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#376118 - 11/19/11 10:31 PM Re: Sandusky admits he 'horsed around,' claims innocen [Re: JustScott]
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Registered: 10/27/09
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Loc: Ohio
His BS is not being believed, plain and simple. There will be too much scrutiny on this one.

The FBI is looking into it with one official saying “It would be inconceivable that we couldn’t find grounds” to make this a federal case. Given that one boy was taken to Florida and Texas for bowl games and abused as well as a New York agency sending a total of five boys to him, I don't see it not being a federal case.

Local Texas authorities have already stated they want in. Haven't heard about Florida yet.

Dept. of Education is investigating violations by Penn State of campus crime reporting requirements.

NCAA is opening an investigation as well. If USC and Ohio State face sanctions for tshirts, agent calls and cell phones, what does child rape bring? Considering that NCAA bowl game perks were part of the perp package, claims of not football related ring a little hollow. Heck, I can accept cracks in the amateur athlete myth, but not this.

Second Mile is shutting down amidst an investigation of it, with one of the leading reporters on this saying the next bombshell may be this charity pimping boys to donors.

The hills are alive but that ain't the sound of music brother.





Edited by catfish86 (11/19/11 10:46 PM)
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#376171 - 11/20/11 08:55 AM Re: Sandusky admits he 'horsed around,' claims innocen [Re: catfish86]
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Thanks, Catfish. Please keep us posted. K.-


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#376218 - 11/20/11 03:02 PM Re: Sandusky admits he 'horsed around,' claims innocen [Re: ksequoia]
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Here's the full interview: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/11/15/jerry-sandusky-interviewed-by-bob-costas-video.html

In the final clip Sandusky is asked point blank if he's sexually attracted to young boys and he can't even give a straight answer. Unbelievable.

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#376223 - 11/20/11 04:11 PM Re: Sandusky admits he 'horsed around,' claims innocen [Re: catfish86]
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Originally Posted By: catfish86
I don't see it not being a federal case.


The Mann Act: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act While originally conceived in 1910 to prevent "white slavery" it is by far the best piece of federal legislation in existence to combat the domestic trafficking of children across state lines for the purposes of sexual exploitation. The FBI has employed it successfully to counter the trafficking of child prostitutes on many occasions and given that Sandusky is also suspected of taking children across state lines for the purposes of sex it could just as easily be applied in his case.

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#376666 - 11/24/11 02:43 AM Re: Sandusky admits he 'horsed around,' claims innocen [Re: jls]
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Registered: 12/29/07
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jls, this is what I have been suspecting with Penn State. That MAYBE there has been/is a Pedophilic dynamic going on within that instituion for some time now. I guess we will have to wait for the 'investigations' from various law enforcement agencies, before we will know, as a public.

Sandusky, certainly didn't seem so innocent doing that interview, thats for sure.


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#376728 - 11/24/11 11:55 PM Re: Sandusky admits he 'horsed around,' claims innocen [Re: JustScott]
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Through the years, I've been hearing accounts of vigilante justice as being common-place on CSA cases. I can understand that as parents will become rather motivated to set things straight in their world in an expeditious manner.

The firts one I heard was about 18 years ago when a father found his daughter walking home from a neighborhood miles and miles from home. He picked her up and, under his interrogation she blubbered about the Arcade owner and his violations.

The arcade owner will not be down for breakfast (old-school-Boston style). I've also know one friend who was afforded the 15 minutes and the rubber hose by the Boston Police.

I have old one friend who did time for beating the shite out of a 15 year-old for molesting his 5-yo son. He was sent to a bad-ass prison for "violent acts on a 15 yo." The guard and everyone ensured he was known as beating the kid in retribution of a sex assault. He did his time with a smile and was well cared-for. The Governor on Mass at the time did not want to pardon him from any time, even when $10,000 was offered to the keep peeps.

There MUST become a uniform and official way to handle these cases. The "system" is weak, evidensed by the ZERO responce triggered by the no-one boys...the throw-away boys...the dregs. It appears in this world that the dregs are nearly universally "free fucks."

I can't accept that...ever.

It becomes a bit difficult when someone like SandyBoy is SO exposed in the press and courts.

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#376755 - 11/25/11 08:33 AM Re: Sandusky admits he 'horsed around,' claims innocen [Re: Still]
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robbie,

i've heard many stories like those too....

however, i hope you are not planning on going down that road. i sincerely hope that you are not wanting to become a vigilante in the same way. i can DEFINITELY understand it, but i hope that it's nothing more than just what you posted.

you have wonderful kids and i would hate for you to lose them forever. first by being sent to prison and then by your ex using that to legally take what little time you have with them permanantly away.

please tell me that you are NOT planning on doing that and i just misunderstood your post....

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#376765 - 11/25/11 10:19 AM Re: Sandusky admits he 'horsed around,' claims innocen [Re: Obi]
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Registered: 12/29/07
Posts: 190
Loc: USA
I used to have that sort of 'revenge' thinking about my perps too but it was moreso a internal loathing of having to mentally be reminded of what they did to me/us when a child. I wanted some rest, and for the mental reminders etc to stop.

Over time, it tends to puzzle, more than anything else. But when I was younger, I wanted to remove them, terminate them. Not that such action(s) would solve anything, but it the delusional sort of thinking my thinking at the time, one would think 'once they are terminated, problem solved for me'. It's not good for the soul to have such thinking.

The one perp died of lung cancer, the other (his wife) is still alive, but barely. Let them rot in Hell I think to myself. I vigilantly watch for their further crimminal activity and or obituaries in the hometown papers. One day....they will be gone, or I will be.....

The other perp is still very much alive (for now). And let him be. One day he will meet his end (like we all must) and 'the sooner the better'. But I put in Creator's hands. He gave that scum life, so Creator can only be the one to take that person's life away. Not me.

I completely can relate to what Robbie is expressing in his post, but it is ultimately faulty thinking. Yet, it got me through the days of turmoil back way when.

It really doesn't solve the problem/issues going on for a victim/survivor nor really stop the trauma/PTSD etc. It would only make matters worse. If I followed through with making that 'faulty thinking' a reality.

Aside from that, I have had to realize that Sexual Offenders are human-beings (just like you and I) so they sometimes have spouses, children, mothers fathers grandparents and caring naive friends (as to their condiition/addiction/ complusions of sexually abusing children. Anyone can be a victim and so as a duality, it runs true that ANYONE can become an abuser, given the certain circumstances or whatever. Whether anyone on this site agrees with me or not, on this note is their own business.

Most parents don't imagine their child growing up to be murder's or Meth Addicts and most certainly they don't go around thinking their child is going to grow up to be a sexual predator either. I wonder what Sandusky's mother and father are thinking right now? Or his spouse? What must be going on in their minds over the Penn State allegations etc. How many 'masks' can a human being wear in a day, interacting with various different people?

Answer: As many as they want to. Predators do it all time, and that is why mothers and father' do not 'see' a victim's 'signs' or a prepetrator in their midst. That is how many Predators 'collect' so many victims before being caught (and arrested by the Judicial System).

"Rubbing them (offenders) out" would just continue the trauma for many people. More especially, the person whose 'taking out the garbage' also has possibly a spouse, child(ren), a mother/father, grandparents and caring friends too. How would it be for a person's loved ones to open up the Sunday paper and find out your now arrested for 'taking out the garbage' and they suddenly have to go to court week after week (or month after month) trying to explain their loved one's crimminal actions? It's easy to say to one's self, killing my perp(s) will save a child, and or solve a victims problems' in life that is simply 'faulty thinking'. It nine times out of ten, is more trouble than its worth. 'Let the garbage rot' and get the hell away from it as a person possibly can, is better for the spirit, mind and body. That's what I did, got away from those people, away from that environment. It didn't solve everything, but it made things in my mind a bit more managable mentally, over time.


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#376781 - 11/25/11 03:21 PM Re: Sandusky admits he 'horsed around,' claims innocen [Re: GeorgeMartin]
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Registered: 10/21/11
Posts: 616
Loc: VA
Originally Posted By: GeorgeMartin
'Let the garbage rot' and get the hell away from it as a person possibly can, is better for the spirit, mind and body.


And don't forget to let everyone know where the garbage is, so their kids don't step in it.

John


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