I think the religious got it all wrong that is why they are called religious. They miss the point immensely . For it is not about imposing ones will upon one another truly it is about loving and treating one another with mutual respect . I view homosexuality as a thorn in my flesh . It keeps me humble it does not effect the fact that it infiltrates my mind my urges my appetites . NO different from anyone struggles with anything . We all struggle with something and it does not matter whether it is homosexuality, stealing,lying,cheating , you get the point .
Might i add that it is not the urge of same sex attraction that is the sin . It is the acting out the urges acting out the sexual lust no different than heterosexuals acting out the lust .Being attracted to someone anyone same sex or opposite that is not sin. added to my post
The fact is people have made a big stink over one thing in order to hide the fact they have their own THING to deal with .
I will try to explain my view even though i no i am opening a Pandora's box .
I believe that the way people take the bible and try to make fit into their lives to suite themselves. I truly believe there is in fact sin . I believe you should not force your beliefs on people because if I really believe the bible and free will you must extend that courtesy to everyone . If God gives a choice why can we not impose or enforce our beliefs on others .
I am simply stating my belief not imposing i respect your belief if you do not believe in God or Jesus that is not only your right but it is also a freedom we have . So please do not assume that i have all the answers . I just want to share my 2 cents
If God says homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of heaven nor the sexual immoral one must keep this in focus and inline with the rest of the word of God . Not just picking and choosing what they want to justify their own sin with .
Jesus said many things and i do not believe that there are contradictions . If one believes homosexuals are not going to make it into heaven simply because they are homosexual they are so far misguided in that belief . Because if they are not going to make it than none of are . Because one only have to recognize the sin in there life .
I think this is the whole key to Jesus and God and sin when you acknowledge sin in your life NO SPECIFIC SIN JUST THAT YOU INDEED SIN ask Jesus to cleanse this sin except him to inherit that sin than the sin is gone .
At that point it is between YOU AND GOD to work on the things he would have you work on . If you have excepted Christ into your life you are clean you are cleansed indeed.
It is a done deal whether gay,strait,bi,lair,thief, what ever it is that you are which plainly put is a sinner than you are now able to be welcomed into the kingdom because you are now looked at as clean by God .
The problem people make is trying to play God and pick and choose who is worthy and who is not . When you are born again you are new from that moment on , the holy spirit within you will determine what goes and what stays and i believe this is a private matter between you and God .
He decides what you work on not people . If you are working on things in your life and shedding other things besides the ones people think you should be ,than who the hell cares . He might decide that homosexuality is the thorn that keeps your focus on him while other things are being worked out . While you are working out your salvation just as planned .
I am using homosexuality because this was the topic and is so easy to illustrate just how far Christians have it wrong. Jesus excluded no one and the people that so called Christians condemned the most are the ones he loved the most the ones he ate with forgave and illustrated his love for all people not anyone perceived to be more of a sinner than another.
People can not go around thinking they have it all figured out as if they are God . Yes the bible is up for many different interpretations but when one realizes he does not have it all figured out and there is room for not understanding it all and also realizes there are things we will never understand we just have to trust that HE does and leave it at that. Instead of ad libbing or engaging in improvisation .
God uses people he uses sinners to do his work he came to save sinners no matter what the sin .And when people start making up their own minds who is worthy and who is not than you already no God has nothing to do with that . I hope some of this makes sense .
It is the work of the holy spirit that changes people and if it is not in Gods plan to take this sin or that sin away than that is Gods choice if the sinner has excepted that he or she has sin in their life and begins to allow the holy spirit to work in their life than what the holy spirit works on is between you and God not people.
If someone does not allow a homosexual in their church because of that reason than they should excuse themselves also because they should be welcomed just as Jesus would have welcomed them because they are no less sinners than the person judging them in fact the person realizing the need of forgiveness of sin probably is better of than the person judging the specific sin they think is more important than their own . Jesus would love them except them and if HE chooses to change their character than that is between God and the homosexual no different than changing the character of the whorlet or the thief.
We are all just human beings we are all people and no one is better than another i believe we all struggle with this thing called sin and Jesus allows me to come to him with this struggle and takes the burdens of my struggle . Nothing more or less I recognize my sin and the only thing that has worked with this struggle is Jesus now i will not say that you must do this or that i am just saying for me this works if at some point what you are doing is not working i would be happy to share what works for me.
Jesus loves all people he dislikes the sin we make it to complicated . If you believe you have sin and want help with it ask for his help . After that it is between you and him to work it all out . It is not homosexuality that needs to be removed from people it is only sin that needs to removed . If God made people than he made these so called homosexuals we are all just people not this or that we are all people in need of love and respect for one another to love one another just as we want to be loved .
This is not complicated how can hating someone have anything to do with loving ? As soon as people bring up their own beliefs about who is worthy and who is not than i no that some how they are missing the mark they are not getting the foundation of the Jesus which is love one another as yourself and except one another leave the rest up to God