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#378441 - 12/06/11 12:51 PM Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero
Chase Eric Offline
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Hi - I suppose it's about time I did a quick intro - this and my post about my name and avatar pretty well sums me up here in the forum until/if I post my so-called story.

I don't know really the difference between introductions and stories - a casual introduction explains little, yet a full story seems overkill. Since I often find myself repeating the essentials of myself to others, I might as well use this as an opportunity to post an abridgement for reference.

When you get to the end of this intro, I think you'll know pretty much who I am and why I am here.

In a nutshell, I was the victim of a long-term serial abuse case that my therapist characterized as "unusually intense". It was at the hands of an older next-door neighborhood kid - I was his little "side kick". He molested several of the 8-9 year old girls in our neighborhood and I was one of the only boys (I was 12 when it started). Despite his ubiquitous interest in the little girls, his sessions with me were far more frequent. This continued through my teens, and I finally just "ran away" from it all and moved to California.

Among those who were caught in his web was my little sister. The dynamics of that went deep. I was the protector not only of her but of all the girls I was aware of. I did so by "taking the bullet", knowing he couldn't shoot them if his gun was empty. Better me than my sister, I thought. I was already tarnished - so if I was in for a penny, I guess I was in for a pound. I can't even start here to explain all the psycho-dynamics THAT caused me, but one of the results is that I still have a very tough time getting in touch with my anger. I had to be very cool and manipulative with him, even though I was the greater victim of his manipulations. I was smarter than he was, but he was older and stronger and had a tremendous urge that I was ill-equipped to decline. Yet I knew that if I took what he dished out, my sister and her friends wouldn't have to. Until the next day. And the next and the next...

Anger? It never seemed appropriate. I didn't understand what sex was when this started, and even when I knew instinctively it was wrong, I was too busy keeping a level head to save my sister. I couldn't afford to indulge in the rage that the parents in the neighborhood showed once they found out. Had they been just as calculating as I was, this guy would have been TREATED AND MANAGED instead of threatened with punishment (as if that would make him keep his richard in his pants). To this day, I rarely get angry about anything. Frustrated? Yes. Anger, however, has always proved to be a useless indulgence for me. How Spockian.

He was caught, and the situation was dealt with in true Penn State/Catholic Church/Syracuse University/Boy Scouts of America style: "We'll handle it ourselves" was the essential resolution promulgated by the "special committee" of three fathers (including my own). Years later, those fathers since gone, I discovered they apparently never knew I was a victim - nor my sister. There were so many others that they never looked at US. Maybe they could never have imagined that. There's more - much more - and I'll share my story, but the fact remains I was essentially thrown back in the lion's den to save the girls. I was perplexed as to why they insisted I "help him through this and keep him from the little girls," because at the time I thought they knew I was a victim as well. I was 13-14 at that point, and while the girls were saved, my abuse was to get a whole lot more secretive and frequent and intense. It felt like the whole neighborhood was in collusion with my molestation sessions. My dreams gave that away. I remember vividly a recurring nightmare in which my parents - and other adults - were standing in line behind my molester, waiting for their turn. Of course I never experienced incest or even the hint of that. But my shame was pretty intense. I would wake up and avoid my parents. I didn't trust my friends with respecting my boundaries. I was being made to feel things I didn't want to - and so I didn't even trust myself. Eventually I just ran away.

In California, I thought I might be gay but wasn't sure. I would fall in love equally with girls or guys. My first "coming out" experience ended with me in the bar alone with the bartender after hours. I was excited to be making decisions out from under the bit and bridle of my molester. *I* held the reins to my own life, now. But I didn't - not that night. In my one and only episode of ASA, I left the bar far wiser than when I went in. True to my nature from all the CSA, I convinced myself it was just a "bad date" and I deserved his anger and aggression without seeing it for what it was. Despite the trauma and violence, I "kidded" myself about it. It was my first first "gay" experience and my thinking was - hey - what else should I expect for being a despicable little gay boy?

So who is Eirik today? I am an educated professional, in the middle of my life (I hope) and generally happy and functional. I am also wounded and coming to terms with who I am. A lot was stolen from me - and I'll never know the man I might have become had my CSA not occurred. When I went through therapy ten years ago, I was so full of self-delusional constructs that I didn't even see that what happened to me was molestation (I went for grief therapy after my father died). I was having sex with a guy 3 years older than me under threat that he'd molest my sister if I said no! And when I said yes, he'd molest her anyways. But - hey - that was MY fault, right? It's amazing how much I managed to kid myself for so long. Unlearning those lies I told myself was an adventure into my soul that was as dark as it was fascinating.

One of the events that brought me here was an email from a girl who thanked me for being her "hero" all those years ago. I walked in on her and my perp, and told her to get out just as he was starting to undress her. And the funny thing is - I don't remember it. There were so many. But I can pretty much guarantee I took the bullet. She has a beautiful family today. She said if I didn't step in and rescue her, that family of hers may have never existed. I don't have a family. But I'm the dirty little hero.

Eirik

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#378444 - 12/06/11 01:31 PM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: Chase Eric]
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Aww, Eric the Brave, (my new viking name for you!)

You are NOT dirty. What you did saved many people from the molester, if only for that day. You were used by him & the neighborhood parents. You did nothing wrong, my friend. I am honored to know you.

Think of our idea of soldier heros. They may be used by their country's leaders to go & fight in senseless wars & have to do things there that they are not proud of. But that doesn't detract from them individually as heros. You are the same in my eyes.

Chet


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#378485 - 12/06/11 07:05 PM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: Chet]
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C E - I consider you not only "not dirty" and a "hero" - but a BIG man, at that. You did the only thing you knew to do at the time, and you are doing what you need to do now. My hat's off to you and I salute you for your courage and honesty. (I also identify with your instinct toward truthfulness. My user name is de>
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#378525 - 12/07/11 12:45 AM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: traveler]
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HI Chase Eric

Thanks for having the courage to share your story with us. It is something we can all identify with, the threats the secrecy, the violence and the confusion.
I see that you have been on MS for a while now, and I am glad that we are seeing more posts from you, this is a good sign and shows that you are beginning to heal.
I trust that you will post your full life story for us sometime soon. Writing mine, although through the healing process more has come out, Was an incredibly liberating experience for me, and really changed the way that I related to me.
I hope that writing yours will do the same for you.
I look forward to reading more of your posts and your insightful replies to others question.
As a wise man on this site said, "the more I talk about this the easier it gets"

It works If you work it, so work it your worth it.

Heal well
Martin

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#378528 - 12/07/11 01:01 AM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: whome]
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OMG Eric...O.M.G!

I'm not one to sprinkle sunshine and glitter all around anyone here. Sorry if disturbing stuff bothers me dude...but your self-proclamation as the "Dirty Hero" is WAY wrong, and it hurts to see you do that to yourself.

I consider it an honor to know you here. You are a clear thinker and the most talented word-smith I know. U'm always anxious (in a good way) to read your take on things here.

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#378530 - 12/07/11 01:20 AM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: Still]
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Chase,

I don't normally post on Intros. But this one I needed to post.

Everyone does what they feel they must. Some go above and beyond what they are required to do, by whatever code of ethics and morals they might possess. Others still go far beyond even that level.

I don't know if it will mean much, but the acts you think of yourself as dirty for, are in a much more vivid manner than any Hollywood "hero" - truthfully selfless. They show your true heart, bro, and your strength. It takes a hell of a person to knowingly put himself in line for something like this to protect others.

I at least do not see you as "dirty" - I see you as a selfless, strong, and loving individual with a passion for goodness. Nothing less could have allowed you to do what you did, nothing less could have allowed you to survive. And "taking the bullet" as you say, probably saved a LOT of children from suffering from the same heartache you so obviously carry.

If I could, I would have tried to protect the "hero" myself. I wasn't there, I couldn't do it, but I understand somewhat the taking of a bullet.. regardless of what form that bullet is in.

Don't discredit yourself, don't degrade yourself in that manner. Heal, recover, one foot in front of the other, and maybe someday, I hope you can look in a mirror and be proud of the fact that you, in "taking the bullet", prevented OTHERS from taking the same bullet.

This is a long post from me, on a subject that on one hand I can identify with, and on the other hand I probably have no right to speak on, but I had to speak up on this one.

I don't see you as dirty. I see you as bleeding... wounded. All true heroes ARE wounded, if only because in order to be a "hero" they have to care so deeply. But there's a lot of folks around here ready and waiting with the bandages to stop the bleeding, and I think if you keep at it, you might find you carry a lot of those bandages yourself.

This is a long enough post, and I've probably made a fool of myself in it, so I'll end it here. But one day I hope you can look at yourself and see what everyone here sees.

Courage, strength, and caring, bro. You have all of them.



Edited by TheTwoOfUs (12/07/11 01:22 AM)
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#378549 - 12/07/11 09:02 AM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: TheTwoOfUs]
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Eric

U r neither dirty nor little.

But u r a hero.

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#378556 - 12/07/11 10:12 AM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: Mountainous Buck]
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Eric.... I can't begin to tell you how honoured I am to have had the opportunity to get to know you my friend. Your courage, your insight, your understanding, your compassion and your strength are all so special to me. To me mate there is nothing dirty about you, although you are a true hero....

I am so glad that you have taken this step and shared some of your pain with us for in the sharing begins the healing. I love you as a brother and will be here for you any time you need me....

Stay strong....
Ian

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#378561 - 12/07/11 11:38 AM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: ozzie_guy]
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Chase Eric,

You're a good man. You were a good, generous boy. Thank you.

I wish you the recovery you deserve so richly,
D.

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#378613 - 12/07/11 09:32 PM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: Disappointed]
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Registered: 11/21/11
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Loc: Texas
Chase Eric,

All of the complimentary things that could be said about your character were addressed in the previous posts.

What you wrote is devastatingly tragic but in a strange way hopeful. Reading through some of these stories can char humanity: to know that there are people content to inflict such depravity on others is haunting but you are so decent and good.

Don’t view yourself in such a diminutive way, your selflessness is awe-inspiring.

-R


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#379268 - 12/13/11 12:00 PM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: Chase Eric]
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Loc: Colorado, USA
Eric,

What a remarkable story and I am very impressed that you have managed to move beyond this in so many areas of your life and career. I admire you.

In your response to my intro. you said you had not experienced the extent of abuse that I did. I disagree. Yours sounded just as bad as mine, but you have overcome in ways I haven't yet. As for ever having a career or decent job, it's too late for me, but hopefully I can become a little bit functional. You've done a remarkable job in that area.

Thanks for sharing your story. I know it's not easy to put this stuff out for everyone to see, but by doing so you are helping others. I respect and admire you for that.

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#379733 - 12/16/11 03:23 PM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: Undefeated]
Chase Eric Offline
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Each of you - Ozzie (Ian), Buck (Jaimie), Lee, Chet, Martin, Robbie, Matthew, American Girl, Disappointed, Undefeated, R - your support is so very much appreciated.

I'm still a bit shy about fully sharing - I do it in bits and pieces and am working on trusting here at MS - but I am learning quickly who my friends are and that support structure is so vitally important to me.

I just wanted to say thanks from the bottom of my heart.

I recently told a friend that I didn't really think myself a "hero" and although I appreciate you saying that (it makes me smile smile ), the fact is - and I know this - you would have done the same if it was YOUR situation. And you know it. And I do. But thank you just the same.

I did, however, state the truth with my adjectives. I was rather "little" - not the smallest but not quite as big as my school mates. And the "dirty" was just how I felt. But I was also an avid boy scout (no CSA issues there for me) - I actually read the entire scout manual, and remember clearly it talking about dirt - that were were two kinds. One was the dirt of the mind - not so good - bad thoughts, perversions, criminal intents, the whole nine yards. The good dirt you could always tell - it came off in the shower. I had plenty of the latter - and suspected much more of the former. Boy was I in the wrong organization...

Being here makes me reconsider that. Maybe I should have stuck around for Eagle after all...

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#379735 - 12/16/11 03:59 PM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: Chase Eric]
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Posts: 575
Loc: VA
Eric:

I incorporate by reference all the supportive comments of the others, above. And remember Shawn Hornbeck? He was the boy in Missouri who was kidnaped in 2002 by a molester and held as a sex slave until he was rescued by police 4 years later, not long after the perv kidnaped another younger boy. I recall hearing at the time that Shawn "enticed" the perv away from the younger boy, rather than allowing the perv to molest him. Does that sound shameful or dirty? Not!

John


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#379834 - 12/17/11 10:46 AM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: R1977]
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I just got here. Don't know if I have ever posted, but have been a member for a little while.

Dude, I cannot describe to you how awesome I think you are. You are not dirty, but you are an amazing hero.

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#381279 - 01/02/12 03:20 PM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: Jim1104]
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I thought I would update quickly - although this probably will deserve another post - that I brought in the new year deep in conversation with a co-survivor, finally discussing the secrets we haven't shared for so many years. We started talking about 10 minutes before the actual new year began, sitting in the living room with the TV blaring revelry and celebration in the other room. Our conversation closed out 2011 and lasted through the first two hours of the new year.

We were both sexually violated at the hands of the same next door neighbor, and we both grew up alone - each within ourselves and our shame. The sharing has been enormously cathartic for both of us. And while I have MS and my good friends here, I don't think she has such a support structure. So the ability to share has been particularly helpful to her.

To all my friends here, I offer my deepest thanks and best wishes. I don't know if I would have been able to have the conversation I did with without everyone here at MS. Everyone. If you are reading this now, that means YOU.



Edited by Chase Eric (01/03/12 12:33 AM)
Edit Reason: Due discretion and respect with covictim's identity
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#381281 - 01/02/12 05:00 PM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: Chase Eric]
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Beautiful!

Thanks for the update!

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#381294 - 01/02/12 07:32 PM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: Chase Eric]
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Thanks for the update. And hang onto each other. You both could very well prove to be a support system for each other.

Glad you were able to talk. And glad she was receptive to the conversation as well. You did good, Eric.

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#381301 - 01/02/12 08:15 PM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: TheTwoOfUs]
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#381303 - 01/02/12 08:30 PM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: just me]
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Glad your new year started off so well.

Jim

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#381941 - 01/10/12 02:10 AM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: R1977]
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Loc: Conway, Arkansas
great job Eric.

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#382054 - 01/10/12 11:52 PM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: zraver]
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Great honor to hear what you did. I commend you


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#383708 - 01/28/12 08:08 AM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: Chase Eric]
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Yes, you are a real hero. I know it, the girls you helped know it, and hopefully you really believe it.

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#458108 - 01/06/14 03:50 PM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: Chase Eric]
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Eirik the Great!

thank you for sharing this story of survival and strength.
your intro really does give good insight into your character.

you are a hero.
and the boy wonder avatar is awesome.

it is an amazing and inspiring history.

something you said struck home with me.
when i gave the abuser what he wanted, i did feel like i was manipulating him.
this gave me a false sense of power and guilt.
because i didn't really want to do it, i felt conflicted and complicit.
as an adult, i now see that i was being coerced into compliance.
the fact is, i only committed those acts
in order to "manipulate" and appease the abuser
in order to avoid assault,
and not because i wanted to.

it was self defense and desperation.
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#458146 - 01/07/14 07:03 AM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: Chase Eric]
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Wow, Erik.....I never knew. You are an amazing, impressive, and inspiring man. You're a real life hero.
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#458826 - 01/17/14 05:38 PM Re: Hi guys - I'm the dirty little hero [Re: WriterKeith]
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Keith, Victor -

I so appreciate your kind words of support. I thought this thread withered on the vine long ago; two years have passed since I started it.
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