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#374651 - 11/08/11 01:09 PM Re: TRIGGER Warning *** Penn State AD Tim Curley [Re: GoodHope]
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At least two major Pennsylvania publish extensive editorials demanding the Penn State President Spanier and Coach Joe Paterno resign. PSU (Pedophile State University) put out a statement that coaches and players at todays normal weekly news conference would not answer questions about the scandal. Now that news conference has been cancelled. The more research I am doing on this into the facts, the more disgusted and convinced I am that Paterno and Spanier need to resign immediately.

A ninth victim has come forward. If you read the details of the grand jury report (warning, VERY TRIGGERING), he has a clear pattern of behavior that seems polished and practiced over a long period of time with many victims. It is hard to know how many victims are out there. Knowing what I do about the grooming habits of predators it is likely this guy was doing this since the late 70's.

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#374670 - 11/08/11 03:11 PM Re: TRIGGER Warning *** Penn State AD Tim Curley [Re: catfish86]
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The ny times is reporting that the board of trustees is highly upset and wants paterno out. Discussions about when and details are reportedly in process. It may be a matter of days.

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#374678 - 11/08/11 03:50 PM Re: TRIGGER Warning *** Penn State AD Tim Curley [Re: catfish86]
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Hope so. I'm seeing locally (I live only 45 minutes from the Penn State Campus) a move by some to push for a boycott for all PSU Sporting events.

Don't know if that will happen, I can hope though.


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#374714 - 11/08/11 10:12 PM Re: TRIGGER Warning *** Penn State AD Tim Curley [Re: JustScott]
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This was my note to my son at PSU....the kids up there are very twisted by it all. They hurt bad over what is now known of a place they love...

I love your passion, I love your loyalty, I love your values....hell I taught you those values right? No PSU did not create that monster. No, the pitiful lack of action by a group of leaders does not make PSU less a great place. But those who did too little need to be accountable, if only morally accountable, for not doing the right thing. PSU won't heal until those who did not step up are gone. And the men who were abused need PSU to support their well being. What happened up there can't be taken back. But you and all your very good and decent friends up there can make sure things are done today to help heal Happy Valley. Keep doing good stuff up there...doing good for others is something you and your sister do so well. That comes from your hearts. All my love and respect...Dad

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#374796 - 11/09/11 02:53 PM Re: TRIGGER Warning *** Penn State AD Tim Curley [Re: kb8715]
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#374812 - 11/09/11 05:56 PM Re: TRIGGER Warning *** Penn State AD Tim Curley [Re: pufferfish]
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Graduate Assistant Coach Mike McQueary must go. He allegedly walked in and saw this shit and walked out without doing a damned thing.
Athletic Director Tim Curly has to go. He apparently violated the law by not informing police of the information Paterno gave him.
Vice President Gary Shultz has to go for the same reasons.
PSU President Graham Spanier is getting shitcanned as well. Good riddance. He is responsible for the overall operation of the University. Ultimately, as the old saying goes, the buck stops here.

But going after JoePa is wrong. He followed the law, according to the Pennsylvania AG. He reported it up his chain of command. They fell down on the job, not Joe Paterno.

Brian

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#374816 - 11/09/11 07:01 PM Re: TRIGGER Warning *** Penn State AD Tim Curley [Re: LN3(SS)]
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Sorry I dont jump in on this kind of stuff till the facts are placed or made public. But have we forgotten that the Grad Student may have been abused himself? (we do not know any facts about him at all, other than he was a grad student and working for the university and the program, with that said he could have been afraid of losing his scholarship and or something else )

Please note I am not saying this is right, yes he should have followed up after telling someone he trusted JoePA, that would be the moral thing to do. But JoePa should have done the right moral thing also and followed up to protect the victim as well as the grad student.

I know with being a coach myself I have a code of ethics to my athletes and others who are not my athletes to protect them at any cost even if it means losing my job. Also, being a victim myself I am over protected of any abuse to any kid.

I think that We need to remember that Joe Paterno had moral obligations to the kids (victums), the staff, the university to step in and do more on this. Yes, he followed the law, but moral laws are something that one has to live with. Besides, it sounds like every one involved brushed it under the table like any matter like this happens...sexual abuse.

Just my thought...right or wrong.

Scot

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#374817 - 11/09/11 07:03 PM Re: TRIGGER Warning *** Penn State AD Tim Curley [Re: LN3(SS)]
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Morality and the law may differ. JoPa admits he did far too little.

The students are protesting their administration and both my kids are there. They are just 2 of many they say.

That's cause for hope.

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#374843 - 11/09/11 10:35 PM Re: TRIGGER Warning *** Penn State AD Tim Curley [Re: kb8715]
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I'm surprised if anyone is "surprised." In these situations, human nature shows its true colors. I saw this (lived this) first-hand when 4 jocks, with a fierce sence of entitlement had their way with me. The coaches and sport-heads of the town treated the "gifted jocks" as little gods in the making.

I'm experienceing it all over again here in my current town whereas The Lions Club allowed a habitual and registered baby-raper to operate a consessions truck at out child-intensice town fair. Not ONE town leader or Lions Club leader are even willing to discuss what broke-down in safety procedures for this evil shit to have access to the town's children for DECADES!!! All they will discuss with me is that "I'm the asshole for pointing any light on the Lions Club or the town leaders."

True human nature is being displayed here people. Let's try to make certain that the judges don't let the good-ole-boys get off light with this. I know that when I was at Syracuse, star jocks and coaches could get away with ANYTHING they wanted.

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#374864 - 11/10/11 09:00 AM Re: TRIGGER Warning *** Penn State AD Tim Curley [Re: Still]
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Talk about an institution that doesn't get it. The continued actions of the PSU administration, staff and students show how pervasive the culture that allowed this abuse is. Consider the timelines of recent events.

Joe Paterno announces he will retire at the end of the season, continuing to receive his adoration by fans and students. Makes the statement that the Board of Trustees need not discuss his fate now.

Pennsylvania Governor Tom Corbett, recently elected and the former state attorney general that started the investigation 2 years ago. As a state university, the Governor and 3 or 4 members of his cabinet have figurehead status as trustees on the PSU board of trustees but don't actually take the time to participate. After JoePa's announcement, Tom Corbett announced he and his members would be clearing their schedules to attend meetings Thursday and Friday. He stated the Board was failing to take decisive action in the wake of the scandal. He echoed the police head who stated that legal obligations had been met but moral obligations were failed.

PSU Board meets Wednesday night, with the threat of the Governor coming with his cabinet looming, unanimously deciding to fire Joe Paterno and accept the suddenly offered resignation of President Spanier (BTW, a trained family therapist).

PSU students take to the streets and riot over Joe Paterno being fired (he didn't have the guts to do the right thing and retire immediately). They overturn a media truck blaming the media for daring to call JoePa on the carpet for his actions.

Let's see: Grad Asst sees a boy being sodomized and doesn't stop it. He reports it but does nothing but accept promotions while the perp goes unpunished. JoePa does the same, never insisting anything be done. The VP in charge of campus police and AD do nothing but ask Sandusky not to take boys into the showers anymore. The pres signs off on that. Jump back to 1998 where two reports of Sandusky showering naked with boys and hugging them with an erection results in a police report but no charges and Sandusky told not to shower with boys. Then 2000 a temp janitor sees Sandusky give a BJ to a boy but never reports it for unknown reasons. After nine years of nothing being done, Sandusky walks the halls of PSU until finally an investigation by the state results in his arrest. After the governor forces JoePa and his cronies to be fired, the student body as a whole protests in support of JoePa.

All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

THE ENTIRE UNIVERSITY IS IMPLICIT IN THIS AND I HEREBY CONFER UPON PSU THE TITLE OF PEDOPHILE STATE UNIVERSITY.



Edited by catfish86 (11/10/11 09:18 AM)
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