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#379538 - 12/15/11 02:34 AM Boy Scouts' Secret "Perversion Files"
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Registered: 12/12/11
Posts: 175
Loc: Colorado, USA
Here's an article about the Boy Scouts' secret Perversion Files:
Six boxes of documents may reveal decades of sexual abuse of young boys by troop leaders.

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#379555 - 12/15/11 08:25 AM Re: Boy Scouts' Secret "Perversion Files" [Re: Undefeated]
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Registered: 10/21/11
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Loc: VA
Hmm, the BSA people who knew about these files called them the "Perversion Files"? Kind of tells the story, right there.

And the files were last presented in court in the 1980's? There have been plenty of molesting-Scoutmaster scandals since then. What were BSA saving the files for?

Sigh, is anyone surprised?

John


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#379583 - 12/15/11 01:38 PM Re: Boy Scouts' Secret "Perversion Files" [Re: unhappycamper]
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John,

It's my understanding from an ABC News video I saw on YouTube and this article, that the BSA "perversion files" were presented in court last year in Portland, OR for the first time ever. The man was molested in the 1980's.

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"The sexual abuse and exploitation of children is one of the most vicious crimes conceivable, a violation of mankind's most basic duty to protect the innocent." ~James T. Walsh

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#379602 - 12/15/11 04:39 PM Re: Boy Scouts' Secret "Perversion Files" [Re: Undefeated]
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The article says:

>> The only other time the documents are believed to have been presented at a trial was in the 1980s in Virginia. <<

So a lot of other cases have come and gone while the files just sat. I wonder if the current episode (which occurred in the 80's) is in the Perversion Files.....


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#379629 - 12/15/11 06:59 PM Re: Boy Scouts' Secret "Perversion Files" [Re: unhappycamper]
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I thought the BSA was making efforts to prevent this. That they had a problem, but they tried to fix it. And were more selective now about Troop Leaders, or whatever they are called.

I can't remember now.

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#379636 - 12/15/11 08:17 PM Re: Boy Scouts' Secret "Perversion Files" [Re: Disappointed]
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A friend had two sons in the Boy Scouts, and he said their unit had a "two deep" policy, i.e., they always had two adults present with the boys. Evidently not all BSA units do that.

John


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#379637 - 12/15/11 08:20 PM Re: Boy Scouts' Secret "Perversion Files" [Re: Disappointed]
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I think things are better now. However, perps are so clever, I don't think there is any way to prevent all CSA in an organization like that. I have read that the BSA now have things in the Scout Handbook, to make boys and parents more aware of how to prevent CSA. Also, I read that they have a rule that adults are never supposed to be alone with a boy. Difficult to enforce, I would think. Nothing was done to "fix" the problem for decades after they became aware of the problem. The "fixes" are just in the past few years.

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"The sexual abuse and exploitation of children is one of the most vicious crimes conceivable, a violation of mankind's most basic duty to protect the innocent." ~James T. Walsh

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#379638 - 12/15/11 08:22 PM Re: Boy Scouts' Secret "Perversion Files" [Re: unhappycamper]
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Originally Posted By: unhappycamper
The article says:

>> The only other time the documents are believed to have been presented at a trial was in the 1980s in Virginia. <<

So a lot of other cases have come and gone while the files just sat. I wonder if the current episode (which occurred in the 80's) is in the Perversion Files.....

Pathetic, huh? I had missed that in the article. ADD reader here. LOL smile

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"The sexual abuse and exploitation of children is one of the most vicious crimes conceivable, a violation of mankind's most basic duty to protect the innocent." ~James T. Walsh

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#379677 - 12/16/11 02:10 AM Re: Boy Scouts' Secret "Perversion Files" [Re: Undefeated]
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There was a legal proceeding in Sacramento, CA in which the boy scout records were subpoenaed. My source talked about the large amount of the records produced in the subpoena. I have a news clipping to this effect. It may have been as much as 10 years ago. If it's important to anybody, I'll try to find the reference in my files.

Puffer


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#379692 - 12/16/11 06:59 AM Re: Boy Scouts' Secret "Perversion Files" [Re: pufferfish]
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Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 21
Loc: Dayton, OH
This does not surprise me at all. The BSA is an arm of the Catholic Church. Not directly of course, but they still teach the same values, guilt and secrecy. I was an alter boy and a scout, I can say that there was not much done to protect me in either organization. The two deep policy would go a long way in preventing, but it seems so hard to find just one parent with the time and energy, let alone two.

Thanks for the link undefeated. Take care Brothers.


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