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#422430 - 01/17/13 06:50 PM Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation
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From the (UK) Independent:

Scotland Yard tonight launched a full investigation into allegations that Conservative politicians were members of a paedophile ring which abused children in care the 1980s.

Operation Fernbridge will centre on the alleged historic sexual abuse of children at Elm Guest House, in Rocks Lane, a suburban street in Barnes, south-west London.

Residents of a nearby care home run by Richmond Council claim they were sexually assaulted at the property by a network of prominent individuals, including Tory MPs, who used their connections to escape justice.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cri...ng-8456434.html
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#422457 - 01/17/13 09:30 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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Another reference:

UK Police Open Historic Child Abuse Probe

http://news.yahoo.com/uk-police-open-historic-child-abuse-probe-224610787.html

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#422498 - 01/18/13 09:20 AM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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Pure speculation here, but a thought:

First, with the Jimmy Savile investigation, it was Operation Yewtree, then it expanded to include others as Operation Fairbank. Now, without any arrests for Fairbank, the police have launched Operation Fernbridge.

Now, the naming of these operations are likely random or associated with some mnemonic device that we'll never know... but it's telling that Fairbank and Fernbridge are compound words starting with F-B.

I have seen some internet/twitter chatter that would suggest that perhaps the police found so much evidence during their Fairbank investigation that they had to widen the scope of the investigation considerably, thus the need for the new operation name and the mirroring of the F-B from the previous operation.

Just a thought. But this could be very encouraging.
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#422591 - 01/18/13 11:06 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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maybe the acronym stands for

"F-CKING B-STARDS" !!!!!
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#422652 - 01/19/13 05:47 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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Breaking news, gentlemen:

Shit is starting to go down, apparently. From the (UK) Mirror:

Child abuse cops seize VIP list: Politicians, MI5 agent, Royal aide and pop stars all named

Among the names are two former Conservative Cabinet ministers and four other senior Tories. There is also a Labour MP, a prominent Irish republican and a leading National Front member.

Others on the handwritten note are two members of the royal household – one a former Buckingham Palace employee – plus the owner of a multinational company and two pop stars.

[...]

The first people to be arrested are not expected to be famous.

But sources close to the investigation are increasingly confident some big names will be caught in the police net.

Renowned figures linked to the scandal so far include the former Liberal MP Cyril Smith and the one-time Keeper of the Queen’s Pictures Anthony Blunt, who was disgraced as a traitor and spy.

[...]

The MP said: “I believe a great injustice was done in the 1980s. To stop something like this happening again I am asking victims to summon the courage to come forward now.

“Whatever has happened in the past your voices will be heard now.

“You can contact the police. Or if you feel more comfortable you can contact me directly,” [said MP Tom Watson].

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-seize-vip-list-in-dawn-1546351

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#423213 - 01/25/13 03:06 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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Not sure why being a conservative politician has anything to do with it, as if no liberals ever engaged in illegal behavior. The current push in the UK and Canada to recognize pedophilia as "just another form of sexuality" isn't coming from the right either. That is coming from academics in the UK. If academics there are like those here in the US, the vast majority of them are liberals.
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#423214 - 01/25/13 03:13 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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No major arrests yet, but there's this independent investigative journalism outfit in London called Exaro News.

Exaro filed freedom of information act requests with all 43 police forces in England and Wales, and found 30 "major" investigations into "child sex abuse by groups," which is pedo rings.

The story is behind a paywall, which one could access by signing up for a 7-day trial, but I haven't done that yet for some reason. If someone does get the full story from Exaro, fill us in.

Just to recap, that's 30 "major" investigations, not counting Scotland.

Link:
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/4808/police-operations-into-child-sex-abuse-by-groups-exaro-s-list

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#423225 - 01/25/13 05:52 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: BuffaloCO]
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Hey Buff, those ideas about "just another form of sexuality" are coming from pedophile rings be sure in that, that has nothing to do with any political option and I seriously doubt in academic background...

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#423227 - 01/25/13 07:27 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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I thought the article quoted academics supporting that idea. Im just saying people are pointing out "conservative" politicians, as if being conservative or liberal makes one a pedo.
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#423232 - 01/25/13 09:49 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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Buff,

I hear you. Part of the confusion has to do with UK politics and that "liberal" and "conservative" mean slightly different things there as they do in the US.

2ndly, while liberals are certainly capable of being pedos and involved in pedo rings, there's a certain sort of pedo that is also militant and hypocritical on an extraordinary level -- so outwardly and publicly "conservative" while secretly decadent and predatory.

Does that help?

Cant
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#423274 - 01/26/13 12:26 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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If you have been abused in the UK by a pedo ring, here's a number to call where someone might actually give a damn:

From Twitter:

"The met police telephone number for operation #FERNBRIDGE is 02071610500 If this effects you or someone you know pls ring the number.."

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#423311 - 01/26/13 07:00 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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Originally Posted By: cant_remember
If you have been abused in the UK by a pedo ring, here's a number to call where someone might actually give a damn:

From Twitter:

"The met police telephone number for operation #FERNBRIDGE is 02071610500 If this effects you or someone you know pls ring the number.."

Cant


This is so, so good. Now I wish that this kind of effort could be made on this side of the pond. I guess it's not available because the corruption has reached very high levels. I base this on information in the book by Nick Bryant:

http://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Scandal-Story-Powerbrokers-Betrayal/dp/1936296071/

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#423325 - 01/26/13 11:17 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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I'm looking for viable US options. I hear the IRS is interesting in prosecuting CP producers because of the tax-evasion angle. That could be promising, but don't have contact info yet.

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#423394 - 01/27/13 07:00 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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Kind of understand can't_remember. There are good people on both sides of the political isle, and bad. The idea that conservative pedo's are somehow worse is just sad to me, as all abuse has the same effect on a kid. In the US, the ACLU defends Nambla and is a very liberal organization (ACLU that is). There is nothing about nambla worth defending when their printed materials describe how to seduce boys. I understand the right of free speech, but that is in line with child porn I think.
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#423401 - 01/27/13 09:17 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: BuffaloCO]
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As far as reaching this side of the pond is concerned, is there any likelyhood that some of the same dudes were involved on both sides of the pond?

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#423412 - 01/27/13 10:45 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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Puffer,

Obviously, it must be true, and these global elite types travel quite a bit and know where the hunting grounds are.

But nothing of that sort has popped up in the UK alternative media that I've seen so far. No reports of possible Americans to be named. Yet.

Cant
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#423512 - 01/28/13 10:30 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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Former MP Cyril Smith raped boys under 16 and broke a toilet seat with his fat ass, according to the Independent:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/cyril-smith-named-in-barnes-abuse-case-8468370.html
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#424501 - 02/06/13 09:27 AM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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Two new arrests today in "Operation Fernbridge," related to accusations that a guest house in south London was turned into a pedo brothel using boys from a nearby care home under the control of the Richmond city council.

Apparently, the two arrested are not celebrities or "household names," but could be key witnesses against said VIPs, so it appears the UK police are making a move on this.

Fingers crossed. Link:

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/4833/operation-fernbridge-makes-first-arrest-in-paedophile-probe
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#424502 - 02/06/13 09:33 AM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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I'm keeping my fingers crossed to have some of big fishes finally caught...
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#424507 - 02/06/13 10:22 AM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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The comments string on this blog post related to the arrests seems very positive.

http://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2013/02/06/op-fernbridge-first-arrest/#comments
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#424623 - 02/07/13 01:56 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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The two men arrested have been identified, one is a former manager of the orphanage the boys came from, and the other is a Catholic priest, to the surprise of no one:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21349730
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#439928 - 07/03/13 04:17 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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"2ndly, while liberals are certainly capable of being pedos and involved in pedo rings, there's a certain sort of pedo that is also militant and hypocritical on an extraordinary level -- so outwardly and publicly "conservative" while secretly decadent and predatory.

Does that help?

Cant"

No, actually it doesn't actually explain can't_remember. Other's can be outwardly caring and concerned as liberals and just as militant, hypocritical, decadent and predatory behind the scenes too.

People's true level of compassion and concern for children has nothing to do with their politics whatsoever. There are good and bad people on both sides of that political coin.


Edited by BuffaloCO (07/03/13 04:24 PM)
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#441907 - 07/23/13 05:26 PM Re: Scotland Yard Launches Pedo Ring Investigation [Re: cant_remember]
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