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#405010 - 07/27/12 02:05 PM Re: PLEASE -- Give up the Paterno Defense [Re: jls]
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#405047 - 07/27/12 10:22 PM Re: PLEASE -- Give up the Paterno Defense [Re: bodyguard8367]
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What I objected to in your post was your statement that Joe Paterno was somehow a victim of the same deceit and manipulation that Jerry Sandusky used overall and most specifically toward his child victims. I feel it is absurd to call a man of Paterno's stature, authority and position a victim of Sandusky, and even more so since Sandusky's position at PSU was that of Paterno's subordinate. I'm sorry that you were offended by my response to your post but I don't apologize for it. Last I looked this is an open forum and with that you can expect a response to what you post. On that note thank you for replying to my response since even though we don't agree I too must be accountable for what I write here, which in this case I stand by.
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#405117 - 07/28/12 12:32 PM Re: PLEASE -- Give up the Paterno Defense [Re: tshodson]
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#405124 - 07/28/12 01:25 PM Re: PLEASE -- Give up the Paterno Defense [Re: bodyguard8367]
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I appreciate you clarifying that, and your right that pedophiles do manipulate other adults in children's lives in order to abuse. However, even in this context I still take issue with applying the victim label to Paterno. For one, even if he was blind to what Sandusky was up to it was willfully so since there was an obvious motivation on Paterno's part to keep Sandusky's activities quiet, that being to protect PSU's football program above all else. Second, like I keep re-iterating, Paterno was a man with a lot of power, and as Sandsuky's superior over him in particular, so logic dictates that the victim label doesn't apply. Paterno may have been manipulated but certainly without putting up much resistance to it, and like I said he had his own motivations to not protest Sandusky's behaviour too loudly.
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#405127 - 07/28/12 01:45 PM Re: PLEASE -- Give up the Paterno Defense [Re: tshodson]
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#405169 - 07/29/12 12:31 AM Re: PLEASE -- Give up the Paterno Defense [Re: tshodson]
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I misunderstood when you said Paterno was a victim as I took it in the same sense that Sandusky's child victims were. I understand now that this isn't what you meant, and I appreciate it that you no longer describe Paterno as a victim in any other context. As far as burying the hatchet goes please know that it was not my intention to pick a fight with you or anyone else. I can be passionate when expressing my views and while being disagreed with is not always comfortable I respect the courage it shows to challenge someone's opinion so thank you for that.
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#405203 - 07/29/12 12:46 PM Re: PLEASE -- Give up the Paterno Defense [Re: tshodson]
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