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#419648 - 12/20/12 12:28 PM Pope calls CP "normal"
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OK,

I hesitated to post this because at first I thought it was an Onion headline, but our friend Pope B16 is at it again with his perp apologetics.

These are apparently real (non-joke) quotes from the Pope himself:

“In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,” the Pope said.

“It was maintained — even within the realm of Catholic theology — that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a ‘better than' and a ‘worse than'. Nothing is good or bad in itself.”

“We cannot remain silent about the context of these times in which these events have come to light,” he said, citing the growth of child pornography “that seems in some way to be considered more and more normal by society” he said.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/w...s-15035449.html

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#419665 - 12/20/12 05:10 PM Re: Pope calls CP "normal" [Re: cant_remember]
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“In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,”

citing the growth of child pornography “that seems in some way to be considered more and more normal by society”

If you’re a man of religion and not faith please don’t read.

Starting my rant:






What kind of sick twisted monster do you have to be to even think about let alone say publicly this kind of abhorrent tripe? How out of touch do you have to be to think that any adult sexual activity with anyone underage is anything but a devil? I know these demons have no idea what it’s like to be victimized to have every part of them destroyed but it’s also apparent that the pragmatism of their religion and maintaining the status quo is more important than either helping the untold number of victims at the hand of priests or just plain lacking in human empathy; must not be human. How can you say something like this? Really, how can the quote “god on earth”’ say CP is normal now and that pedophilia was ok in the 70’s? Its why religion is the devil; blind obedience; never question authority; must be nice to live in that comfortable world where you don’t know what’s it like to be sodomized for years, where the pope is still a good person, where church is a safe place for your children. Disclosure the only conversation me and my dad ever had about my abuse went something like its “gods will”; I must have said something bad about god then cause I got the beating of my life. It’s funny cause I denied my abuse but it surfaced in weird ways, when I was 6 I told my dad while in church that I hope they all burn down! How can you tell a 4 year old it’s god’s will that you suck dick? Blind ignorance it the biggest problem we have on this planet; imho.

I Love God!!!

Cee
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#419675 - 12/20/12 06:24 PM Re: Pope calls CP "normal" [Re: cant_remember]
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It's not ignorance; it's defiance of basic humanism. The Holy Father knows exactly what he's saying.

Get angrier.

Cant
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#419693 - 12/20/12 08:02 PM Re: Pope calls CP "normal" [Re: cant_remember]
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“Blind ignorance it the biggest problem we have on this planet; imho.”

Sorry if I was confusing, meant to reference the people that follow blindly not for “god on earth”; you know like I knew a guy who was catholic, I mean catholic, had been married for like 8 years and had 7 children, nothing wrong with that but he and his family were really bad off, I can’t imagine trying to feed 7 children on the money he was making; E-5 USN. He loved his wife; but birth control stupid; “not gods plan”.

No words can adequately describe what lacking of basic morality that someone like that has to have. The thing is that his words sound like those of an abuser right? CP is normal now, pedophilia was ok in the 70’s or am I missing something here? He really sounds as if he believes the shit he says, pedo? “god on earth” a pedo? It’s like listening to the monster enabled by the pedo by proxy @Penn state, it just sounds like he felt 0 remorse, like if he had to do it all over again he would? I’ll ask again; “god on earth” a pedo? He just doesn’t sound like just an enabler; does he?

Cee


btw I don’t get angry anymore, not like I used to, I’m finally over that, thank God, like a lot of us here I used it to cover a myriad of other emotions; it does really get better!
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#419700 - 12/20/12 08:45 PM Re: Pope calls CP "normal" [Re: cant_remember]
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Saying such disturbing things about pedophilia actually opened my eyes from which circles this person is coming. I would also add that lamenting on such delicate issue as child abuse in such insensitive way can only do emotionally very cold person - that is trait shown by sociopaths and abusers.
There are worlds where cultural values haven't been changed at all related to love, families and kids in last century, but yeah those are warm, emphatic and touching cultures, the ones that are not heard in mass media and that would never consider child pornography as normal.
But church already lost compass in that field on countless examples and far earlier than 1970s, so I would add that we shouldn't lose much energy on such lamenting, it is not worth nor can bring anything valuable. We have to protect ourselves from toxicity no matter from where is coming.
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#419709 - 12/20/12 10:22 PM Re: Pope calls CP "normal" [Re: cant_remember]
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I just see this as someone in power who can influence the ignorant of this world into thinking its ok to be a pedo; how many more children need to suffer? People will rationalize anything, someone on the edge, someone who might never have done anything might read this and think “even god thinks its ok”; that’s why something like this is so heinous. I’ve seen this type of thing in the past politically, “tough love” “kinder & gentler” whatever it’s a form of propaganda, it ruins people’s lives, in this case it promotes the worst kind of behavior of people. We need to be outraged, sorry; this is just abominable propaganda of the worst kind!

Cee
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#419735 - 12/21/12 08:04 AM Re: Pope calls CP "normal" [Re: cant_remember]
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The good news is that we are not alone. The computer hacker collective, Anonymous, has started Operation Vatican.

Visit this link and click the video:

http://www.operationvatican.tk

Cant
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#419736 - 12/21/12 08:08 AM Re: Pope calls CP "normal" [Re: cant_remember]
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Thanks Cant,
as Catholic I'm sending my blessing for this Anonymous's initiative.

Pero
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#419764 - 12/21/12 02:25 PM Re: Pope calls CP "normal" [Re: cant_remember]
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Come to think of it, the Pope probably knows a lot about child abusers... but what does he know about "normal"?

John

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#419852 - 12/22/12 02:16 PM Re: Pope calls CP "normal" [Re: cant_remember]
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Pero understand that my grandmother and her sister used to take me and my cousins to mass everyday before she went to work, luckily i was able to leave the church as soon as confirmation. So like i said blind ignorance is the issue not faith in God,how else can we overcome what life has thrown us?

Cee
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