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Over 2000 years how many copies of the New Testament do you think have been produced and distributed? Ever hear of the game telephone? Things are bound to be misinterpreted and miscommunicated. If I really wanted to I could argue in Christian terms that homosexuality is not a sin, and I'm sure there are Christian branches or churches or denominations that will say homosexuality isn't a sin. So it's all a word game and people will manipulate their scriptures to fit the meaning they want, so really it isn't religions fault for causing hate or spreading lies its people. Something I've finally come to realize, so with this knowledge I am now relieved because I know things will change. 100 years from now homophobia will be frowned upon just as much as racism or any prejudice before it. So it's no longer an arguement of religion for me, so I'm done discussing homosexuality and religion. That was only one of two questions I posed.

Blasphemy WARNING!!!






Seriously; Blasphemy WARNING!!!







Really, Seriously, Blasphemy WARNING!!!






I could be wrong but you’re actually asking this from 2 points of view, faith or religion.

Religion is the easy one, it’s something created by man to help explain everything he can’t; and that’s most of everything right. So the follow up is if it’s created by man then its neither right nor wrong, it’s just man’s ideas about everything. There is a lot of good in religion, it brings people together, its helps codify right and wrong, but on the bad side its used as a societal control, its used to start wars and other atrocities, it’s the sum of everything evil and bad about us and at the same time everything good that we strive to be. Christianity always seemed really wacked from a theological perspective, I know Jesus was a Jew but continually harassed the rich and powerful of his people, to look beyond themselves to see their evil, I could only figure that Christians took the book of the Jews and added it as dogma because you can’t have the people running around “peace/love” all the time, someone has got to go kill the heathens? It was all about control, and if you read just the words of Jesus, he knew control is just an illusion. The word Christian means today those that follow Christ, not Jesus, Jesus was a man like you or me, Christ was the son of God, Jesus never said he was God, Jesus was comparing the common man to the gods of the day, all leaders were gods right, look at them wrong, say the wrong thing and your dead right, the power of life and death in the last century BC made you god, all Jesus was referring to was the revolutionary idea that we are all God, we are all equal, we are all the same. Some made him into a religion, he did not, and it’s why the Gnostic Gospels and the Dead Sea Scrolls are problematic for Christians. Religion especially Christianity rails about any type of deviancy anything not prescribed in the “good book” ; I always interpreted it as utter non-sense how can someone be a Christian say its ok to kill other Christians (war)? So if they the “believers” can condone killing other like “believers” then neither can be right so when they preach this or say that, if it’s not killing is wrong period or love everyone or turn the other cheek, then they are neither a Christian or a follower of Jesus, so let them say whatever they want their homophobia is their issue not yours; at least not directly. Jesus never preached hate, not in the Bible or in the Gnostic Gospels. He preached love and we are all God.

Faith is something entirely different; faith is personal, a man of religion will flee when there is trouble a man of faith just digs his heals in and waits. Faith is why I know that god is in us, we are god, everything we see or touch or here or think about is god; god is as much us as is the sand or a tree or the moon. God cannot answer our prayers not because he can’t hear us because he can but because our voice is microscopic in terms of the universe. The universe cannot hate, is it hate when you hunt or fish to eat, is it hate when you have to do what you do to survive. Survival is an act of god an act of love an act that reaffirms your humanity, your self-worth, your part no matter how small of being god. I could give you personal example after example of faith; cats have 9 lives, I’ve lost count, something has kept me around for a reason, that reason still remains an utter mystery to me, but I’m still alive. It’s kinda weird the last time my mother saw me she thought she saw scars on my wrists? I know I’ve been really eff’d up more then she’ll ever know, but if I was ever going to do it, god would make sure I was successful, I’ve never failed at something my heart was into, what a bitch. See the faith in knowing that you need to be here, that you have to be here is what empowers you to help, to be yourself, I have seen it, I’m part of it, as are you, you need to be here, you are god, as we all are. Its why I’ve started to call them el diablos, what other term fits the creatures that can destroy lives before they even begin, they can’t be human can they, I know they are part of god, but in no way can they be people, people who feel, people who know pain, who know suffering, but more importantly you know they cannot love, cause if you love there is no way el diablos could do what they do, to deny love is to deny your humanity, and to deny your humanity is to deny god and your connection to the rest of the universe, how else can you rationalize their actions?

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Okay, well according to the Old Testament, if Jesus was not in fact the messiah, and instead was a false prophet, then you will go to hell for worshipping a false idol. So how do you know which is right? This is what causes wars. Physical wars, with killing and death. Just think about that. There is absolutely no way to know if Jesus was the Son of God. The devil is tricky, what if the devil sent Jesus? There's no solidity to your beliefs, there is no absolute truth. It's based on a whim.

Like I said I'm done discussing those two questions, they're too easy to crumble, morph, and change. I realize you nor anyone else has any Real answers. I don't mean to offend, but that just seems to be the case.

Really I don't even think this is offending in nature, maybe threatening, but your religion (and many others) threatens everyone in the world so I can't really be doing much different by saying any of this.

did you know there were three distinct words for homosexual back in the days of Christ and the Koine Greek.

funny thing is - Paul didn't use ANY of them. He coined his own words, or spoke of the boy prostitutes in the temples and the men that "paid homage" in those temples.

From my underestanding (granted - my understanding) and my faith - no Perfect God is going to write a book about how to live a life for Him ... and never mentioned the word that has everyone up in arms. Of course - they used the bible against blacks, for slavery, you name it - the Word of God has been used wrongly for it.

and as for what is "real" - I can only go by what I have experienced. and most of it has only strengthened my faith - up and including my heart attack.

Nobody wants to offend anyone. We only want our opinion to be the last one stated. And loudest if we can.

I will just use the words of my Lord to build a new phrase for the internet generation.

He said "He who has ears to hear, let him hear"
My take on that - "He who has eyes to see, let him see"

I wish there could be peace - but if I believe as I do about the end times - then there will be wars, rumors of wars, earthquakes, men staring at the heavens fearing the stars falling to earth (read in 2013 as "meteors"). Time grows short, and I do fear for those who I believe are "lost". I just praise the Almighty that I'm not the one who will be making that final decision. I care for you all so much... my body can't express it .. and my spirit knows no words that will convey it. But you are all loved - SO MUCH.

We are fellow wounded. Yet we will be the death of us all.

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