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#400088 - 06/11/12 12:39 AM Family Reseach saying csa caused by homosexuals?
GeorgeMartin Offline


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REPORT SHOWS LINK BETWEEN HOMOSEXUALITY AND CHILD ABUSE

WASHINGTON, May 31, 2011 (LSN.ca) - A new report published by the Family Research Council (FRC) reveals that there is a body of evidence indicating a definite link between homosexuality and pedophilia. Statistics show that homosexual men, who represent less than 3 percent of the adult male population, commit a disproportionate number (one-third or more) or about 38% more of the cases of child sexual molestation.

And if that doesn't anger the readers, here's a URL link to read even more of this garbage junk findings that is created with 'confirmation bias' !!

Sexual abuse and homosexuality Timothy J. Dailey of the FRC

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#400094 - 06/11/12 02:58 AM Re: Family Reseach saying csa caused by homosexuals? [Re: GeorgeMartin]
Hereagain Offline
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Registered: 06/01/11
Posts: 36
This is disgusting, bigoted and counterproductive to not only our recoveries but also to ending child rape.

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#400101 - 06/11/12 05:57 AM Re: Family Reseach saying csa caused by homosexuals? [Re: GeorgeMartin]
GeorgeMartin Offline


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Loc: USA
"However, once it is "determined" beforehand that pedophiles who molest boys cannot be considered gay or homosexual if they have had sexual relations with women, it is a foregone conclusion that few if any of the pedophiles --who often have girlfriends, are married, and have children -- will be labeled homosexual. The Jenny study used this narrow profile despite the fact that the study itself found that 22 percent of the perpetrators were of the same sex as the victim. In these cases the molesters clearly engaged in homosexual sexual molestation." Footnote 23.

NOTICE, how the good Dr. Timothy J. Dailey or whomever of the article ASSUMES using "confirmation bias" that just because the perpetrator is violating and assaulting a male victim, that the perpetrators violation is thus labeled a "homosexual sexual molestation"?

They disregard that the perpetrator may in fact, be married, have girlfriend(s), and or have sexual relations with a female, THAT regardless of this dynamic ... simply because the perp was male, and the victim(s) were male (then it MUST BE according to their twisted assumption) HOMOSEXUALS are the cause of male sexual abuse. I guess they are taking lessons from the Vatican and the Pope; blaming homosexuals for the sexual abuse of male children. So they plan on rounding up and detaining all LGBT homosexual's and putting them in concentration camps, and then "POOF" sexual abuse etc of children will decrease? I think not. But then again, that is their plans and their delusion(s) as well.

And also notice that in this "report" they state that the majority of sexual abuse is perpetuated by males, and ... "Almost all sex crimes against children are committed by men."

This absolute garbage junk science and research findings.

"While many homosexuals may not seek young sexual partners, the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners. In this paper we will consider the following evidence linking homosexuality to pedophilia:"

Male Sexual Abuse = Homosexuals = Pedophilia.

Honestly, out of all the self-proclaimed homosexuals I have personally have known (and I do not mean in the 'biblical sense' either), I have ONLY known 1 person who self-proclaimed he was gay, who targeted a runaway adolescent male to stay with him, etc so he could get them into a sexual relationship with him. I found him on the Sexual Offender List and turned him; He had a prior record of second degree statutory rape and almost killed on of his previous victims (one was a girl and one was a boy). The cops found he'd been sleeping with a 15 year old male runaway (in the same bed) and arrested him (again). He went to prison for 12 months and got out.

He claimed to be homosexual because it was easier to identify with the gay community, but most LGBT people cannot stand NAMBLA or anything even remotely insinuating child sexual abuse attractions. Most homosexual men are not looking to be with someone but their own age! And NAMBLA must here were Timothy J. Dailey loves to get his information from. As well as the internet gay port sites!

This is simply a "witch Hunt" by the Religious Right and Conservatives with the Family Research Center, making pamphlets for Schools, Churches, and counters wherever they can place them, to do harm to the LGBT Communities throughout the USA. They want people (naive as some are) to assume that homosexuals are pedophiles, which the majority are not. It's not about sexual orientation at all.

And yes, I do think this is disgusting of Timothy J. Daily because it is bigoted and not true of sexual abuse dynamics nor is it true of the LGBT Communities throughout this country.

My abuser(s) were married, had children, went to Church every Sunday and sometimes 2-3 times a week and still the father-of-the -house we lived in, sexually abused 1 of his 'sons' (me) while apparently leaving his own natural children alone, including my sibling (who was also adopted). And the mother-of-the-house (his wife) was a mentally deranged, insecure, manipulative P.O.S. would do all sorts of sick abusive tactics against my twin and esp. to me, when we were children.

People like Timothy J. Dailey, Ph.D. ought to have their Ph.D's yanked out off their office walls because this is just plain garbage what they are spewing.

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#400105 - 06/11/12 08:27 AM Re: Family Reseach saying csa caused by homosexuals? [Re: GeorgeMartin]
Ken Singer, LCSW Offline
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Any "research" by the Family RESEARCH Council is way suspect and should be taken with a carload of salt. They are bigoted and homophobic while promoting their brand of "values".

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#400135 - 06/11/12 04:11 PM Re: Family Reseach saying csa caused by homosexuals? [Re: GeorgeMartin]
unhappycamper Offline


Registered: 10/21/11
Posts: 597
Loc: VA
The man who raped me was married, as I recall... but the "Family Research Council" didn't survey me.

John

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#400137 - 06/11/12 04:36 PM Re: Family Reseach saying csa caused by homosexuals? [Re: GeorgeMartin]
GeorgeMartin Offline


Registered: 12/29/07
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Loc: USA
I see this Timothy J. Dailey 'newly published report" as an affront and an insult to every homosexual human being that ever was, is or ever will be. It reminds me of Brown-shirt Nazified Germans profiling with wrong made-up "professional" data they themselves created, in which to harass, detain, escort to, and murder homosexuals in concentration camps throughout a huge geographical area in Europe, namely Berlin, Germany.

And this is where the start of Penn State's trial of Jerry Sandusky happens to enter into trial today....

Again, people just do not get any common sense or rational thinking on the matter of male sexual abuse (or sexual abuse in general for that matter). For example, "Mike McQueary assumed there was a sexual act. He didn't see a sexual act. He didn't see penetration. He assumed."

So, with this idiot defense, since there was no alleged "penetration" orally or anally, then there was no sexual abuse (?).

No penetration = no sexual abuse?

So, in light of all this, I don't see the Family Research Center claiming that this Jerry Sandusky is a homosexual because he obviously was inappropriate (at the very least!) with minor male children! Oh and this claim of his writing "love letters' to one of the victims, and having Histrionic Personality Disorder? Wonder when that diagnosis was made just before .... or after the charges were made? Still does not negate the behaviors of criminal conduct against a minor child! What the heck does this alleged diagnosis that have to do with the price of tea in China?

The "grooming" actions of this perp (or any other) are well established tactics by pedophiles. And no he was NOT A HOMOSEXUAL. He was married. But oops, that does not matter to the Family Research Center are trying to vilify homosexuals and insinuate that homosexuals are all a bunch of pedophiles, since their Ex-Gay Campaign in the 80's and 90's didn't quite go as they had planned and hoped.

All of this ignorance about homosexuals and pedophiles and sexual abuse by the public just makes me sick to my stomach!

The only good that comes of these types of media reports is that some in the public, mothers and fathers, grandparents, aunts and uncles, and teachers etc. hopefully will GAIN THE AWARENESS from sites like Male SurvivorORG, and elsewhere (appropriately) about the LGBT people (son's, daughter's, and grand-kids etc who happen to be LGBT in THEIR FAMILIES) and pull their ignorant or arrogant heads up for some fresh air!

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#400219 - 06/12/12 09:27 AM Re: Family Reseach saying csa caused by homosexuals? [Re: GeorgeMartin]
unhappycamper Offline


Registered: 10/21/11
Posts: 597
Loc: VA
Originally Posted By: GeorgeMartin
.... and having Histrionic Personality Disorder? Wonder when that diagnosis was made just before .... or after the charges were made?


Trying to launch an exotic, tailor-made "syndrome" defense--especially after the trial has started--is a sign that the defense is desperate. They need to discredit those "creepy love letters," but IMHO they're just calling more attention to them. Of course, the defense's job is nothing more than to confuse the jurors....

Hang in there, "alleged" victims 1 thru 10! Or is it 12?

John

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#400714 - 06/17/12 10:02 PM Re: Family Reseach saying csa caused by homosexuals? [Re: GeorgeMartin]
jls Offline


Registered: 03/06/09
Posts: 1142
What part of being gay i.e. adults being attracted to other adults of the same sex do some people not get? They also don't seem to understand the difference between a disorder and an orientation. Yes I'm sure there are gays and lesbians who sexually abuse children, probably about the same ratio of straight people who do, yet it is for that very reason that most offences are committed by str8s since there are far more straight people in this world than not. If the numbers were reversed I believe the statistics would reflect this. Certain people need to adopt some common sense.

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#401234 - 06/21/12 09:52 PM Re: Family Reseach saying csa caused by homosexuals? [Re: GeorgeMartin]
phoenix321 Offline


Registered: 09/26/11
Posts: 912
Loc: USA, FL
The Family Research Council has nothing to do with that Jesus fella. They are like Rick Santorum and other fanatics pushing Dominionism. Dominionism is the rule of their religious beliefs that is unconstitutional therefore making everything every soldier that has fought and died defending that constitution a waste. The Family Research Council is the American Taliban and nothing more. They advance this crap with fear of hell and use corporations to pay for it since they'll let them do anything they want.

We need Thomas Jefferson to come back and protect our righteous freedom-loving asses from the religious thought he despised and wanted eradicated.

Lady Gaga said it best about LGBT, "You were born this way, baby! God makes no mistakes."


Edited by phoenix321 (06/21/12 09:54 PM)
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#401252 - 06/21/12 11:27 PM Re: Family Reseach saying csa caused by homosexuals? [Re: GeorgeMartin]
GoodHope Offline
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Registered: 07/05/11
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As hereagain, the main thing is that this is dangerous for identifying predators. You are so busy looking at the gay guy that you are missing the married scout leader!!! What should concern people is that the vast majority of perps are heterosexual! Many are married. Most identify as religious. In other words, every person you interact with is a potential child molester. Arrrrrrrggggghhhhhh!
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