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#380833 - 12/27/11 01:16 PM Re: "early bloomer" & CSA [Re: Still]
westchesterguy Offline
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Originally Posted By: Robbie Brown
....I've found very late onset to be very common among survivors.....


doubt i'll ever know the truth in my case. was on the verge of puberty at time of rape. all i know afterwards was that puberty seemed to last a long time - about seven years. even my body didn't mature and i didn't have to shave daily until early 20s. was that prolonged period the result of body/emotional/mental trauma...or was it just the path my genes were suppose to take?

what angers me more, to be honest, is that we all are asking these questions. a rational, sane, humane society (which we do not have) would openly discuss male sexuality from early age....and thus not only lift the veil of secrecy that clearly plagued our lives, but never leave boys and men feeling weird for simply wanting to know about our own bodies.

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#380995 - 12/29/11 09:50 PM Re: "early bloomer" & CSA [Re: westchesterguy]
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It seems evident that CSA (child sexual abuse) messes with our endocrine system. In most cases there seems to be a slowing of production of HGH (human growth hormone), the master-hormone of our body. The effect is that we mature later. It may be that in some cases this causes us to retain some childish features. It might even be that our body size is somewhat smaller than it would have been otherwise. This is hard to determine for sure since lots of CSA survivors also had incomplete nutrition as boys.

For "early bloomers", there must have been a different or additional causation. In cases where CSA seems to have caused in increase in rate of reaching puberty, there must have been an increase in production of male hormone, testosterone. Apparently, early sexual activity can in some cases cause premature stimulation of production of testosterone by the male reproductive glands.

Since testosterone is also made in other places in the body there must be another link. In other words, I don't know whether this (premature onset of puberty) was a direct effect or whether it was mediated through a mess-up of the pituitary gland (adenohypophysis).

The explanation may be that in the case of early CSA the HGH is inhibited and there is a delay in growth and puberty. Without early CSA but when CSA occurs close to puberty the result is the "early bloomer" effect.

I don't think this is in any of the medical literature.

Puffer





Edited by pufferfish (12/29/11 10:01 PM)

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#381063 - 12/30/11 09:18 PM Re: "early bloomer" & CSA [Re: pufferfish]
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interesting thoughts Puffer - I know I was able to ejaculate before the age of 9 - yet I hardly had any hair down there till I was well into high school - it makes me wonder if there really is something in the abuse that caused those 2 seemingly opposite puberty related traits to happen in me

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#382093 - 01/11/12 01:30 PM Re: "early bloomer" & CSA [Re: TJ jeff]
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OK

I've found documentation of the idea of CSA affecting growth, maturation and onset of puberty.

Originally Posted By: Psychological Trauma And the Developing Brain, page 109

Abuse and neglect also influence growth-related hormones and possibly sex hormones. For example, in cases of severe neglect, puberty is often delayed, and physical growth is stunted......


The book cited is:

Psychological Trauma And the Developing Brain, by Phyllis T. Stien and Joshua Kendall. 2004.

http://www.amazon.com/Psychological-Trauma-Developing-Brain-Neurologically/dp/0789017881/

Puffer


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#382096 - 01/11/12 01:56 PM Re: "early bloomer" & CSA [Re: TJ jeff]
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I experienced this same thing on my 11th birthday in fact but was not developed any other way until high school

Originally Posted By: TJ jeff
interesting thoughts Puffer - I know I was able to ejaculate before the age of 9 - yet I hardly had any hair down there till I was well into high school - it makes me wonder if there really is something in the abuse that caused those 2 seemingly opposite puberty related traits to happen in me


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#382130 - 01/11/12 09:08 PM Re: "early bloomer" & CSA [Re: F.A.]
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Don't know whether one is worse than the other to live with... I envied those who were less developed. I even trimmed my pubes to look less mature. And this was way before it was the cool thing to do. That just drew more focus to that area. Either way - early or late - we draw attention to ourselves by standing out from the crowd. Either way, we attract unwanted attention. Either way, we feel like freaks.

Lee

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#382177 - 01/12/12 10:41 AM Re: "early bloomer" & CSA [Re: traveler]
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I also found I had envied boys who were developed on the outside while I was developed early on the inside. I always thought I didn't measure up to them but found out years later it was a self image problem I was normal. I started to trim and shave also way back before anyone did it.

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#382223 - 01/12/12 07:38 PM Re: "early bloomer" & CSA [Re: F.A.]
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One thought leads to another - I think this is related: My trimming was an attempt to look younger or less mature or developed than I was. I thought it would deflect the interest of my peers. Makes me wonder if the current trend in favor of shaving is an effort to appeal to older pedophiles by making guys look pre-pubescent and under-age and therefore more attractive to that variety of pervert?

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sometimes in doubt, but never in despair;
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and though badly hurt at times, we are not destroyed.
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#382258 - 01/13/12 09:27 AM Re: "early bloomer" & CSA [Re: traveler]
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Loc: United States
My trimming was an attempt to seem larger and more physically mature as I always had an unrealistic body image. It is only recently that I do see my body and even my face in the correct timeline the present not the time line of the abuse.

I wanted to draw attention to me not defect it, I was that conditioned as to what my only self worth was.

I was shocked over ten years ago to learn that as young as JR high boys started to fully shave their bodies and no one can explain where this started or how.

I am sure in the adult industry if is done to satisfy some fetishes or preferences for people. I have heard the large majority of women prefer trimmed or shaven body and then you have the perp of CSA who will look for the youngest possible looking porn actors.


Originally Posted By: traveler
One thought leads to another - I think this is related: My trimming was an attempt to look younger or less mature or developed than I was. I thought it would deflect the interest of my peers. Makes me wonder if the current trend in favor of shaving is an effort to appeal to older pedophiles by making guys look pre-pubescent and under-age and therefore more attractive to that variety of pervert?


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F.A.

To be sick is to be fragmented. To be healed is to become whole, and to become whole one must be in harmony with family, friends, and nature" -Navajo-
Blog: http://csafresno.blogspot.com
Facebook: http://tinyurl.com/CSAFresno
My Story: http://tinyurl.com/78upvvu

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