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxycodone

Withdrawal effects similar to heroin withdrawal. It's an opiate. Certainly not something you'd want to take all the time, or you'd get addicted. Side effects don't look pleasant either.

I wish there was a magic pill for recovering from the psychological mess we've inherited because of our experiences. There isn't. Many of us have found some things along the way that help, like meditation, religion, sports, medication, and self medicating.

But ultimately, a real recovery comes when we realize that we are free to choose how to respond to life, rather than to react to it.

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LOL!
Is it any worse than smoking or drinking?

I suppose it depends on how you want to treat yourself.

Smoking is obviously unhealthy, and drinking too much is also obviously unhealthy. To do these behaviors that inflict physical harm on your body constitutes as self abuse (which we're all prone to doing).

D

I'm not certain but I think my sister is taking that. She told me that it would be for life. But she says it is worth it.

Edit:

Sorry wrong stuff.

I know one guy whose doctor suggested to him to take up smoking. Saying that the beneficial effects would probably allow him to live long enough to worry about the negative ones.

Candu,

Oxycodone is prescribed for chronic pain. What is your sister taking it for?

I have yet to meat an addict who didn't say that at some stage. And I've met a lot. Including a lot of down-and-out homeless and junkies. I was one. And I truly believed I chose to take those drugs.

That said, you are perfectly right. Narcotics are very effective at suppressing PTSD, including depression, flashbacks, etc. But at what cost?

jason, I'm not going to tell you what to do. But do yourself a favour and google Oxycodone tolerance. And Oxycodone withdrawal. Know that even if somehow you manage to escape full-fledged addiction, you WILL develop physical dependence on it within a few days of taking it regularly. That isn't something you can avoid or control - even pain patients who use it exactly as prescribed get that. It is the nature of the drug. Please make sure you know what you are doing, because I don't think what you are doing is wise. Oxycodone isn't called "hill-billy heroin" for nothing...

(And I think you know that, or you wouldn't have posted this...)

penalties are very stiff even just for possessing but a single pill without a prescription. suggest u get a prescription if u r gonna take these

penalties are very stiff even just for possessing but a single pill without a prescription. suggest u get a prescription if u r gonna take these

sorry for the double... now triple.. post

I'm throwing my two cents in even if I'm echoing what others have said.

Two years ago I had some extensive cartilage repair in my left knee. I spent a night in the hospital with patient-controlled anesthesia which injected iv morphine when I pressed a button...it locks you out for a period of time do you don't over do it.

When I left the hospital, I was loaded up on morphine and given a script for oxycodone (Percocet). I don't really have an addictive personality...still your body WILL become accustomed to the stuff. I only took it for 10 days, but felt awful when I stopped talking it.

It's called withdrawal.

Taking it, My knee felt better and I floated on Cloud 9, but there's no way that felt like a solution for anything other than knee pain. It causes your testosterone to plunge--taking your libido with it. It also will make you thankful for bran flakes and prunes---just saying.

Now I know why the Dr. only wrote a script for a limited number of pills.

Tread carefully.

Will

I live in a place that has been turned upside down by Oxy. Whole communities left addicted to it: 2 or 3 generations of the same family crushing Oxy tabs to snort. Very not good.

Oxy isn't a "cure" for anything except for life. Please back away. This isn't Nancy Reagan Just-Say-No-ism. Oxy is bad news.

Cant

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LAD,

You got me curious about Kratom, so I started looking around and found this message board with people begging for help getting "off the leaf." Apparently, stopping using Kratom can be a bitch:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/435879-Kratom-Withdrawal

Cant

I have to say i have felt the same way taking that i can identify with the feeling of love and feeling one everything . BUT after taking it for a little while I needed nore to feel the same feeling . Than it turned into being very moody . I hate to be the buzz kill for you but you are not going to find your answer in a pill . After the moodyness wore off there i was left with anger because the pill had me feeling very " off" so to speak it took awhile for me to get back to normal , it messes with your mental chemestry .

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Shit, I was going to post something about klonopin, well anyways yeah I'm prescribed that, and thanks for scaring my already overactive imagination, I've read nightmares about this stuff, but it's the only drug that's helped me with my anxiety...

What's funny is, I'm prescribed so god damn many of these pills I have two completely full bottles of them (360 pills!). AND A CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL psych prescribed them to me! (She was a regular psych but got switch the children's so now I'm seeing her until I can find a new one)

I hope I don't get addicted, as I've picked up smoking again... and taking a bit more than I'm supposed to of klonopin is tempting.

Just a question, have you experianced the withdrawal from klonopin or have you not stopped taking it before?

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I took Oxycodone after having surgery to repair broken bones in my face. It was nice but I wound up giving the rest of it away before the bottle was finished. The reason, I liked it way to much! I don't need any more addictions and my extremely addictive personality was taking to that shit like a fish to water.

Believe me when I say that I'm the last person you're going to get any "Nancy Reagan crap" from. I like to get good and effed up as much as anyone out there. I drink every day, drink A LOT on the weekend, smoke pot occasionally and have a very Libertarian attitude about drugs in general. It just seems to me that if you're going to be addicted to something to self-medicate, it's probably better that it's something you can work into your life and still be able to function. For example, I drink every day but I don't do it until I get home from work and know I don't have to drive anywhere else. Also, on work nights, I only let myself drink an amount that I know will not keep me from being able to get up and go when I need to the next day. Having taken Oxy myself, I can't imagine how anyone could take that shit all day, every day and still function. Maybe they could, but I don't see it.

Another thing I feel like I need to bring up is your calling Oxy a "cure" for your mental problems. It's not a "cure". At best it's a "treatment" and probably not a very productive one, I would think. Even things like Prozac that are prescribed by doctors aren't a cure. A cure means something is totally gone for good and requires no further treatment or medical intervention of any kind. A treatment just temporarily relieves a symptom or keeps a disease in check. Maybe I'm being to semantic with that but I just felt I needed to point it out.

On a side note, for some reason your "Nancy Reagan" comment made me think back to the 6th grade when we had this big anti-drug presentation at our school. It was 1986. First they made us watch a video in which a bunch of teenagers did a song and dance number called "Say Nope To Dope." It was the most retarded thing I've ever seen in my life. Then they made all the kids in the school sign a big banner that was sent to the White House and by signing that banner we were making a pledge to Nancy Reagan that we would never do drugs.

Sorry Nancy.

Ken

jasondoe101,

Dude, you must be pulling our chain or trying to commit suicide on the installment plan.



I have spent the last five years and thousands of dollars trying to help my nephew get clean from an opiate addiction. He has lost his wife, kids, house, job, truck, friends, family, self-respect, the respect of others, and everything else except the clothes on his back because there was nothing more important than trying to recapture that initial feeling of false joy and happiness. It started as a 30 day prescription (Oxycontin) for a back injury. He too is a survivor and has been dealing with the anger associated with that and other issues since he was a young boy. Praise the Lord he has been in a 6 month rehab program (voluntary, he checked himself in) and has been clean and sober since October 5, 2012. He is once again the young man I have known and loved all my life. On a side note, I am in Georgia, USA and the program is called Bridges of Hope. If anyone has a need they can Google it. The program and my nephew's determination to stay clean this time has probably saved his life.

I said all that to say this--yes you have complete control and discipline over what drugs you take. Once, twice, three times, who knows? But I can give you a 100% money-back guarantee that the drugs will win in the end. Think of it as a casino in Las Vegas. The odds are in the casino's favor. In the long run they never, ever, ever lose.

I wish you well jasondoe. I have read your other posts and am familiar with your suicide attempts. We here on MS have all been where you are now. But if you think that Oxycodone is the answer you are unfortunately, very sadly and badly mistaken. You have just entered Dante's first level of Hell.

The choice is yours.

Dude.

Thanks for the advice! Hopefully I won't be someone who has long lasting withdrawals or something. But for now anyways, yeah I'm gonna keep taking it.

Klonopin = Benzo.
If you've been taking it for a while, it's pretty much guaranteed that you have already developed physical dependence on it. But IMO that isn't the same thing as addiction. To be addicted you also have to be psychologically dependent. But that is debatable.

Benzo withdrawal is pure hell, besides being one of the few withdrawals that can actually kill you. I've experience full-on Benzo withdrawal once. It's definitely worse than heroin. Let's just say I don't remember much between when the convulsions started and waking up in hospital several days later. And I don't want to remember the hours before the convulsions started. Thank God someone found me and got me medical help, or I wouldn't be here. And then there's that sneaking little think called PAWS. I won't bore you with a list of symptoms, lets just say it took months before I felt human again.

So here's my advice - DON'T stop taking it - let your doctor help you taper.

DON'T drink while on it. At all. Alcohol and Benzos are a terrible combination. And don't even consider mixing it with narcotics.

Don't even THINK about taking more than you doctor prescribed. What you have there is some seriously hard-core shit. Don't mess with it. Frankly, I'm surprised it's so common and so easily prescribed!

Meh, not much difference between Oxy and heroin, in my experience, except heroin has a more intense high (unless <OK. Sensor. It just occurred to me that someone might actually read what I wrote here and try it>) and less reliable purity. Risks, detox and addition potential is pretty much the same...

Hence "Hillbilly Heroin".

It is true everything everyone else has said thus far is true about addiction, withdrawal, and the consequences of both. However, what you say is true as well. My own experience was with alcohol. Just as with many of us here it provided me with some semblance of normality, confidence, and connection. Although this did not last it was something else now wasn't it?

I am curious what else you have tried to combat your depression in the past? There are alternatives (therapy, exercise, meditation, healthy hobbies, etc.) to pharmaceuticals available, which can temporarily relieve depression. A couple distinctions are the lack of withdrawal symptoms and the compounding effect over time that healthy habits generate. Most importantly, while gaining some reprieve you also enable yourself to pursue a recovery whose long term and lasting benefits cannot be understated.

Of course, you have heard this all before so let me just ask what led you to this decision or if it was even a decision at all? If you are sharing your first experience with Oxy or venting frustration glad to hear it and as you can see from comments we are all right there with you as far as wanting that magic pill.

I thought klonopin only doubled the effect of alcohol, I didn't know it was dangerous, why exactly is it a dangerous combination if you know how you hold your alcohol and measure in that you've taken a klonopin and proceed with caution? Is there something else I wasn't told? (To note, I really rarely drink alcohol anyways, but because I can really hold my liquor I sometimes take a klonopin to save money trying to get the effects I want from the alcohol.)

Also, taking more than prescribed, well I said it's tempting, and yeah it is, but it's kind of a blurry line for me. I take .5mg in the morning and 1.0mg before bed, but I'm allow to take up to 3 during the day, I don't know if I can take them all at once or what. If I'm feeling like I really need it, I'll just take all 3 (1.5mg) in the middle of the day so it doesn't overlap with my morning or nightly doses, or I'll take it if I have a social event that will cause me great anxiety. but usually I take 1-2 at a time when needed.

Really I should probably be talking to my psych about it, but if you guys have some experience with benzos, that is definitely worth hearing as well.

And yes, I would never go off my meds without tapering off, I tried that once with seroquel and that got me puking and all sorts of shit, that was bad enough, and hell I wasn't even warned! So I learned from experience on that one, I also learned I gotta be REAAAL protective of my self when if comes to psychs, I gotta ask as many questions as I can, cause they don't always tell you what you need to know about the drugs unless you ask. Yeah I also understand the difference between physical dependance and addiction, lucky me lol. Funny, this information isn't exactly given to you all the time, I had to find this stuff out myself a lot of the times.



Heroin ruined my family, it ruined my brother, and it ruined his brain. Now he's a shadow of who he was and he'll never be the same. If you though dying from an overdose was bad, try living while being dead, and having a brother who's alive but dead at the same time. To be more specific, I actually think it's a bad batch of crystal meth that ruined his brain, but still heroin ruined my family and my brother's life even before that.

Sorry so many of you can't handle the good shit. I can. I am not addicted to anything. I take oxy on the weekends. I have no issues with withdrawal. If anything, it has helped me immensely. It had given me ideas that have helped me progress in life. The difference between you and me is that I respect and appreciate drugs.

Ok dude. If you really think you can pull it off, I'm not going to tell you you're wrong. It's just that when you called it a "cure for your mental issues", I figured you meant you were going to be taking it night and day, all day, every day. Otherwise, it wouldn't be much of a "cure" and still isn't.

Do your mental issues only affect you on the weekend? I'm not picking on you when I ask that, I'm just trying to explain where I was coming from in my initial reply to you. Like I said the first time, and perhaps I'm again being to semantic, but a cure is a cure, a treatment is a treatment and an escape is an escape. What you're describing is an escape, not a cure and not even a treatment. I'm not being judgmental or a Nancy Reagan when I say any of that because I'm not above using substances to escape from personal demons or to take the edge off of anxiety myself. In fact, in the right situation and if I were in the right frame of mind, I would probably even pop an Oxy again myself if somebody offered me one. However, no matter how good it made me feel, no matter how good booze can make me feel, no matter how good a little weed can make me feel, it isn't a "cure" for anything. That's all I'm trying to say. Peace.

Ken

jasondoe,
Let me say what it seems no one else wants to.
Yep, you're right. We're all a bunch of ignorant old bastards who don't know shit compared to you. We have a respect and appreciation for drugs also. It's because we have so many friends and family who are either incarcerated, institutionalized or dead because of their addiction that started out as recreational pharmaceutical use. I'd love to know how you developed your "respect and appreciation" for drugs.
If that is your attitude and belief, you are ignorant, arrogant, and you are dead already. You may as well pull the trigger and spare your family the years of heartache and pain.

Hope you like the sex because you are totally fucked.

With deepest sympathy,

Dude.

Just a brief note.

Sometimes I watch Dr. Oz. Today he talked about these opiate drugs and how easy it was to get trapped in an addiction. Watch out please.

Puffer

Well, congratulations. Obviously the rest of the world and all of us are too weak.

Just a request, dude - since it's now been established that you are the only person in the world who can handle it without consequences, please don't advocate it as a "cure". It is an escape at best, and only a very temporary one at that...

Basically, you are VERY likely to black out on the combination and if you're anything like me, then being that out of control is a BAD idea. Plus, the balance is so delicate... just misjudging how much you ate that day, how strong the booze you are drinking is, how tired you are, etc, can have a huge impact. And yeah - I've seen a guy OD on that combo. Not a pretty sight, and there is no magic shot that can bring you back like Narcan for a narcotic OD.


Just know that Benzos are EXTREMELY addictive. Both physically and yes - psychologically. I don't have to tell you how easily that sweet, relaxed feeling can seduce you into taking more and more - I think you get that. If the doc says you're allowed to take that extra 3mg, then it should be ok, but I also think you're smart not to take it unless absolutely necessary.

I'm not sure how much my experience is worth for you... basically I was prescribed Xanax in my early twenties, but I wasn't smart enough to use it as prescribed so I started upping my dose and buying more on the street when I ran out. Basically got myself a pretty bad Benzo addiction. Mixed it with heroin too. Not quite sure how I survived that... but yeah, it fucked me up pretty bad. To be honest - I am very careful about narcotics, but Benzo's I'm downright scared of.


It was probably the Meth that fried his brain. Heroin doesn't do that. It fucks you up in just about every other conceivable way, but it doesn't fry your brain. But yeah - I was hooked on heroin for almost 9 years. In those nine years, I dragged the few people who cared about me through hell with me. Not good. All I'm saying is Oxy isn't much better, unless you take it exactly as prescribed and make sure that you treat it with about as much respect as you would treat a loaded gun... (I used to substitute with Oxy or Vicodin if I couldn't get my hands on H) I have very little experience with coke and none with meth, so I can't really comment on those...

In that case I am genuinely curious to hear about those ideas that have helped you progress in life. Perhaps we can benefit from your experiences?

Hmmmm...just finished a full work week, hit the gym five times this week, lost two pounds since last week, finished up my grad school application, and got in some extra studying time for a job exam that I am having this week. Oh yeah- I am HIGH as a kite on oxy right now. How come my life isn't in tatters?

Really dude? You really just bumped this thread so that you could brag about being high on Oxy? Why? What is your point? I'm sorry but it sounds to me like you're just trolling at this point. I mean, I was totally wasted last night but I wasn't on here announcing it or bragging about it because, you know, I'm not 16. Sorry. Just sayin'.

I believe you answered your own question.