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#407967 - 08/26/12 08:03 AM What Sex Offenders Say
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I've been working daily for the past year trying to get my town and others to adopt Child Safety Zones. They are places where convicted and currently registered Sex Offenders (SOs) cannot tread (public parks, swimming pools, playgrounds, skate-parks, any child-intense event, etc).

For nearly two decades I was aware of two SOs who lived very close to my house (now my ex-wife's and children's house). When I asked "WTF is with that," I always got an answer that was supposed to cool my jets. I also hear that the answer i got is common in many SOs' community relations and acceptance efforts.

Namely: "Oh, yeah....He had a girlfriend back when he was a teen, and you know those laws and age technicalities...what a hassle! Poor guy has to carry the scarlet letters with him for the rest of his life."

Now, what I say is quite true in my world. It may be different for yours', but I have heard it many times. Its reached a "formulaic" status in community explanation, and people seem oh-so willing to accept that and move-on.

That heinous end-run around justice puts children and adults in danger. In one case in my town {link} , the danger turned into nightmarish tragedy for no other reason than town leaders coddling a favorite son and proliferating the soft-sell lie about the nature of the SO's offense.

The SO registration has to be taken at face value for what it is. Explaining-away and down-playing via supposed circumstances is fully immoral at best. Its certainly a dangerous mis-step utilized by those without the fortitude to punish the guilty and protect the vulnerable.

I'd be interested in hearing if anyone else has seen this play-out in your community.
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#407984 - 08/26/12 10:16 AM Re: What Sex Offenders Say [Re: Still]
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Rob,

While I understand where you're coming from on this, and I'm certainly not out to defend SO's, there is a competing concern that is worth taking into account.

In Florida, as you are likely aware, there are laws on the books keeping SO's from living within a certain distance from schools and playgrounds, but that distance is so wide that there are now communities of homeless SO's living under bridges and viaducts, because that's the only "housing" they can find.

Now, I'm not asking for sympathy for these jokers; they've done it to themselves. But I doubt that was the intended outcome of the laws that were passed to protect children, and destabilizing the SO community by forcing them into homeless gangs hardly seems like an ideal solution.

I'm just offering that as a counterpoint to your concern to help you formulate what you think would be a good government solution to the problem.

Additional advice would be that if you're having trouble getting the city government to act (as it appears), go ahead and work with your state government representatives to get something done at the state level.

Jim
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#407986 - 08/26/12 10:42 AM Re: What Sex Offenders Say [Re: Still]
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I just thought about it like this. We tend to look and the abused. If 1 in 6 men have been abused then how many abusers are out there. I was abused by 2 men. If every abuser had one or two abusers then that is alot of sick men out there now I know that not all abused men were abused by other men but I bet the number would still be shocking.
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#407993 - 08/26/12 12:34 PM Re: What Sex Offenders Say [Re: Still]
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Jim,

That that you describe for FL is a travesty of justice. We are a nation of law & order based upon laws. The only life-sentence ought to be served by those who receive "life sentences." Making someones life impossible to live (literally impossible) as you describe is wrong, and I would never be in support of it.

As much as I am surprised I'm saying this, I would support their efforts to change things.

That all does not happen here in NH as far as I know. The laws on the books are strict, but not extensive in reach and scope.

My opening post was more about ongoing deception between the SO and the community. I cannot support the lies. I likewise do not support a super-judicial life-sentence.

So now comes the bill...heading to our table. So if we HAVE to live with the FL conditions as they are today, does the nameless, un-terrorized kid take and pay it with possible risk? Does the adult SO pay with continued horrid-life?

Well, the 8-yo girl has no criminal history, nor does she have aggressive and deceptive, secreted sexual behavior with younger ones.

She does rely upon the big people to provide her with security and fundamental safety.

She deserves a society that tries to keep her safe.

She has 75 years ahead of her, and we would prefer she remain healthy in body and mind.

SO has shown deceptive and aggressive behaviour.

SO has secret and ilegal activities of a sexual nature with children or adults.

He has in fact paid according to the judiciary, but continues to pay as a result of societal factors.

Society shuns perceived dangers and hazards (sometimes).

Its a toughy!! Its all sad. It all sucks. I have to default to the child no matter what. In the interim, the SOs need to stop white-washing when they re-enter society, and the SO Legal Reformers need to stop using their deceptive and insulting arguments (insulting to the children and adult victims).

EDIT: And the lies do in fact carry great damage and risk. Here in Chester, we had a board of "reasonable adults" who likely believed the lies. One board member is FBI, and still will not address the failure to protect. In many cases, the lies give reason to disregard the SO's past and treat him well...let's pretend none of it happened. I think that is exactly what happened here. But we (society) failed at least one girl who was raped during his period of deception. That one girl came forward after the arrest as I predicted one would. We failed the kids in the thousands of porn images he had. We failed all the town's children with foolish behaviour. I cannot stand idle and wait for the next, and the next, and the next.

No...I prefer life under rt95 for them...cuz I can't live like this either.


One SO Legal Reform group here does not ever want to face me in real life. Their twists and lies are sick-sh&t.

This issue feels like it comes from College Ethics 301,m but this is truly emotionally distressing to me.


Edited by Robbie Brown (08/26/12 12:50 PM)
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