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#389785 - 03/19/12 10:54 AM
can he remember from baby times? may trigger!!!!!!
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#389788 - 03/19/12 12:32 PM
Re: can he remember from baby times? may trigger!!!!!!
[Re: confusion4life]
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Hey Manuela, I don't believe that your husband could remember all those details when he was so young. However I'm not sure that he manipulates you either. The thing is that he is coming from totally different culture than you. I'm not at all familiar with his background and Indian culture but I'm coming from country where there are many nationalities and imposed totally different systems of believes. So I know how different things could be seen and described for couple of people with some cultural differences. If in his culture there are believes that child could remember things as early as three months than he speaks actually what he believes. Same could be about previous lives and many many other things. Cultural background is very important, you should try to learn as much as possible about that in try to better understand your husband. I'm interested to hear what would be outcome of that test. Nevertheless it is for me rarely seen that victim become abuser to his own child. And I really don't know nothing about incest in families. Certainly there is some play of roles and some rules must be same always. There must be some literature about it. As I can see in US there are many examples about it. I've just read some book that very shortly describes that in case of incest is actually happening betrayal of power. It is always case that abuser is adult who is in power against child (victim). Secrecy is other part of that relationship. Here is some article about incest but it is related to victim and not to preparator: http://www.mhcc.org.au/TICP/research-papers/Kluft-2011.pdfAnd there is article for offender's treatment: http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume3/j3_1_2.htmI hope your family is doing well! Pero
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#389792 - 03/19/12 01:04 PM
Re: can he remember from baby times? may trigger!!!!!!
[Re: Ken Singer, LCSW]
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Registered: 10/03/09
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Personally I wouldnt let him near the children and I would get the family with a trained T. ASAP.
"i am totally clear that he is dangerous" Your words from the other post.
" (not raped and not physically hurt, not forced or asked her to touch him)"
This sentance leave me so many questions for you. Protect yourself and your children.
Sorry you are dealing with this, but your story makes me very nervous for you and your children....it seems from what you write, everything about him is manipulative.
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#389885 - 03/20/12 02:17 AM
Re: can he remember from baby times? may trigger!!!!!!
[Re: peroperic2009]
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thanks pero, i will let you know
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#389886 - 03/20/12 02:23 AM
Re: can he remember from baby times? may trigger!!!!!!
[Re: Ken Singer, LCSW]
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hi ken,
thanks for your answer. i chose the test with the voice analyses because i read a lot about all the options and it seems that the polygraph ones are less reliable. but because you wrote this now, i will call the fbi and simply ask them. this voice analyses i found here (near italy - detectors are not usually used officially in europe but this certain one has been used in austrian courts when things got really complicated). the company which does the tests had this training year in israel (war crimes...)and say it is 98 % reliable. but i am still going to call the fbi in the usa somewhere now, so that i am sure i get the best result possible. besides the voice analyses test, i have sent him through a ct scan and a magnet resonance test and will get the results tomorrow, as i read that "child abusers" have differnt parts of the brain not the same like us (not abusive people). i just hold on to the last straw i can get....so that i dont do anything wrong to even him.
thanks ken, for this valuable information.
manuela
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#389887 - 03/20/12 02:40 AM
Re: can he remember from baby times? may trigger!!!!!!
[Re: Castle]
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#389917 - 03/20/12 09:16 AM
Re: can he remember from baby times? may trigger!!!!!!
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I don't want you to underestate the harm to your daughter just because there was no penetration. Severe psycholohical harm is done with nudity, without. With violence and without. Complicating matters further is that her perp is her father. Trust issues, self esteem, blurred boundaries etc. don't trust that your daughter seems fine. I pray she is, but the fall out from the abuse manifests itself in many different ways. My husband looks perfect. His mother described him as a perfect child. He strove to paper perfect because he felt less than because of the degradation of his abuse. She is bound to feel guilt and perceive herself as partly responsible for his legal troubles even though she is not a guilty party. My husband is a grown man now and still has difficulty not seeing himself as complicit. It still disturbs him to think of upsetting family dynamics. I don't think any victim should have to deal with their perp unless they are fully capable of understanding their interaction with him or her.
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#389921 - 03/20/12 10:02 AM
Re: can he remember from baby times? may trigger!!!!!!
[Re: GoodHope]
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thank you
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#389922 - 03/20/12 10:32 AM
Re: can he remember from baby times? may trigger!!!!!!
[Re: confusion4life]
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Dear Manuela, it seems that you have had everything under control, you didn't left anything uncovered. I'm very happy to hear how you've dealt with your independent daughter, you are very supportive to her, I admire that! You must be super-mother and super-women. I wish to be one day same parent as you are. Please let us know if there are in your neighborhood left some other women like you are  ? You are really awesome!!! Pero
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