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#392141 - 04/04/12 07:09 AM Re: I'm goin to Hell [Re: traveler]
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Registered: 03/14/12
Posts: 48
Loc: Ohio
thank you Pero. And you to Lee. I thought to mention something but I guess I'm still A little timid.

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#392144 - 04/04/12 07:26 AM Re: I'm goin to Hell [Re: ctznken]
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Thanks Ken, please next time if I or somebody else hurt you by some nasty words there is no reason to feel timid in that case, just try to speak out. We all have to learn to be more supportive and in some cases even to fight for ourselves smile !
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#392173 - 04/04/12 11:55 AM Re: I'm goin to Hell [Re: peroperic2009]
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That's cool Pero. But, Guess what? A new survivors of incest anonymous meeting opened up a few weeks a go. It's pretty close and I'm working on getting a note from my shrink to release me from work so I can go to it. It's a 12 step group, so naturally we'll be talking about god. I'm really looking forward to it. i worked the 12 steps to recover from alcoholism, but still couldn't address what we talk about here in the meetings. I'm thinking God had to sober me up enough to prepare me to deal with all this, and now I'm ready.

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#392187 - 04/04/12 03:13 PM Re: I'm goin to Hell [Re: ctznken]
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That is wonderful news Ken, please let us know how is everything going, I'm really happy for you!
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#392331 - 04/05/12 04:26 PM Re: I'm goin to Hell [Re: ctznken]
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Originally Posted By: ctznken
...Avery, What your saying I've heard before and I agree with it. I just need a gental reminder. Sometimes I freak out like that and just need to vent. thanks for the nudge to put me back on track.


ctznken,

I am hoping you see this. I meant the above as a safe hug. I stated what I did as an extension of the grace I know our Savior has for us.

I have been encouraged by truly loving and joyous believers to not listen to the messages of "lies" given to us by those who abused us.

Words on a page like this can not match what the Spirit in us can receive.

Peace and grace,
Avery
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#392511 - 04/06/12 04:38 PM Re: I'm goin to Hell [Re: Avery46]
Vadrian Offline


Registered: 09/10/11
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Alice Miller has a book, [The Body Never Lies that is primarily centered around debunking that commandment that says you must forgive and honor your abusive parents--she shows how forgiveness often proves very destructive for victims of parental abuse. It's one of my favorites; you might want to check it out. You are most definitely not going to hell for your rightful feelings against the monster who preyed on you.

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#392524 - 04/06/12 07:09 PM Re: I'm goin to Hell [Re: Avery46]
ctznken Offline


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Thanks Avery

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#392526 - 04/06/12 07:19 PM Re: I'm goin to Hell [Re: Vadrian]
ctznken Offline


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Vadrian,

I'll put that on my list of things to read. Right now I'm reading "Victims no Longer". It's really being a good read, but I haven't come across a thing about forgiveness yet. You guys recommend the best stuff to read! I've looked at a lot of books, but never knew where to start or which author to trust.

Ken

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