Newest Members
BusterJones, Desperateforhelp, aniceguy, Green_Lantern, Safe11ride
12121 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
betterdays (29), ChevyMan76 (46), cuda (48), swartzhund (42), wdf9 (70)
Who's Online
5 registered (irishguym, lapchinj, 3 invisible), 67 Guests and 2 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
12121 Members
73 Forums
62520 Topics
438129 Posts

Max Online: 418 @ 07/02/12 07:29 AM
Twitter
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#424362 - 02/05/13 08:37 AM freed 5-yr-old: prospects for healing?
traveler Offline
Greeter
MaleSurvivor

Registered: 02/07/06
Posts: 3203
Loc: back in the USA
_________________________
We are often troubled, but not crushed;
sometimes in doubt, but never in despair;
there are many enemies, but we are never without a friend;
and though badly hurt at times, we are not destroyed.
- Paul, II Cor 4:8-9

Top
#424366 - 02/05/13 09:07 AM Re: freed 5-yr-old: prospects for healing? [Re: traveler]
peroperic2009 Offline
Moderator
MaleSurvivor

Registered: 10/09/11
Posts: 3566
Loc: South-East Europe
Thank God that this boy is free again.
I hope he will not have some traumas left because of this terrible incident frown
_________________________
My story

Top
#424370 - 02/05/13 10:03 AM Re: freed 5-yr-old: prospects for healing? [Re: traveler]
cant_remember Offline
Member
MaleSurvivor

Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 997
Keep an eye out for a family name of him, or a church or school he belongs to, and we'll find a mailing address for us to send cards to him and his family.

That's one small thing we can do pro-actively to help with his recovery.

Cant
_________________________
Recovery is possible. Hang in there, brothers.

Top
#424429 - 02/05/13 06:59 PM Re: freed 5-yr-old: prospects for healing? [Re: traveler]
traveler Offline
Greeter
MaleSurvivor

Registered: 02/07/06
Posts: 3203
Loc: back in the USA
if you can get cards to the police station of the town, they will make sure he gets them. they said they were planning on giving him tons of cards that have come in at a birthday party in a football stadium.

BTW - this is the 1st crisis or tragedy of any kind that i have never seen a single photo of the victim or a family member on TV or print news. they must be very fragile and private. the mother was said to be "hanging by a thread." the whole family is going to need therapy. they will need a lot of support.
_________________________
We are often troubled, but not crushed;
sometimes in doubt, but never in despair;
there are many enemies, but we are never without a friend;
and though badly hurt at times, we are not destroyed.
- Paul, II Cor 4:8-9

Top
#424622 - 02/07/13 01:36 PM Re: freed 5-yr-old: prospects for healing? [Re: traveler]
cant_remember Offline
Member
MaleSurvivor

Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 997
Here's the thing:

It's certainly been traumatic for the boy and his family, and you're right that they're going to need a lot of therapy and support. But the thing is: they'll get it.

That town will rally around that family and that boy will be treated like a hero his whole life -- because his trauma isn't taboo. There's no supposed shame connected to it, no reason for his parents to deny that it happened.

His healing journey will start well before ours ever did. Hate to rain on the parade, but that's what I feel in these sorts of situations. Wish I had that. Didn't.

Cant
_________________________
Recovery is possible. Hang in there, brothers.

Top
#424728 - 02/08/13 06:17 PM Re: freed 5-yr-old: prospects for healing? [Re: traveler]
SoccerStar Offline
Member
MaleSurvivor

Registered: 10/15/12
Posts: 915
Loc: New York
We don't know what his trauma was, Cant. The guy had a lot of time alone with him. There also was no toilet in the bunker and nothing to allow for privacy for those functions.
_________________________
My story

"Don't think it hasn't been a little slice of heaven just because it hasn't!" --Bugs Bunny

Top
#424734 - 02/08/13 07:43 PM Re: freed 5-yr-old: prospects for healing? [Re: traveler]
cant_remember Offline
Member
MaleSurvivor

Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 997
Thanks, Matt.

You're right, of course.

Cant
_________________________
Recovery is possible. Hang in there, brothers.

Top
#424738 - 02/08/13 08:19 PM Re: freed 5-yr-old: prospects for healing? [Re: SoccerStar]
traveler Offline
Greeter
MaleSurvivor

Registered: 02/07/06
Posts: 3203
Loc: back in the USA
Originally Posted By: SoccerStar
We don't know what his trauma was, Cant. The guy had a lot of time alone with him. There also was no toilet in the bunker and nothing to allow for privacy for those functions.


yeah...
i was afraid to suggest that. i was stupified that none of the news media that i saw even hinted at that concern - maybe because he could see it all on TV? they just followed the party line that "he's taking good care of the boy." like a kind uncle or something - we all know what that can mean... i was/am so afraid for the boy. to make it worse, he and i share the same birthday - and this was happening at that time. i know what it's like to have bad stuff come back on every birthday for all your life.

lee
_________________________
We are often troubled, but not crushed;
sometimes in doubt, but never in despair;
there are many enemies, but we are never without a friend;
and though badly hurt at times, we are not destroyed.
- Paul, II Cor 4:8-9

Top
#424744 - 02/08/13 10:17 PM Re: freed 5-yr-old: prospects for healing? [Re: traveler]
pufferfish Offline
Member
MaleSurvivor

Registered: 02/26/08
Posts: 6709
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: traveler
Originally Posted By: SoccerStar
We don't know what his trauma was, Cant. The guy had a lot of time alone with him. There also was no toilet in the bunker and nothing to allow for privacy for those functions.


yeah...
i was afraid to suggest that. i was stupified that none of the news media that i saw even hinted at that concern - maybe because he could see it all on TV? they just followed the party line that "he's taking good care of the boy." like a kind uncle or something - we all know what that can mean... i was/am so afraid for the boy. to make it worse, he and i share the same birthday - and this was happening at that time. i know what it's like to have bad stuff come back on every birthday for all your life.

lee


Nor did the law enforcement heed his best interests. They were careless. All the sirens blaring and cracking of equipment and shutting of car doors could probably be heard within the bunker. That made things worse rather than better. The man had severe mental health issues and needed to be treated with caution. The boy needs the best counseling that money can buy and it should be paid for out of the public coffer.

Puffer


Top
#425643 - 02/18/13 12:29 AM Re: freed 5-yr-old: prospects for healing? [Re: traveler]
catfish86 Offline
Member
MaleSurvivor

Registered: 10/27/09
Posts: 817
Loc: Ohio
A lot of this resonates with some of what I went through. The Fox Dr that wrote that article is spot on with much of what he is saying. The most important thing is that he be given support, love and acceptance. As to the trauma of the rescue, the police did what they needed to. As to the guy needing help, he certainly did right up to the point that he killed the bus driver and took a child. After that, he needed elimination for the good of the human race.
_________________________
God grant me
The Serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The Courage to change the things I can,
And the Wisdom to know the difference.

Top
#425701 - 02/18/13 01:40 PM Re: freed 5-yr-old: prospects for healing? [Re: traveler]
SoccerStar Offline
Member
MaleSurvivor

Registered: 10/15/12
Posts: 915
Loc: New York
There have been a few news stories showing this boy, Ethan, meeting the governor and playing in his office, smiling and laughing, and also being evaluated by "Dr. Phil."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/alabama-hostage-rescue-year-ethan-speaks-dr-phil/story?id=18475987

Despite the cute clips, his mother asserts that he screams in his sleep and can't stand the sight of a school bus.

Who knows? I'm not a therapist but I'd tend to think that a kid that young and "surface level" couldn't possibly fake his way into acting so normal and carefree so soon after an incident of painful and traumatically invasive physical abuse... though I guess there are guys here who could testify firsthand. And, shit, my parents swore up and down they never saw a hint of a change in me at 8, probably because I'd blocked it out near-instantly and had nothing to "hide." Hrrmmmphhhh.

Since we'll all but certainly never be told the full details, it's best just to assume there was nothing further. Having seen the kid now, it hurts to speculate on something worse.


Matt


Edited by SoccerStar (02/18/13 02:00 PM)
_________________________
My story

"Don't think it hasn't been a little slice of heaven just because it hasn't!" --Bugs Bunny

Top
#425773 - 02/18/13 11:40 PM Re: freed 5-yr-old: prospects for healing? [Re: SoccerStar]
pufferfish Offline
Member
MaleSurvivor

Registered: 02/26/08
Posts: 6709
Loc: USA
I think this is evidence of a heavy PTSD. It can remain hidden in children:

Quote:

Despite the cute clips, his mother asserts that he screams in his sleep and can't stand the sight of a school bus.


It will come out much later if it isn't taken care of at this early stage. A good therapist could defuse his inner terror.

Puffer


Top
#425846 - 02/19/13 02:46 PM Re: freed 5-yr-old: prospects for healing? [Re: pufferfish]
Still Offline
Member
MaleSurvivor

Registered: 02/16/07
Posts: 6317
Loc: 2 NATO Nations
Originally Posted By: pufferfish
I think this is evidence of a heavy PTSD. It can remain hidden in children:

Quote:

Despite the cute clips, his mother asserts that he screams in his sleep and can't stand the sight of a school bus.


It will come out much later if it isn't taken care of at this early stage. A good therapist could defuse his inner terror.

Puffer



To Be Honest TBA: He's toast.
_________________________
Jesus Loves The Hell Outta Me!

Still's Globs

New Video

Top
#443337 - 08/05/13 06:28 AM Re: freed 5-yr-old: prospects for healing? [Re: traveler]
victor-victim Offline


Registered: 09/27/03
Posts: 2972
Loc: O Kanada
there is no doubt that he has been deeply impacted.

i will pray for his recovery.
and hope that he gets what he deserves...
all the love, guidance, support and protection he needs from good people right here on earth.
_________________________
Victor|Victim

War
Love
Poetry

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >


Moderator:  Chase Eric, ModTeam 

I agree that my access and use of the MaleSurvivor discussion forums and chat room is subject to the terms of this Agreement. AND the sole discretion of MaleSurvivor.
I agree that my use of MaleSurvivor resources are AT-WILL, and that my posting privileges may be terminated at any time, and for any reason by MaleSurvivor.